---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 07/23/12: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:24 AM - Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 07/22/12 (D L Josephson) 2. 07:03 AM - Re: Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 07/22/12 (Richard Girard) 3. 11:33 AM - portable gps (bob noffs) 4. 02:10 PM - Re: portable gps (Jan) 5. 02:13 PM - Re: portable gps (Charlie E) 6. 02:45 PM - Re: portable gps (JOHN TIPTON) 7. 03:58 PM - Re: portable gps (bob noffs) 8. 04:27 PM - Resistor for LR3C-14 and CML LED indicator for low voltage (pmnewlon) 9. 07:28 PM - For Sale: Garmin GPSMAP 195 (Steve Thomas) 10. 08:00 PM - Re: For Sale: Garmin GPSMAP 195 (Dennis Roche) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:24:36 AM PST US From: D L Josephson Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 07/22/12 On 7/23/12 1:57 AM, AeroElectric-List Digest Server wrote: > For some reason, God only knows why he did half the things he did to this > airplane, the previous owner of an E-LSA cut the antenna for a 121.5 > Ameri-King ELT down to 14.3" (measured from the base, he bent it, too). > What's the rule on a TSO'd unit in an experimental plane? Can I just solder > an extension on it to bring it back to the correct length or does it have > to be as the manufacturer made it? I don't own it, but I have to sign off > the annual. The TSO (required to meet "approved" under FAR 91.207) generally includes the antenna supplied by the ELT mfr, so any modification would void the TSO. You'd have to check with Ameri-King. Bending the antenna is probably not a problem. It would not be a good idea to solder on an extension, mainly because many ELT antennas are physically shorter than quarter-wave due to the presence of loading coils, and you too would be modifying TSO'd equipment without approval. As the inspector, are you equipped to measure the radiated output in accordance with 91.207 (d)(4)? ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:03:37 AM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 07/22/12 From: Richard Girard DL, No, I'm not, I can update the batteries and all the other requirements. Rick On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 7:21 AM, D L Josephson wrote: > dlj04@josephson.com> > > On 7/23/12 1:57 AM, AeroElectric-List Digest Server wrote: > >> For some reason, God only knows why he did half the things he did to this >> airplane, the previous owner of an E-LSA cut the antenna for a 121.5 >> Ameri-King ELT down to 14.3" (measured from the base, he bent it, too). >> What's the rule on a TSO'd unit in an experimental plane? Can I just >> solder >> an extension on it to bring it back to the correct length or does it have >> to be as the manufacturer made it? I don't own it, but I have to sign off >> the annual. >> > The TSO (required to meet "approved" under FAR 91.207) generally includes > the antenna supplied by the ELT mfr, so any modification would void the > TSO. You'd have to check with Ameri-King. Bending the antenna is probably > not a problem. It would not be a good idea to solder on an extension, > mainly because many ELT antennas are physically shorter than quarter-wave > due to the presence of loading coils, and you too would be modifying TSO'd > equipment without approval. As the inspector, are you equipped to measure > the radiated output in accordance with 91.207 (d)(4)? > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:33:43 AM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: portable gps From: bob noffs hi all, can anyone recommend a SMALL handheld gps that either has an aviation database or could accept a download? this would be my backup. i have a garmin 195 ''handheld'' that is as big as a house. i mean something as small as an ''e- trex'', or even the size of the old garmin 12's. bob noffs ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:10:46 PM PST US From: Jan Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: portable gps What about Garmin Pilot III ? All the best Jan On 23 Jul 2012, at 14:29, bob noffs wrote: > hi all, can anyone recommend a SMALL handheld gps that either has an aviat ion database or could accept a download? this would be my backup. i have a g armin 195 ''handheld'' that is as big as a house. i mean something as small a s an ''e- trex'', or even the size of the old garmin 12's. > bob noffs > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:13:38 PM PST US From: Charlie E Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: portable gps On 07/23/2012 01:29 PM, bob noffs wrote: > hi all, can anyone recommend a SMALL handheld gps that either has an > aviation database or could accept a download? this would be my backup. > i have a garmin 195 ''handheld'' that is as big as a house. i mean > something as small as an ''e- trex'', or even the size of the old > garmin 12's. > bob noffs > *The Garmin III Pilot is really small, if you can find