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Connect the lamp in parallel with the E-Bus Relay COIL.
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Subject: | finding buried ac line |
I didn't see any message that answered the question, did I miss it?
The last time the power company "located" my service line for the fence
company, they totally missed it by 100 feet, and the fence company was about
to power drill right into the service line. Luckily I came home for lunch
and yelled to stop and had to argue with the crew chief "I don't care what
the power company said, I was personally here when the line was run 15 years
ago and its right along this line".
So I too would be interested in this off topic answer. Skip Simpson
In a message dated 5/14/2012 3:07:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
aeroelectric-list@matronics.com writes:
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1. 04:28 AM - Re: ATC on a bracket (Jay Hyde)
2. 04:28 AM - Intermittent no radio reception (bakerocb)
3. 06:21 AM - Re: Intermittent no radio reception (Bill Bradburry)
4. 09:38 AM - Re: Intermittent no radio reception (Ed Holyoke)
5. 09:40 AM - SSF-1 WIG WAG Flasher (Dick Wildman)
6. 11:08 AM - Finding a 220 volt buried line (DCS317@aol.com)
7. 11:36 AM - Re: Finding a 220 volt buried line (Dick Wildman)
8. 11:53 AM - Re: Finding a 220 volt buried line (JOHN TIPTON)
9. 11:58 AM - Re: Finding a 220 volt buried line (ROGER & JEAN CURTIS)
10. 12:01 PM - Re: Finding a 220 volt buried line (Bob McCallum)
11. 12:18 PM - Re: SSF-1 WIG WAG Flasher (Joe Dubner)
12. 12:42 PM - Re: Finding a 220 volt buried line (Michael Welch)
13. 12:55 PM - Re: Intermittent no radio reception (Bill Bradburry)
14. 02:26 PM - Re: Finding a 220 volt buried line (F. Tim Yoder)
15. 02:33 PM - Re: Intermittent no radio reception (David Lloyd)
16. 04:12 PM - Re: Intermittent no radio reception (Henador Titzoff)
17. 04:16 PM - Re: Finding a 220 volt buried line (Paul Millner)
18. 06:17 PM - Re: Re: SSF-1 WIG WAG Flasher (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
19. 06:29 PM - Re: Z-13/8 (fedico94@mchsi.com)
________________________________ Message 1
_____________________________________
Time: 04:28:37 AM PST US
From: "Jay Hyde" <jay@horriblehyde.com>
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: ATC on a bracket
That's a great idea- you could also cut away the little circular bits on
the
side and gang the fuses in a row...
Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert
L.
Nuckolls, III
Sent: 11 May 2012 09:48 PM
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: ATC on a bracket
<nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
At 02:19 PM 5/11/2012, you wrote:
Interesting! Looks like this could be a rather useful discovery.
Roger
Not all holders have that much free plastic and you'll
want to sand away the proposed mounting meat to make
sure no fuse wiring extends into the boss.
I considered just bonding this holder to the bracket but
wasn't sure about storage temperature extremes. Decided
to bond it to fixture and then re-enforce the bond
with screws.
Bob . . .
________________________________ Message 2 __________________
___________________
Time: 04:28:37 AM PST US
From: "bakerocb" <bakerocb@cox.net>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Intermittent no radio reception
5/13/2012
Hello Bill Bradbury, You wrote: "This makes me feel that I have some kind
of
intermittent problem with receive."
Are you absolutely certain that you don't have an intermittent wire
connection problem in your headset?
'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort
to
gather and understand knowledge."
============================================================
Time: 09:16:24 AM PST US
From: "Bill Bradburry" <bbradburry@bellsouth.net>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Intermittent no radio reception
I had a problem with my radio reception today and I am not certain where to
look for the cause. I was flying and the radio was working fine. I was
listening to Approach while I flew around and I could hear them fine. I
decide to land, so I dialed in ATIS. I didn't get anything. I noticed
that
I didn't have the "RX" showing on the radio. At the time I was about 25
miles away and 2K feet. I thought maybe I was too low and far away,
although I had been listening to Approach when I dialed in ATIS. As I got
closer, I climbed a little and suddenly I could hear them so I didn't think
much more about it. But I am pretty sure that I should have been able to
hear them because I could almost see the airport from where I was.
After I contacted approach and was handed off to Sanford tower, I didn't
hear from the tower for several minutes, then they asked me "how do you
hear?". I replied "Fine". I didn't think much more about that incident
either, but after I got home, I listened to the tower archives and I found
that the tower had asked me 4 times how do you hear and I only heard the
last one.
This makes me feel that I have some kind of intermittent problem with
receive. Everything else was working on the radio that I know of. It
seems
to be just an intermittent receive problem. Do you have any ideas where I
should look for something like that?
I have this type of antenna.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/antennasystems.php
It does not have a ground plane as it is a half wave antenna. The one I
have it the 5T which allows the coax to come out and be supported on the
side of the fuselage with mounting brackets. The antenna is inside the
fuselage just behind the rear bulkhead on the Lancair Legacy. It is mostly
vertical, but the ends (top and bottom) curve following the shape of the
fuselage and become horizontal for the last 4-5 inches. I think the
antenna
is something like 41-42 inches long. My plane is all fiberglass. The only
carbon fiber is in the horizontal stabilizer, leg fairings, and the wheel
pants. None of this carbon is closer than three feet or so to the antenna.
