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Wed 08/29/12


Total Messages Posted: 23



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     1. 09:36 AM - Re: Fw: Fw: 1948 Cartoon (joe motis)
     2. 09:55 AM - Re: Fw: Fw: 1948 Cartoon (William Greenley)
     3. 10:12 AM - Re: Fw: Fw: 1948 Cartoon (Robert Reed)
     4. 10:14 AM - Re: Fw: Fw: 1948 Cartoon (Ralph Finch)
     5. 10:15 AM - Re: Fw: Fw: 1948 Cartoon (joe motis)
     6. 10:34 AM - Re: Fw: Fw: 1948 Cartoon (Robert Reed)
     7. 10:41 AM - Re: KX155 flag problem (Roger & Jean Curtis)
     8. 11:24 AM - Re: Fw: Fw: 1948 Cartoon (Neal George)
     9. 11:37 AM - Re: KX155 flag problem (Peter Mather)
    10. 12:26 PM - Re: KX155 flag problem (joe motis)
    11. 12:29 PM - Re: KX155 flag problem (joe motis)
    12. 12:49 PM - Re: Fw: Fw: 1948 Cartoon (joe motis)
    13. 01:55 PM - Re: Fw: Fw: 1948 Cartoon (Ralph Finch)
    14. 02:21 PM - Re: Fw: Fw: 1948 Cartoon (rayj)
    15. 02:45 PM - Re: Fw: Fw: 1948 Cartoon (Christopher Cee Stone)
    16. 03:11 PM - Re: Fw: Fw: 1948 Cartoon (William Greenley)
    17. 03:38 PM - Re: Fw: Fw: 1948 Cartoon (rayj)
    18. 04:07 PM - Re: Ground loops (stearman456)
    19. 04:16 PM - Re: Re: Ground loops (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
    20. 04:23 PM - Charger needed to revive 18 aH Lead Acid Batteries (rparigoris)
    21. 04:31 PM - Re: Ground loops (stearman456)
    22. 07:27 PM - Re: Fw: Fw: 1948 Cartoon (Robert Buls)
    23. 07:35 PM - External Antenna for Garmin Aera 500 GPS? (stearman456)
 
 
 


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    Time: 09:36:26 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Fw: 1948 Cartoon
    From: joe motis <joemotis@gmail.com>
    I assume that you feel that garbage like your post and and your God references are appropriate here, let me be one of the many to tell you that they are not. Also, protocol on the list encourages that you also write on your post "do not archive" as to not fill the servers with needless postings. Plus, as an added bonus, your post is not aviation related so it should not be here in the first place. Finally, "Obummer'? What are you 12?? Joe Motis Cherokee 180 No Archive On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:16 AM, David <dlposey-atlanta@att.net> wrote: > > > ANYONE KNOW OBUMMER=92S E-MAIL ADDRESS? > > > *In God We Trust!* > > ** > > > ------------------------------ > > **** > > **** > > *Pretty amazing, for sure...*check this one out.**** > > > **** > > **** > > It's incredible that this 1948 cartoon has come this close to depicting > our current day situation. It's worth your time.**** > > **** > > 1948 cartoon > *EVERY PERSON IN THE USA SHOULD SEE THIS!* > *JUST THINK, THIS WAS FORECASTED 62 YEARS AGO!* > *What can a cartoon, produced in 1948, teach us today, that's of any > value? You'd be very surprised! Pay close attention! Keep in mind as you > watch this that it was done in '1948'. Keep telling yourself that as you > view it.* > *This is **one of the best** I have ever seen and it was produced in > 1948. This should be viewed by every AMERICAN. Click on 1948Cartoon belo w - > ** **this cartoon is timeless and is just as true today as** **it was in > 1948!* **** > > **** > > * **1948 Cartoon*<http://nationaljuggernaut.blogspot.com/2009/09/this-c artoon-seemed-far-fetched-in-1948.html> > **** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > > -- **** > > *Anna***** > > *" > "Choose you this day whom ye shall serve...As for me & my house, we will > serve the Lord." ***** > > Joshua 24:15**** > > **** > > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > >


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    Time: 09:55:22 AM PST US
    From: "William Greenley" <wgreenley@gmail.com>
    Subject: Fwd: Fw: 1948 Cartoon
    While I agree that the cartoon post was off topic, I am puzzled by the angry reaction of some posters. If not for the freedom advocated by this cartoon, none of us would be able to pursue the hobby of aviation. No totalitarian government would every allow a bunch of homebuilt airplanes to be flying around virtually anytime and anywhere we wish to fly. I used to live in a country where it took me three years and many shared bottles of Fanta just to get a ham license. As for a pilot's license, that was only for members of their air force or presidential guard. We need to be thankful for the wonderful freedoms that we have. "endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights" Bill Greenley Do not archive


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    Time: 10:12:08 AM PST US
    From: Robert Reed <robertr237@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Fw: 1948 Cartoon
    The irony of all this is that had it not been for all the follow-up posts =0Acomplaining about the original off-topic posting I would have just ignor ed the =0Apost and not even looked at the cartoon.=C2- But since so many couldn't just let it =0Apass=C2-and had to follow-up with condemnation of he original post and poster I had =0Ato see what upset so many net-nannies .=C2- BFD!=C2- If you don't like the post use the =0Adelete key and mov e on.=C2- It takes far less time and effort to just ignore the =0Aoff-top ic post than to whine about it and spend time complaining.=C2- =0A=0A=0AA nd YES, I know that this post is also doing just what I commented on but I do =0Atend to agree with Bill, it is the very freedoms that we have that al low us to =0Aenjoy our favorite hobby.=C2- =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A____________ ____________________=0AFrom: William Greenley <wgreenley@gmail.com>=0ATo: a eroelectric-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wed, August 29, 2012 11:56:32 AM=0AS ubject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Fwd: Fw: 1948 Cartoon=0A=0A=0AWhile I agree that the cartoon post was off topic, I am puzzled by the angry =0Areaction of some posters. If not for the freedom advocated by this cartoon, none =0A of us would be able to pursue the hobby of aviation. No totalitarian govern ment =0Awould every allow a bunch of homebuilt airplanes to be flying aroun d virtually =0Aanytime and anywhere we wish to fly. I used to live in a cou ntry where it took =0Ame three years and many shared bottles of Fanta just to get a ham license. As =0Afor a pilot=99s license, that was only fo r members of their air force or =0Apresidential guard. We need to be thankf ul for the wonderful freedoms that we =0Ahave.=0A=C2-=0A=9Cendowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights=9D=0A=C2-=0ABill G ============ =0A


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    Time: 10:14:04 AM PST US
    From: Ralph Finch <ralphmariafinch@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Fw: 1948 Cartoon
    The problem with idiots spouting some extreme position on politics, religion, etc is not so much the original post, which can be deleted with a silent curse at the poster. No, it's the seemingly endless follow-up posts--like this one--condemning or excusing the first post. It's just one reason of several *I miss the old Usenet*, which allowed one to kill threads and all follow-ups on the first post.


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    Time: 10:15:39 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Fw: 1948 Cartoon
    From: joe motis <joemotis@gmail.com>
    I have a KX 155 VOR that the to/from flag has ceased to function. Would someone please tell me how cartoons and Bible quotes are going to help me repair it? I must be doing something wrong. Joe Motis Cherokee 180 Do not archive On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 9:54 AM, William Greenley <wgreenley@gmail.com>wrot e: > While I agree that the cartoon post was off topic, I am puzzled by the > angry reaction of some posters. If not for the freedom advocated by this > cartoon, none of us would be able to pursue the hobby of aviation. No > totalitarian government would every allow a bunch of homebuilt airplanes to > be flying around virtually anytime and anywhere we wish to fly. I used to > live in a country where it took me three years and many shared bottles of > Fanta just to get a ham license. As for a pilot=92s license, that was onl y > for members of their air force or presidential guard. We need to be > thankful for the wonderful freedoms that we have.**** > > ** ** > > =93endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights=94**** > > ** ** > > Bill Greenley**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *Do not archive* > > * * > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > >


