---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 07/24/12: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:37 AM - Re: For Sale: Garmin GPSMAP 195 (Steve Thomas) 2. 06:51 AM - Re: Resistor for LR3C-14 and CML LED indicator for low voltage (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 3. 08:16 AM - Re: Unapproved ELT antenna? (D L Josephson) 4. 09:34 AM - Re: Re: Unapproved ELT antenna? (Kelly McMullen) 5. 10:03 AM - AW: For Sale: Garmin GPSMAP 195 (A. Buess - Aviatik) 6. 11:36 AM - Re: portable gps (jan) 7. 02:22 PM - Re: Re: Unapproved ELT antenna? (Richard Girard) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:37:58 AM PST US From: Steve Thomas Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: For Sale: Garmin GPSMAP 195 See Ebay item number 170882659634. Or, click here: http://tinyurl.com/cn5hrve Steve Thomas ________________________________________________________________________ On Jul 23, 2012, at 7:59 PM, Dennis Roche wrote: > What is your price,I have a Cub with no electrical. How long will the battery last ? I need something soon. > > From: Steve Thomas > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 7:26 PM > Subject: AeroElectric-List: For Sale: Garmin GPSMAP 195 > > > I've had this unit in the shelf for a while and am not using it. It is in very good condition, with a carry case, yoke mount and 12v power cable, serial cable for database downloads, external antenna. Listed on ebay as item number 170882659634. > > > Steve Thomas > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:51:36 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Resistor for LR3C-14 and CML LED indicator for low voltage >What I don't know and could use some direction on, is since my LED >module already has built in resistor, which resistor do I add to the >circuit to keep the LED from illuminating at all times? Or do I >still use both? Same values? I have not found a schematic for the >CML device anyplace to help shed any light on the subject. Just wire a 470 ohm resistor in parallel with your lamp fixture. It's not terribly important were that resistor is located . . . it can be inside across the LED or across the LED-resistor string inside your fixture. Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:16:23 AM PST US From: D L Josephson Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Unapproved ELT antenna? I wrote earlier >> The TSO (required to meet "approved" under FAR 91.207) generally includes >> the antenna supplied by the ELT mfr, so any modification would void the >> TSO. You'd have to check with Ameri-King. Bending the antenna is probably >> not a problem. It would not be a good idea to solder on an extension, >> mainly because many ELT antennas are physically shorter than quarter-wave >> due to the presence of loading coils, and you too would be modifying TSO'd >> equipment without approval. As the inspector, are you equipped to measure >> the radiated output in accordance with 91.207 (d)(4)? Sorry, there should have been more detail. The point is that the FAR's don't specify how to measure radiated output. Maybe it's in the manufacturer's instructions, maybe not, in which case you're on your own... different shops use different methods like using a portable radio with no antenna or a remote receiver to see whether there is "sufficient signal radiated from its antenna." But check with Ameri-King, the shortened antenna may be factory length. David ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:34:53 AM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Unapproved ELT antenna? The requirements are in the TSO. The FARs require compliance with the TSO. TSO approval is on the transmitter with antenna, which prevents substitution with anything but identical antenna or one the manufacturer has determined to perform identically. On 7/24/2012 8:14 AM, D L Josephson wrote: > Sorry, there should have been more detail. The point is that the FAR's > don't specify how to measure radiated output. Maybe it's in the > manufacturer's instructions, maybe not, in which case you're on your > own... different shops use different methods like using a portable > radio with no antenna or a remote receiver to see whether there is > "sufficient signal radiated from its antenna." > But check with Ameri-King, the shortened antenna may be factory length. > > David ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:03:39 AM PST US From: "A. Buess - Aviatik" Subject: AW: AeroElectric-List: For Sale: Garmin GPSMAP 195 Hi Dennis, I have a Garmin 195 that I don't need any more. I is driven by a standard AA battery pack. With all accessories. Contact me off-line at ykibuess@ bluewin.ch if you are interested. Alfred Von: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von Dennis Roche Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. Juli 2012 04:59 An: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com Betreff: Re: AeroElectric-List: For Sale: Garmin GPSMAP 195 What is your price,I have a Cub with no electrical. How long will the battery last ? I need something soon. From: Steve Thomas < lists@stevet.net> aeroelectric-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 7:26 PM Subject: AeroElectric-List: For Sale: Garmin GPSMAP 195 I've had this unit in the shelf for a while and am not using it. It is in very good condition, with a carry case, yoke mount and 12v power cable, serial cable for database downloads, external antenna. Listed on ebay as item number 170882659634. Steve Thomas ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:36:35 AM PST US From: jan Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: portable gps Bob, If you post a "I Want to Buy" over at the Vans forum you might be able to find one that someone are selling - That is how I got mine a few months back - Two people contact me who had one for sale. You can still get update for the map from Garmin - a bit hard to find on the Garmin site ... You need to open a free account first .. Also make sure you get a RS232 cable so you can upload the map update. Jan _____ From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob noffs Sent: 23 July 2012 23:57 Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: portable gps i checked out the pilot 3 and it looks like just what i need. now to find one. bob noffs On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 4:44 PM, JOHN TIPTON > wrote: How about this: http://www.airspaceaware.com/products/devices/awaregps/ Best regards John ----- Original Message ----- From: Jan Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:09 AM Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: portable gps What about Garmin Pilot III ? All the best Jan On 23 Jul 2012, at 14:29, bob noffs > wrote: hi all, can anyone recommend a SMALL handheld gps that either has an aviation database or could accept a download? this would be my backup. i have a garmin 195 ''handheld'' that is as big as a house. i mean something as small as an ''e- trex'', or even the size of the old garmin 12's. bob noffs 3D=========================3 D=================== href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List "'>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List 3D=========================3 D=================== href='3D"http://forums.matronics.com "'>http://forums.matronics.com 3D=========================3 D=================== href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/contribution "'>http://www.matronics.com/contribution 3D=========================3 D=================== ist" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution

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If you post a “I Want to Buy” over at the Vans forum you might be able to find one that someone are selling – That is how I got mine a few months back – Two people contact me who had one for sale.

 

You can still get update for the map from Garmin – a bit hard to find on the Garmin site … You need to open a free account first .. Also make sure you get a RS232 cable so you can upload the map update.

 

Jan

 


From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob noffs
Sent: 23 July 2012 23:57
To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: portable gps

 

i checked out the pilot 3 and it looks like just what i need. now to find one.

 bob noffs

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 4:44 PM, JOHN TIPTON <jmtipton@btopenworld.com> wrote:

 

Best regards

 

John

----- Original Message -----

From: Jan

Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:09 AM

Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: portable gps

 

What about Garmin Pilot III ?  

All the best

 

Jan


On 23 Jul 2012, at 14:29, bob noffs <icubob@gmail.com> wrote:

hi all, can anyone recommend a SMALL handheld gps that either has an aviation database or could accept a download? this would be my backup. i have a garmin 195 ''handheld'' that is as big as a house. i mean something as small as an ''e- trex'', or even the size of the old garmin 12's.

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________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:22:49 PM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Unapproved ELT antenna? From: Richard Girard David, The antenna has definitely been hacked off. I have an identical Ameri-King ELT on my personal airplane and it is about 7 to 8 inches longer and has a ball end, no saw marks of ragged shrink tubing. I called the Wichita FSDO and got the answer. I can replace the antenna for the owner with an unaltered correct one, or I can get a ferry permit to fly it home to him and he can deal with it. On the sufficient signal strength, the rule is basically there to require a check to see that the antenna is indeed radiating, i.e. connected properly to the radio. Get your hand held, tune to 121.5, activate the ELT, see that you get a signal on the hand held, and your done. The inspector was kind enough to suggest a local shop that might have an antenna, Bevan Rabell, and the good folks there are trying to help. Thanks Guys, Rick Girard do not archive On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > kellym@aviating.com> > > The requirements are in the TSO. The FARs require compliance with the TSO. > TSO approval is on the transmitter with antenna, which prevents > substitution with anything but identical antenna or one the manufacturer > has determined to perform identically. > > > On 7/24/2012 8:14 AM, D L Josephson wrote: > >> Sorry, there should have been more detail. The point is that the FAR's >> don't specify how to measure radiated output. Maybe it's in the >> manufacturer's instructions, maybe not, in which case you're on your own... >> different shops use different methods like using a portable radio with no >> antenna or a remote receiver to see whether there is "sufficient signal >> radiated from its antenna." >> But check with Ameri-King, the shortened antenna may be factory length. >> >> David >> > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message aeroelectric-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.