But what ever this is, it is intermittent. The receive and transmit seem
to
work fine until they don't work at all. I have heard others tell me that
my
transmissions were staticy from time to time, which is why I have been
trying to hear myself by listening to the recordings from ATC. If I had
not
done that I would not even have known that I missed 3 radio calls from ATC.
I was probably close to 5-6 miles out and heading directly toward the
airport when I was missing the calls.
Also, unrelated, I noticed that if I am on autopilot, (TruTrak Digiflight
II
GPSVG) that the autopilot goes haywire when the radio transmits. I have
heard of this problem on the internet but have not looked up what may be
causing it. Maybe you know off the top of your head??
Thanks for all you guys help!
Bill B
________________________________ Message 3
_____________________________________
Time: 06:21:43 AM PST US
From: "Bill Bradburry" <bbradburry@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Intermittent no radio reception
OC,
No I don't know if the headset is the problem, but it is a Lightspeed Mach
1
that I have had for less than a year. I could try and move wires around to
see if I can duplicate the problem.
B2
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bakerocb
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 7:28 AM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Intermittent no radio reception
5/13/2012
Hello Bill Bradbury, You wrote: "This makes me feel that I have some kind
of
intermittent problem with receive."
Are you absolutely certain that you don't have an intermittent wire
connection problem in your headset?
'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort
to
gather and understand knowledge."
============================================================
Time: 09:16:24 AM PST US
From: "Bill Bradburry" <bbradburry@bellsouth.net>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Intermittent no radio reception
I had a problem with my radio reception today and I am not certain where to
look for the cause. I was flying and the radio was working fine. I was
listening to Approach while I flew around and I could hear them fine. I
decide to land, so I dialed in ATIS. I didn't get anything. I noticed
that
I didn't have the "RX" showing on the radio. At the time I was about 25
miles away and 2K feet. I thought maybe I was too low and far away,
although I had been listening to Approach when I dialed in ATIS. As I got
closer, I climbed a little and suddenly I could hear them so I didn't think
much more about it. But I am pretty sure that I should have been able to
hear them because I could almost see the airport from where I was.
After I contacted approach and was handed off to Sanford tower, I didn't
hear from the tower for several minutes, then they asked me "how do you
hear?". I replied "Fine". I didn't think much more about that incident
either, but after I got home, I listened to the tower archives and I found
that the tower had asked me 4 times how do you hear and I only heard the
last one.
This makes me feel that I have some kind of intermittent problem with
receive. Everything else was working on the radio that I know of. It
seems
to be just an intermittent receive problem. Do you have any ideas where I
should look for something like that?
I have this type of antenna.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/antennasystems.php
It does not have a ground plane as it is a half wave antenna. The one I
have it the 5T which allows the coax to come out and be supported on the
side of the fuselage with mounting brackets. The antenna is inside the
fuselage just behind the rear bulkhead on the Lancair Legacy. It is mostly
vertical, but the ends (top and bottom) curve following the shape of the
fuselage and become horizontal for the last 4-5 inches. I think the
antenna
is something like 41-42 inches long. My plane is all fiberglass. The only
carbon fiber is in the horizontal stabilizer, leg fairings, and the wheel
pants. None of this carbon is closer than three feet or so to the antenna.
But what ever this is, it is intermittent. The receive and transmit seem
to
work fine until they don't work at all. I have heard others tell me that
my
transmissions were staticy from time to time, which is why I have been
trying to hear myself by listening to the recordings from ATC. If I had
not
done that I would not even have known that I missed 3 radio calls from ATC.
I was probably close to 5-6 miles out and heading directly toward the
airport when I was missing the calls.
Also, unrelated, I noticed that if I am on autopilot, (TruTrak Digiflight
II
GPSVG) that the autopilot goes haywire when the radio transmits. I have
heard of this problem on the internet but have not looked up what may be
causing it. Maybe you know off the top of your head??
Thanks for all you guys help!
Bill B
________________________________ Message 4
_____________________________________
Time: 09:38:18 AM PST US
From: Ed Holyoke <bicyclop@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Intermittent no radio reception
Squelch set too high?
Ed Holyoke
On 5/12/2012 9:15 AM, Bill Bradburry wrote:
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bill
Bradburry"<bbradburry@bellsouth.net>
>
> I had a problem with my radio reception today and I am not certain where
to
> look for the cause. I was flying and the radio was working fine. I was
> listening to Approach while I flew around and I could hear them fine. I
> decide to land, so I dialed in ATIS. I didn't get anything. I noticed
that
> I didn't have the "RX" showing on the radio. At the time I was about 25
> miles away and 2K feet. I thought maybe I was too low and far away,
> although I had been listening to Approach when I dialed in ATIS. As I
got
> closer, I climbed a little and suddenly I could hear them so I didn't
think
> much more about it. But I am pretty sure that I should have been able
to
> hear them because I could almost see the airport from where I was.