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    Time: 10:34:33 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Fw: 1948 Cartoon
    From: Robert Reed <robertr237@att.net>
    Try asking with an on topic subject. That would be a good start. Bob Reed Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, joe motis <joemotis@gmail.com> wrote: > I have a KX 155 VOR that the to/from flag has ceased to function. Would so meone please tell me how cartoons and Bible quotes are going to help me repa ir it? > I must be doing something wrong. > > Joe Motis > > Cherokee 180 > > Do not archive > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 9:54 AM, William Greenley <wgreenley@gmail.com> wr ote: > While I agree that the cartoon post was off topic, I am puzzled by the ang ry reaction of some posters. If not for the freedom advocated by this cartoo n, none of us would be able to pursue the hobby of aviation. No totalitarian government would every allow a bunch of homebuilt airplanes to be flying ar ound virtually anytime and anywhere we wish to fly. I used to live in a coun try where it took me three years and many shared bottles of Fanta just to ge t a ham license. As for a pilot=99s license, that was only for members of their air force or presidential guard. We need to be thankful for the wo nderful freedoms that we have. > > > > =9Cendowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights=9D > > > > Bill Greenley > > > > > > Do not archive > > > > ist" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-Lis t > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 10:41:53 AM PST US
    From: "Roger & Jean Curtis" <mrspudandcompany@verizon.net>
    Subject: KX155 flag problem
    I have a KX 155 VOR that the to/from flag has ceased to function. Joe Motis Do you have some particulars on your flag function problem? Does it seem to work OK except for the flag? Do you get the station ID? I am sure someone on the list can help troubleshoot it if we have a good explanation of the problem. Roger


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    Time: 11:24:34 AM PST US
    From: "Neal George" <neal.george@gmail.com>
    Subject: Fwd: Fw: 1948 Cartoon
    An excellent question, Joe! You've exercised your freedom to engage in un-coerced commerce and own property (an airplane and its associated equipment). Now that some of the equipment has ceased to function correctly, you have the freedom to make a choice - repair it or not. More freedom: If you choose to repair the unit, do you possess the skills to complete the work yourself or not? If not, you have another opportunity to engage in un-coerced commerce: the freedom to choose whom you will hire to make the repair. So, exercise your freedom and choose an avionics repair shop. Then engage the proprietor in contract negotiations - you each have the freedom to accept, refuse or rebut the others proposal. When you reach an agreement on the work to be accomplished and the price, you have a contract. If the work is accomplished in accordance with the contract, you have a duty to complete the contract and pay the man. If the work is not accomplished in accordance with the contract, you have the freedom to seek satisfaction. Believe it or not, it is relevant. Neal George From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of joe motis I have a KX 155 VOR that the to/from flag has ceased to function. Would someone please tell me how cartoons and Bible quotes are going to help me repair it? I must be doing something wrong. Joe Motis Cherokee 180 Do not archive


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    Time: 11:37:55 AM PST US
    From: "Peter Mather" <peter@mather.com>
    Subject: KX155 flag problem
    The KX155 doesn't know about the To/From flag all it creates is a VOR/LOC composite signal- the to/from is generated in the display, KI208/9 or KI 203/4 or if you have one in a KN72 which can then drive an HIS or KI202/KI206 If you post more details of your full set up it would be better rgds Peter From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger & Jean Curtis Sent: 29 August 2012 18:41 Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: KX155 flag problem I have a KX 155 VOR that the to/from flag has ceased to function. Joe Motis Do you have some particulars on your flag function problem? Does it seem to work OK except for the flag? Do you get the station ID? I am sure someone on the list can help troubleshoot it if we have a good explanation of the problem. Roger