one on the used market. I've got one, but I'm not sure I'm ready to let it go. Charlie * ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:45:43 PM PST US From: "JOHN TIPTON" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: portable gps How about this: http://www.airspaceaware.com/products/devices/awaregps/ Best regards John ----- Original Message ----- From: Jan To: Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:09 AM Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: portable gps What about Garmin Pilot III ? All the best Jan On 23 Jul 2012, at 14:29, bob noffs wrote: hi all, can anyone recommend a SMALL handheld gps that either has an aviation database or could accept a download? this would be my backup. i have a garmin 195 ''handheld'' that is as big as a house. i mean something as small as an ''e- trex'', or even the size of the old garmin 12's. bob noffs 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:58:09 PM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: portable gps From: bob noffs i checked out the pilot 3 and it looks like just what i need. now to find one. bob noffs On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 4:44 PM, JOHN TIPTON wrote: > ** > How about this: http://www.airspaceaware.com/products/devices/awaregps/ > > Best regards > > John > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Jan > *To:* > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:09 AM > *Subject:* Re: AeroElectric-List: portable gps > > What about Garmin Pilot III ? > > All the best > > Jan > > On 23 Jul 2012, at 14:29, bob noffs wrote: > > hi all, can anyone recommend a SMALL handheld gps that either has an > aviation database or could accept a download? this would be my backup. i > have a garmin 195 ''handheld'' that is as big as a house. i mean something > as small as an ''e- trex'', or even the size of the old garmin 12's. > bob noffs > > * > > * > > * > > 3D============================================ > href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List"'>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List > 3D============================================ > href='3D"http://forums.matronics.com"'>http://forums.matronics.com > 3D============================================ > href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/contribution"'>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > 3D============================================ > * > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:27:01 PM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Resistor for LR3C-14 and CML LED indicator for low voltage From: "pmnewlon" http://www.cml-it.com/DEBD/index.php?p=34&a=19030252&b=1725&c=62#Galerie I have installed several yellow and red CML LEDs for various indicator functions. These devices have built-in internal resistors - just hook the appropriate + and - connectors and you are good to go. Almost. As with so many others, my LED is constantly 'on' and flashes when voltage drops - as designed. I found Bob's sketch for attaching an LED to the LR3C-14 using two 470 ohm resistors. http://aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Schematics/LR3_LV_Led_1.jpg What I don't know and could use some direction on, is since my LED module already has built in resistor, which resistor do I add to the circuit to keep the LED from illuminating at all times? Or do I still use both? Same values? I have not found a schematic for the CML device anyplace to help shed any light on the subject. Thanks! Phil Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379028#379028 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:28:02 PM PST US From: Steve Thomas Subject: AeroElectric-List: For Sale: Garmin GPSMAP 195 I've had this unit in the shelf for a while and am not using it. It is in very good condition, with a carry case, yoke mount and 12v power cable, serial cable for database downloads, external antenna. Listed on ebay as item number 170882659634. Steve Thomas ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:00:03 PM PST US From: Dennis Roche Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: For Sale: Garmin GPSMAP 195 What is your price,I have a Cub with no electrical. How long will the batte ry last ? I need something soon.=0A=0A=0AFrom: Steve Thomas =0ATo: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Monday, July 23, 2012 7: 26 PM=0ASubject: AeroElectric-List: For Sale: Garmin GPSMAP 195=0A=0A--> Ae roElectric-List message posted by: Steve Thomas =0A=0AI'v e had this unit in the- shelf for a while and am not using it.- It is i n very good condition, with a carry case, yoke mount and 12v power cable, s erial cable for database downloads, external antenna.- Listed on ebay as item number 170882659634.- =0A=0A=0ASteve Thomas=0A______________________ =============== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message aeroelectric-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.