>
> After I contacted approach and was handed off to Sanford tower, I didn't
> hear from the tower for several minutes, then they asked me "how do you
> hear?". I replied "Fine". I didn't think much more about that incident
> either, but after I got home, I listened to the tower archives and I
found
> that the tower had asked me 4 times how do you hear and I only heard the
> last one.
>
> This makes me feel that I have some kind of intermittent problem with
> receive. Everything else was working on the radio that I know of. It
seems
> to be just an intermittent receive problem. Do you have any ideas where I
> should look for something like that?
>
> I have this type of antenna.
>
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/antennasystems.php
>
> It does not have a ground plane as it is a half wave antenna. The one I
> have it the 5T which allows the coax to come out and be supported on the
> side of the fuselage with mounting brackets. The antenna is inside the
> fuselage just behind the rear bulkhead on the Lancair Legacy. It is
mostly
> vertical, but the ends (top and bottom) curve following the shape of the
> fuselage and become horizontal for the last 4-5 inches. I think the
antenna
> is something like 41-42 inches long. My plane is all fiberglass. The
only
> carbon fiber is in the horizontal stabilizer, leg fairings, and the wheel
> pants. None of this carbon is closer than three feet or so to the
antenna.
>
> But what ever this is, it is intermittent. The receive and transmit
seem to
> work fine until they don't work at all. I have heard others tell me
that my
> transmissions were staticy from time to time, which is why I have been
> trying to hear myself by listening to the recordings from ATC. If I had
not
> done that I would not even have known that I missed 3 radio calls from
ATC.
> I was probably close to 5-6 miles out and heading directly toward the
> airport when I was missing the calls.
>
> Also, unrelated, I noticed that if I am on autopilot, (TruTrak
Digiflight II
> GPSVG) that the autopilot goes haywire when the radio transmits. I have
> heard of this problem on the internet but have not looked up what may be
> causing it. Maybe you know off the top of your head??
>
> Thanks for all you guys help!
>
> Bill B
>
>
________________________________ Message 5
_____________________________________
Time: 09:40:29 AM PST US
From: "Dick Wildman" <dick@minetfiber.com>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: SSF-1 WIG WAG Flasher
I built my RV using a B&C SSF-1 wig wag. Wired it per Aeroelectric
recommendations and it worked fine.
I changed one light to a Xenon lamp using a Philips Xen Drive XLD912
Standard power supply. This does not load the SSF-1 flasher as required
so my wig wag no longer works. I would like to keep the Xenon on one
side and the incandescent lamp on the other. I would be happy with
flashing one lamp if not both.
Any solutions?
Dick Wildman
________________________________ Message 6
_____________________________________
Time: 11:08:33 AM PST US
From: DCS317@aol.com
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Finding a 220 volt buried line
This is way off the topic, but how do I find a live (in 2" plastic
conduit) 220 volt cable buried 4' deep in the ground. I have no way of
shutting
off the power without calling the electric company (read $$$). I know
the
general location, but need to drill some 4' deep holes for a pole
building
and don't want the surprise of a short lifetime or have to splice cable.
What sort of gizmo can I construct? A short Google search shows cable
locators for greater than $600 and rentals for $90 (fifty miles away).
My apologies, but the group is so good at not wasting $$$ or EMF!
Do not archive!
Don
RV-8 pilot
________________________________ Message 7
_____________________________________
Time: 11:36:30 AM PST US
From: "Dick Wildman" <dick@minetfiber.com>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Finding a 220 volt buried line
Don;
Where I live the power company is more than happy to locate the
cable at no charge. It's much cheaper for them to tell you where the
cable is than to fix it after it has been damaged.
Call them and verify the $$$
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: DCS317@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 11:07 AM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Finding a 220 volt buried line
This is way off the topic, but how do I find a live (in 2" plastic
conduit) 220 volt cable buried 4' deep in the ground. I have no way of
shutting off the power without calling the electric company (read $$$).
I know the general location, but need to drill some 4' deep holes for a
pole building and don't want the surprise of a short lifetime or have to
splice cable. What sort of gizmo can I construct? A short Google
search shows cable locators for greater than $600 and rentals for $90
(fifty miles away).
My apologies, but the group is so good at not wasting $$$ or EMF!
Do not archive!
Don
RV-8 pilot
________________________________ Message 8
_____________________________________
Time: 11:53:28 AM PST US
From: "JOHN TIPTON" <jmtipton@btopenworld.com>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Finding a 220 volt buried line
I'm not sure what you require here: why do you need to shut off the
power - surely the power company knows where their cables are if they
are competent - if they don't they should be ashamed, and only too
willing to find them at no cost
----- Original Message -----
From: Dick Wildman
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Finding a 220 volt buried line
Don;
Where I live the power company is more than happy to locate the
cable at no charge. It's much cheaper for them to tell you where the
cable is than to fix it after it has been damaged.
Call them and verify the $$$
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: DCS317@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 11:07 AM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Finding a 220 volt buried line
This is way off the topic, but how do I find a live (in 2" plastic
conduit) 220 volt cable buried 4' deep in the ground. I have no way of
shutting off the power without calling the electric company (read $$$).