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    Time: 12:26:29 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: KX155 flag problem
    From: joe motis <joemotis@gmail.com>
    Hi, thanks for the response. I pick up the station identifier loud and clear and the needle acts normal. It does not seem to be a common problem. Not sure which end to start on, the radio or the instrument. Reseating all connections has been suggested but has not been implemented. Regards Joe Motis Cherokee 180 On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Roger & Jean Curtis < mrspudandcompany@verizon.net> wrote: > > > I have a KX 155 VOR that the to/from flag has ceased to function. > > > Joe Motis > > > Do you have some particulars on your flag function problem? Does it seem > to work OK except for the flag? Do you get the station ID? > > > I am sure someone on the list can help troubleshoot it if we have a good > explanation of the problem. > > > Roger > > * * > > * * > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 12:29:33 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: KX155 flag problem
    From: joe motis <joemotis@gmail.com>
    Thanks Peter. Airplane is in the hangar and I am at work. Will gather details and post in the future. Regards Joe Motis Cherokee 180 no archive On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Peter Mather <peter@mather.com> wrote: > The KX155 doesn't know about the To/From flag all it creates is a VOR/LOC > composite signal- the to/from is generated in the display, KI208/9 or KI > 203/4 or if you have one in a KN72 which can then drive an HIS or > KI202/KI206**** > > ** ** > > If you post more details of your full set up it would be better**** > > ** ** > > rgds**** > > ** ** > > Peter**** > > *From:* owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Roger & Jean > Curtis > *Sent:* 29 August 2012 18:41 > *To:* aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RE: AeroElectric-List: KX155 flag problem**** > > ** ** > > **** > > I have a KX 155 VOR that the to/from flag has ceased to function. **** > > **** > > **** > > Joe Motis**** > > **** > > **** > > Do you have some particulars on your flag function problem? Does it seem > to work OK except for the flag? Do you get the station ID?**** > > **** > > I am sure someone on the list can help troubleshoot it if we have a good > explanation of the problem.**** > > **** > > Roger**** > > * ***** > > * ***** > > * * > > * * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > ** > > * * > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 12:49:58 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Fw: 1948 Cartoon
    From: joe motis <joemotis@gmail.com>
    "Believe it or not, it is relevant" Relevance is not the issue. It is threadjacking in an Aviation forum that is used for learning and sharing knowledge about aircraft electrical systems. Aviation forums are an inappropriate place for your religious preference or cartoons. On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Neal George <neal.george@gmail.com> wrote : > An excellent question, Joe!**** > > ** ** > > You=92ve exercised your freedom to engage in un-coerced commerce and own > property (an airplane and its associated equipment). Now that some of th e > equipment has ceased to function correctly, you have the freedom to make a > choice ' repair it or not. **** > > ** ** > > More freedom: If you choose to repair the unit, do you possess the skill s > to complete the work yourself or not? If not, you have another opportuni ty > to engage in un-coerced commerce: the freedom to choose whom you will hi re > to make the repair. **** > > ** ** > > So, exercise your freedom and choose an avionics repair shop. Then engag e > the proprietor in contract negotiations ' you each have the freedom to > accept, refuse or rebut the others proposal. When you reach an agreement > on the work to be accomplished and the price, you have a contract. If th e > work is accomplished in accordance with the contract, you have a duty to > complete the contract and pay the man. If the work is not accomplished i n > accordance with the contract, you have the freedom to seek satisfaction.* * > ** > > ** ** > > Believe it or not, it is relevant.**** > > ** ** > > Neal George **** > > ** ** > > *From:* owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *joe motis > > I have a KX 155 VOR that the to/from flag has ceased to function. Would > someone please tell me how cartoons and Bible quotes are going to help me > repair it?**** > > I must be doing something wrong.**** > > ** ** > > Joe Motis**** > > Cherokee 180**** > > Do not archive**** > > * > =========== > =========== =========== =========== > > * > >


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    Time: 01:55:00 PM PST US
    From: Ralph Finch <ralphmariafinch@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Fw: 1948 Cartoon
    Could someone tell me where Jesus preached in the bible that the free enterprise or capitalist system is the most godly? RF On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Neal George <neal.george@gmail.com> wrote : > An excellent question, Joe!**** > > ** ** > > You=92ve exercised your freedom to engage in un-coerced commerce and own > property (an airplane and its associated equipment). Now that some of th e > equipment has ceased to function correctly, you have the freedom to make a > choice ' repair it or not. **** > > ** ** > > More freedom: If you choose to repair the unit, do you possess the skill s > to complete the work yourself or not? If not, you have another opportuni ty > to engage in un-coerced commerce: the freedom to choose whom you will hi re > to make the repair. **** > > ** ** > > So, exercise your freedom and choose an avionics repair shop. Then engag e > the proprietor in contract negotiations ' you each have the freedom to > accept, refuse or rebut the others proposal. When you reach an agreement > on the work to be accomplished and the price, you have a contract. If th e > work is accomplished in accordance with the contract, you have a duty to > complete the contract and pay the man. If the work is not accomplished i n > accordance with the contract, you have the freedom to seek satisfaction.* * > ** > > ** ** > > Believe it or not, it is relevant.**** > > ** ** > > Neal George **** > > ** ** > > *From:* owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *joe motis > > I have a KX 155 VOR that the to/from flag has ceased to function. Would > someone please tell me how cartoons and Bible quotes are going to help me > repair it?**** > > I must be doing something wrong.**** > >