I know the general location, but need to drill some 4' deep holes for a
pole building and don't want the surprise of a short lifetime or have to
splice cable. What sort of gizmo can I construct? A short Google
search shows cable locators for greater than $600 and rentals for $90
(fifty miles away).
My apologies, but the group is so good at not wasting $$$ or EMF!
Do not archive!
Don
RV-8 pilot
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________________________________ Message 9
_____________________________________
Time: 11:58:37 AM PST US
From: "ROGER & JEAN CURTIS" <mrspudandcompany@verizon.net>
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Finding a 220 volt buried line
This is way off the topic, but how do I find a live (in 2" plastic conduit)
220 volt cable buried 4' deep in the ground. I have no way of shutting off
the power without calling the electric company (read $$$). I know the
general location, but need to drill some 4' deep holes for a pole building
and don't want the surprise of a short lifetime or have to splice cable.
What sort of gizmo can I construct? A short Google search shows cable
locators for greater than $600 and rentals for $90 (fifty miles away).
My apologies, but the group is so good at not wasting $$$ or EMF!
Do not archive!
Don
We have a system called "Dig Safe" which is a no charge service. They will
come and mark all of the buried utilities for you. Check that out.
Roger
________________________________ Message 10
____________________________________
Time: 12:01:04 PM PST US
From: Bob McCallum <robert.mccallum2@sympatico.ca>
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Finding a 220 volt buried line
Don;
Don't know where you're located, but here in Ontario (and in many other
Canadian provinces) it is a legal requirement to call "Ontario One Call" a
non-profit corporation before doing any kind of digging in the province.
They locate, telephone, cable, electric and gas lines free of charge before
any work which might damage underground utilities is done. Check with your
local municipality as they may have a similar service.
Bob McC
_____
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
DCS317@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 2:07 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Finding a 220 volt buried line
This is way off the topic, but how do I find a live (in 2" plastic conduit)
220 volt cable buried 4' deep in the ground. I have no way of shutting off
the power without calling the electric company (read $$$). I know the
general location, but need to drill some 4' deep holes for a pole building
and don't want the surprise of a short lifetime or have to splice cable.
What sort of gizmo can I construct? A short Google search shows cable
locators for greater than $600 and rentals for $90 (fifty miles away).
My apologies, but the group is so good at not wasting $$$ or EMF!
Do not archive!
Don
RV-8 pilot
________________________________ Message 11
____________________________________
Time: 12:18:57 PM PST US
From: Joe Dubner <jdubner@yahoo.com>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: SSF-1 WIG WAG Flasher
Dick,
If you truly would be satisfied with flashing one lamp and if you have
enough
power budget for the additional current the Xenon lamp requires and if you
don't
mind a little re-wiring, you could substitute a power resistor for the
incandescent lamp that was removed. The resistor will keep the flasher
happy.
Think of it as a non-illuminating lamp :-)
Assuming you're using a 55W lamp at 14V, you would need 3.6 ohms capable
of
dissipating 55 watts half of the time (50% duty cycle). A couple of
10-ohm,
20-watt resistors in parallel should be close enough to fool the flasher
and if
not, add a third one. FYI, those resistors will get very hot; don't put
then in
your lighting switch panel.
My wig-wag uses an electro-mechanical flasher too and this is what I plan
to do
when I upgrade my lights unless I spring for a new (solid-state) flasher.
But
that's not going to happen until after the airplane's flying <g>.
--
Joe
Independence, OR
http://www.mail2600.com/cgi-bin/webcam.cgi
Dick Wildman wrote:
> I built my RV using a B&C SSF-1 wig wag. Wired it per Aeroelectric
recommendations
and it worked fine.
>
> I changed one light to a Xenon lamp using a Philips Xen Drive XLD912
Standard
power supply. This does not load the SSF-1 flasher as required so my wig
wag
no longer works. I would like to keep the Xenon on one side and the
incandescent
lamp on the other. I would be happy with flashing one lamp if not both.
>
> Any solutions?
>
> Dick Wildman
________________________________ Message 12
____________________________________
Time: 12:42:06 PM PST US
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Finding a 220 volt buried line
From: Michael Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
Don,
Having spent the biggest part of my career in digging, including a few
hundred buried "whatevers",
the first thing you are required to do is called your local free utility
locating service. They are ALWAYS listed
in the front of the phone book!
I'm sorry to admit, but the last one I found my 2"PVC conduit 200A
service to my shop, it was with my backhoe. Funny thing
about 2" PVC conduit, and service entrance cable...it rips out like you
never knew it was there!!
The locating service can give you a very close approximation of the
utilities location DIRECTLY below their detector.
They will NOT, however, tell you how deep the line is! (although I have
had a couple of guys cheat and tell me anyway).
The reason they aren't suppose to give you a depth is, let's say he says
it's 48". You fire up the Case 580, dig down to 46"
and snag it! Maybe where YOU dug it WAS 46" (obviously, it was, since
you just tore it out).
The point is, the locator does not want the responsibility of
everybody using any machine to dig down 98.45% of the way.
Generally, they don't mention any depths.
I have used my backhoe many, many times to expose water lines,
electric lines, etc. The trick is have a spotter watching the hole
like a hawk!! You absolutely have to dig INLINE with the service,
because there is a much less likely way of tearing it up,
compared to digging transversely.
The BEST way, and easiest and safest, is to have your locator guy mark
the service on the ground. Then paralleling his
paint line about 24" off to the side, (and assuming nothing else is
located--like gas or phone lines, etc), dig a really big hole. Really
big!! Dig your hole
big enough to drop a car down into it, and extra deep. Then, after you
have your big, deep pit "next" to the service, carefully
dig in the direction of your electric service......letting all the dirt
fall down into your extra deep pit. The dirt will easily cut away and
fall
your direction. This is a hellava lot better then having to excavate
all the dirt with a pick and shovel.
Digging down 4' and finding a buried line is never easy, but that last
suggestion is the best I've found.
In some areas, you have to be careful about getting into pits. Many
people have been hurt or killed because the walls collapsed.
Mike Welch
On May 13, 2012, at 1:07 PM, DCS317@aol.com wrote:
> This is way off the topic, but how do I find a live (in 2" plastic
conduit) 220 volt cable buried 4' deep in the ground. I have no way of
shutting off the power without calling the electric company (read $$$).
I know the general location, but need to drill some 4' deep holes for a
pole building and don't want the surprise of a short lifetime or have to
splice cable. What sort of gizmo can I construct? A short Google
search shows cable locators for greater than $600 and rentals for $90
(fifty miles away).
>
> My apologies, but the group is so good at not wasting $$$ or EMF!
>
> Do not archive!
>
> Don
> RV-8 pilot
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 13
____________________________________
Time: 12:55:39 PM PST US
From: "Bill Bradburry" <bbradburry@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Intermittent no radio reception
Ed,
I don't think so. I didn't change it between the works and don't work
phases.??
Bill
_____
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Holyoke
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Intermittent no radio reception
Squelch set too high?
Ed Holyoke
On 5/12/2012 9:15 AM, Bill Bradburry wrote:
<mailto:bbradburry@bellsouth.net> <bbradburry@bellsouth.net>
I had a problem with my radio reception today and I am not certain where to
look for the cause. I was flying and the radio was working fine. I was
listening to Approach while I flew around and I could hear them fine. I
decide to land, so I dialed in ATIS. I didn't get anything. I noticed
that
I didn't have the "RX" showing on the radio. At the time I was about 25
miles away and 2K feet. I thought maybe I was too low and far away,
although I had been listening to Approach when I dialed in ATIS. As I got
closer, I climbed a little and suddenly I could hear them so I didn't think
much more about it. But I am pretty sure that I should have been able to
hear them because I could almost see the airport from where I was.
After I contacted approach and was handed off to Sanford tower, I didn't
hear from the tower for several minutes, then they asked me "how do you
hear?". I replied "Fine". I didn't think much more about that incident
either, but after I got home, I listened to the tower archives and I found
that the tower had asked me 4 times how do you hear and I only heard the
last one.
This makes me feel that I have some kind of intermittent problem with
receive. Everything else was working on the radio that I know of. It
seems
to be just an intermittent receive problem. Do you have any ideas where I
should look for something like that?
I have this type of antenna.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/antennasystems.php
It does not have a ground plane as it is a half wave antenna. The one I
have it the 5T which allows the coax to come out and be supported on the
side of the fuselage with mounting brackets. The antenna is inside the
fuselage just behind the rear bulkhead on the Lancair Legacy. It is mostly
vertical, but the ends (top and bottom) curve following the shape of the
fuselage and become horizontal for the last 4-5 inches. I think the
antenna
is something like 41-42 inches long. My plane is all fiberglass. The only
carbon fiber is in the horizontal stabilizer, leg fairings, and the wheel
pants. None of this carbon is closer than three feet or so to the antenna.
But what ever this is, it is intermittent. The receive and transmit seem
to
work fine until they don't work at all. I have heard others tell me that
my
transmissions were staticy from time to time, which is why I have been
trying to hear myself by listening to the recordings from ATC. If I had
not
done that I would not even have known that I missed 3 radio calls from ATC.
I was probably close to 5-6 miles out and heading directly toward the
airport when I was missing the calls.
Also, unrelated, I noticed that if I am on autopilot, (TruTrak Digiflight
II
GPSVG) that the autopilot goes haywire when the radio transmits. I have
heard of this problem on the internet but have not looked up what may be
causing it. Maybe you know off the top of your head??
Thanks for all you guys help!
Bill B
________________________________ Message 14
____________________________________
Time: 02:26:27 PM PST US
From: "F. Tim Yoder" <ftyoder@yoderbuilt.com>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Finding a 220 volt buried line
Call Blue Stake.
----- Original Message -----
From: DCS317@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 11:07 AM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Finding a 220 volt buried line
This is way off the topic, but how do I find a live (in 2" plastic
conduit) 220 volt cable buried 4' deep in the ground. I have no way of
shutting off the power without calling the electric company (read $$$).
I know the general location, but need to drill some 4' deep holes for a
pole building and don't want the surprise of a short lifetime or have to
splice cable. What sort of gizmo can I construct? A short Google
search shows cable locators for greater than $600 and rentals for $90
(fifty miles away).
My apologies, but the group is so good at not wasting $$$ or EMF!
Do not archive!
Don
RV-8 pilot
________________________________ Message 15
____________________________________
Time: 02:33:54 PM PST US
From: "David Lloyd" <skywagon@charter.net>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Intermittent no radio reception
Ed,
...good suggestion..as if that has never happened to all of us.
Especially when the plane comes out of some work at an avionics shop.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
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----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Holyoke
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Intermittent no radio reception
Squelch set too high?
Ed Holyoke
On 5/12/2012 9:15 AM, Bill Bradburry wrote:
<bbradburry@bellsouth.net>
I had a problem with my radio reception today and I am not certain where
to
look for the cause. I was flying and the radio was working fine. I was
listening to Approach while I flew around and I could hear them fine. I
decide to land, so I dialed in ATIS. I didn't get anything. I noticed
that
I didn't have the "RX" showing on the radio. At the time I was about 25
miles away and 2K feet. I thought maybe I was too low and far away,
although I had been listening to Approach when I dialed in ATIS. As I
got
closer, I climbed a little and suddenly I could hear them so I didn't
think
much more about it. But I am pretty sure that I should have been able
to
hear them because I could almost see the airport from where I was.
After I contacted approach and was handed off to Sanford tower, I didn't
hear from the tower for several minutes, then they asked me "how do you
hear?". I replied "Fine". I didn't think much more about that incident
either, but after I got home, I listened to the tower archives and I
found
that the tower had asked me 4 times how do you hear and I only heard the
last one.
This makes me feel that I have some kind of intermittent problem with
receive. Everything else was working on the radio that I know of. It
seems
to be just an intermittent receive problem. Do you have any ideas where
I
should look for something like that?
I have this type of antenna.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/antennasystems.php
It does not have a ground plane as it is a half wave antenna. The one I
have it the 5T which allows the coax to come out and be supported on the
side of the fuselage with mounting brackets. The antenna is inside the
fuselage just behind the rear bulkhead on the Lancair Legacy. It is
mostly
vertical, but the ends (top and bottom) curve following the shape of the
fuselage and become horizontal for the last 4-5 inches. I think the
antenna
is something like 41-42 inches long. My plane is all fiberglass. The
only
carbon fiber is in the horizontal stabilizer, leg fairings, and the
wheel
pants. None of this carbon is closer than three feet or so to the
antenna.
But what ever this is, it is intermittent. The receive and transmit
seem to
work fine until they don't work at all. I have heard others tell me
that my
transmissions were staticy from time to time, which is why I have been
trying to hear myself by listening to the recordings from ATC. If I had
not
done that I would not even have known that I missed 3 radio calls from
ATC.
I was probably close to 5-6 miles out and heading directly toward the
airport when I was missing the calls.
Also, unrelated, I noticed that if I am on autopilot, (TruTrak
Digiflight II
GPSVG) that the autopilot goes haywire when the radio transmits. I have
heard of this problem on the internet but have not looked up what may be
causing it. Maybe you know off the top of your head??
Thanks for all you guys help!
Bill B
________________________________ Message 16
____________________________________
Time: 04:12:54 PM PST US
From: Henador Titzoff <henador_titzoff@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Intermittent no radio reception
Bill,=0A=0AI would follow Ed's advice, because it's a very easy fix if that
's what's wrong. =C2-You never know who went into your hangar and decided
to make zoom zoom noises.=0A=C2-=0AHenador Titzoff=0A=0A=0A=0A__________
______________________=0A From: Bill Bradburry <bbradburry@bellsouth.net>
=0ATo: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 3:53
P
M=0ASubject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Intermittent no radio reception=0A =0A
=0A =0AEd,=0AI don=99t think so.=C2- I didn=99t change=0Ait b
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=0A=C2-=0A=0A________________________________=0A =0AFrom:owner-aeroelectr
ic-list-server@matronics.com=0A[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matro
nics.com] On Behalf Of Ed Holyoke=0ASent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 12:37=0APM
=0ATo: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re:
AeroElectric-List:=0A
Intermittent no radio reception=0A=C2-=0ASquelch set too high?=0A=0AEd Ho
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-=0AI had a problem with my radio reception today and I am not certain wh
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get anything.=C2- I noticed that=0AI didn't have the "RX" showing on the
radio.=C2- At the time I was about 25=0Amiles away and 2K feet.=C2- I
thought maybe I was too low and far away,=0Aalthough I had been listening t
o Approach when I dialed in ATIS.=C2- As I got=0Acloser, I climbed a litt
le and suddenly I could hear them so I didn't think=0Amuch more about it.
=C2- But I am pretty sure that I should have been able to=0Ahear them bec
ause I could almost see the airport from where I was.=0A=C2-=0AAfter I co
ntacted approach and was handed off to Sanford tower, I didn't=0Ahear from
the tower for several minutes, then they asked me "how do you=0Ahear?".=C2
- I replied "Fine".=C2- I didn't think much more about that incident=0A
either, but after I got home, I listened to the tower archives and I found
=0Athat the tower had asked me 4 times how do you hear and I only heard the
=0Alast one.=0A=C2-=0AThis makes me feel that I have some kind of intermi
ttent problem with=0Areceive.=C2- Everything else was working on the radi
o that I know of.=C2- It seems=0Ato be just an intermittent receive probl
em. Do you have any ideas where I=0Ashould look for something like
that?=0A
=C2-=0AI have this type of antenna.=0A=C2-=0Ahttp://www.aircraftspruce.
com/catalog/avpages/antennasystems.php=0A=C2-=0AIt does not have a ground
plane as it is a half wave antenna.=C2- The one I=0Ahave it the 5T which
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=0Ais something like 41-42 inches long.=C2- My plane is all fiberglass.
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et or so to the antenna.=0A=C2-=0ABut what ever this is, it is intermitte
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===============
________________________________ Message 17
____________________________________
Time: 04:16:46 PM PST US
From: Paul Millner <millner@me.com>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Finding a 220 volt buried line
Try dialing 811 for "underground services alert" (USA) and the utility
should come out and locate the cable for you!
Paul
On 5/13/2012 11:07 AM, DCS317@aol.com wrote:
> This is way off the topic, but how do I find a live (in 2" plastic
> conduit) 220 volt cable buried 4' deep in the ground. I have no way of
> shutting off the power without calling the electric company (read
> $$$). I know the general location, but need to drill some 4' deep
> holes for a pole building and don't want the surprise of a short
> lifetime or have to splice cable. What sort of gizmo can I
> construct? A short Google search shows cable locators for greater
> than $600 and rentals for $90 (fifty miles away).
> My apologies, but the group is so good at not wasting $$$ or EMF!
> Do not archive!
> Don
> RV-8 pilot
> *
>
>
> *
--
Please note my new email address!
millner@me.com
________________________________ Message 18
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Time: 06:17:21 PM PST US
From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: SSF-1 WIG WAG Flasher
At 02:17 PM 5/13/2012, you wrote:
Dick,
If you truly would be satisfied with flashing one lamp and if you
have enough power budget for the additional current the Xenon lamp
requires and if you don't mind a little re-wiring, you could
substitute a power resistor for the incandescent lamp that was
removed. The resistor will keep the flasher happy. Think of it as a
non-illuminating lamp :-)
Assuming you're using a 55W lamp at 14V, you would need 3.6 ohms
capable of dissipating 55 watts half of the time (50% duty cycle). A
couple of 10-ohm, 20-watt resistors in parallel should be close
enough to fool the flasher and if not, add a third one. FYI, those
resistors will get very hot; don't put then in your lighting switch panel.
My wig-wag uses an electro-mechanical flasher too and this is what I
plan to do when I upgrade my lights unless I spring for a new
(solid-state) flasher. But that's not going to happen until after
the airplane's flying <g>.
If your new HID lamp/pwr-supply combo will tolerate
flashing, then you can also consider adding some dummy-load
resistance in parallel with the wires to the HID
power supply.
We did a patch to the B&C Wig-Wag instructions to
accommodate LED lamps, same fix should work with your
HID too.
http://tinyurl.com/7d5u7ny
There's a solid state wig-wag controller development
program under way right now
http://tinyurl.com/77ungjg
. . . parts I had on order to finish the proof of concept
boards spiraled down the USPS black hole when an error
in zip code left my parts looking for a Medicine Lodge
address . . . in spite of the fact that the printed address
was correct. Lessons learned, USPS mailed with a confirmation
track is delivered by USPS bar code . . . Address mail to
me at 67104-0130 as the ONLY address and it will get here.
Have an error in the zip code then it doesn't matter what
the rest of the address says . . . anywho, that all got
sorted out and the parts should be here Tuesday.
In the mean time, you could put 75 ohms across the HID
lamp supply . . . I think the B&C electronic flasher
will get happy again.
Bob . . .
Bob . . .
________________________________ Message 19
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Time: 06:29:46 PM PST US
From: fedico94@mchsi.com
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Z-13/8
Note drawing with "main batter bus" connectoed to "endurance bus". An
E-bus Alternate
Feed Switch is shown on schematic. How can I place a small light bulb
to indicate that the E.bus switch is closed and conducting to the E-bus ?
This
is for visula reminder in low light conditions that be be present as an
emergency
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Subject: | Re: finding buried ac line |
Morning, Skip...
First, as a reminder to all when replying to messages received in
the daily digest format, try not to send in the entire digest, as
you did. I don't know how it works in other email programs, but
in Thunderbird it's easy without doing any deleting...just
highlight the portion of the message you want to reply to, then
when you hit the reply button, it only uses the highlighted
text...as I have done here.
Anyway...the same thing happened to my father about 15 years ago
when he was digging a ditch to install a water curtain. The
local power company marked the location of his underground
service, but the backhoe still broke the main line, even though
he was digging 10 feet from it!
However, they apparently have better sensing equipment now, as
when Dad's neighbor expanded his pond a few years ago the power
company got their lines marked exactly. I've also seen a couple
here in my neighborhood, and at a friend's house across town,
where they got it located perfectly...in two cases, to actually
dig up the line to replace it. When they dug down, they were
right on top of what they wanted to repair.
So, they have gotten better over the years, and I definitely
would call the power company, gas company, cable company,
whatever you have buried in your yard (and don't forget the
septic system, if you have one!) before digging or drilling. At
least if you hit their service after they mark it in the wrong
place, you can blame them!
Harley Dixon
Long EZ N28EZ...IT'S ALIVE!
Powered up the newly wired, all electric instrument panel
yesterday... and it all worked! Next...reinstall the engine.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
On 5/14/2012 7:30 AM, CardinalNSB@aol.com wrote:
> I didn't see any message that answered the question, did I miss it?
> The last time the power company "located" my service line for
> the fence company, they totally missed it by 100 feet, and the
> fence company was about to power drill right into the service
> line. Luckily I came home for lunch and yelled to stop and had
> to argue with the crew chief "I don't care what the power
> company said, I was personally here when the line was run 15
> years ago and its right along this line".
> So I too would be interested in this off topic answer. Skip
> Simpson
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Subject: | finding buried ac line |
I didn't see any message that answered the question, did I miss it?
Yup, you missed it!!
Short answer is, call your utility and ask about the free buried utilities
locater service. They may not be right, occasionally, but most of the time
they hit it. In most cases it is the law that you must contact them before
digging or be liable for damages to buried lines.
Roger
Do not archive
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Subject: | Intermittent no radio reception |
5/14/2012
Hello Bill, You wrote: "I could try and move wires around to
see if I can duplicate the problem."
Or carry along another headset known to be good and plug it right while you
are having the problem.
I had a "reception" problem with an older model Lightspeed headset that I
fussed with for a time. Finally identified the headset as the cause. Sent
the headset off to Lightspeed. They fixed it and updated it both at no cost
to me -- great customer service.
'OC' Baker Says: "The best investment we can make is the time and effort to
gather and understand knowledge."
=====================================================
Time: 06:21:43 AM PST US
From: "Bill Bradburry" <bbradburry@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Intermittent no radio reception
OC,
No I don't know if the headset is the problem, but it is a Lightspeed Mach 1
that I have had for less than a year. I could try and move wires around to
see if I can duplicate the problem.
B2
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At 08:29 PM 5/13/2012, you wrote:
>
>Note drawing with "main batter bus" connectoed to "endurance
>bus". An E-bus Alternate Feed Switch is shown on schematic. How
>can I place a small light bulb to indicate that the E.bus switch is
>closed and conducting to the E-bus ? This is for visula reminder in
>low light conditions that be be present as an emergency
Not sure what the concern is. The whole idea for
the endurance bus is to keep an electrical system
failure (alternator or battery contactor) from
becoming an emergency. If the e-bus alternate feed
switch is closed, then items powered from the e-bus
remain active irrespective of conditions for the
main bus. If you've not used the e-bus alternate feed
for any particular flight, it will already be off when
you park the airplane. If you DID need the alternate
feed path for comfortable termination of flight, then
you not only need to remember to turn the alternate
feed switch off, you you have some failure issues to
repair as well.
If the alternate feed switch is inadvertently left
in the ON position after shutdown, then items feed
from the e-bus will remain powered . . . it seems
this fact would serve the same function as adding a
light to annunciate the switch position.
Bob . . .
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Subject: | Re: finding buried ac line |
I've used a oscilloscope to find buried 220 volt lines down a couple of
feet. Don't remember details but believe I just used a coil. Might have
been an AM antenna out of an old radio, the kind with a coil wrapped on
a ferrite rod directly connected to an old oscilloscope.
For drain pipes I've pushed in a solid length of fence wire and
connected it to a bench top homemade signal generator putting out around
15.7 khz. Then I used an scope as above but with a similar wound
antenna that I had made for picking up (and syncing) to crt tube TV
scanning frequencies of around 15.7 khz. THose scanning frequencies were
extremely accurate for national tv networks and could be used for fine
tuning crystal oscillators. This might have been the same antenna that
I used for the AC line location.
Perhaps I was lucky but I was surprised at how simple it was to find ac
lines with a sensitive receiver or scope on my own property.
Ken
do not archive
On 14/05/2012 7:30 AM, CardinalNSB@aol.com wrote:
> I didn't see any message that answered the question, did I miss it?
> The last time the power company "located" my service line for the fence
> company, they totally missed it by 100 feet, and the fence company was
> about to power drill right into the service line. Luckily I came home
> for lunch and yelled to stop and had to argue with the crew chief "I
> don't care what the power company said, I was personally here when the
> line was run 15 years ago and its right along this line".
> So I too would be interested in this off topic answer. Skip Simpson
> In a message dated 5/14/2012 3:07:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> aeroelectric-list@matronics.com writes:
>
>
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Subject: | Re: finding buried ac line |
My local sparky located our 240v underground mains cable to within a few cm both
laterally and depth. He has a cable locating device. He charged a very modest
fee (can't remember how much).
So try calling a couple of friendly neighbourhood electricians. If they don't have
the gear, they may know someone who does.
--------
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