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    Time: 02:21:23 PM PST US
    From: rayj <raymondj@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Fw: 1948 Cartoon
    Bob Help! Help! Please direct these people to your other list. do not archive. Raymond Julian Kettle River, MN. "And you know that I could have me a million more friends, and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine On 08/28/2012 03:28 PM, rayj wrote: > > I agree with Lynn. There are 1000 of places on the 'net to see and post > opinions. There's only one AeroElectric, lets keep it focused. > > I don't want to have to wade through crap to get to the information that > is the purpose of this list. > > do not archive > > Raymond Julian > Kettle River, MN. > > "And you know that I could have me a million more friends, > and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine > > On 08/28/2012 03:04 PM, Bill Bradburry wrote: >> I agree it was probably not appropriate for the list, but I enjoyed the >> cartoon anyway! My delete key still works really well. >> >> B2 >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> *From:*owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of >> *Lynn Cole >> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 28, 2012 3:35 PM >> *To:* aeroelectric-list@matronics.com >> *Subject:* Re: AeroElectric-List: Fwd: Fw: 1948 Cartoon >> >> Please do not pollute this list server with non-aviation garbage. >> >> Do not archive. >> >> ----- >> Lynn Cole >> LynnCole@foxvalley.net <mailto:LynnCole@foxvalley.net> >> >> >> On Aug 28, 2012, at 12:16 PM, David wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ANYONE KNOW OBUMMERS E-MAIL ADDRESS? >> >> */In God We Trust!/* >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> *Pretty amazing, for sure...*check this one out. >> >> >> It's incredible that this 1948 cartoon has come this close >> to depicting our current day situation. It's worth your time. >> >> 1948 cartoon >> *EVERY PERSON IN THE USA SHOULD SEE THIS!* >> *JUST THINK, THIS WAS FORECASTED 62 YEARS AGO!* >> *What can a cartoon, produced in 1948, teach us today, >> that's of any value? You'd be very surprised! Pay close >> attention! Keep in mind as you watch this that it was done >> in '1948'. Keep telling yourself that as you view it.* >> *This is**one of the best****I have ever seen and it was >> produced in 1948. This should be viewed by every AMERICAN. >> Click on 1948Cartoon below -****this cartoon is timeless and >> is just as true today as****it was in 1948!* >> >> ***1948 Cartoon* >> >> <http://nationaljuggernaut.blogspot.com/2009/09/this-cartoon-seemed-far-fetched-in-1948.html> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> /Anna/ >> >> /" >> "Choose you this day whom ye shall serve...As for me & my house, we will >> serve the Lord."/ >> >> Joshua 24:15 >> >> * * >> >> * * >> >> *href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List" >> style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; >> ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List* >> >> *blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://forums.matronics.com* >> >> *style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; >> ">http://www.matronics.com/contribution* >> >> * * >> >> * >> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List >> >> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c >> * >> >> * >> >> >> * >> > >


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    Time: 02:45:55 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Fw: 1948 Cartoon
    From: Christopher Cee Stone <rv8iator@gmail.com>
    Gentlemen... This is not the forum to promulgate this BS. Please take it somewhere else . This formum is about aeroelectric... no less, no more. Do not archive Chris Stone Could someone tell me where Jesus preached in the bible that the free > enterprise or capitalist system is the most godly? > > RF > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Neal George <neal.george@gmail.com>wrot e: > >> An excellent question, Joe!**** >> >> ** ** >> >> You=92ve exercised your freedom to engage in un-coerced commerce and own >> property (an airplane and its associated equipment). Now that some of t he >> equipment has ceased to function correctly, you have the freedom to make a >> choice ' repair it or not. **** >> >> ** ** >> >> More freedom: If you choose to repair the unit, do you possess the >> skills to complete the work yourself or not? If not, you have another >> opportunity to engage in un-coerced commerce: the freedom to choose who m >> you will hire to make the repair. **** >> >> ** ** >> >> So, exercise your freedom and choose an avionics repair shop. Then >> engage the proprietor in contract negotiations ' you each have the fre edom >> to accept, refuse or rebut the others proposal. When you reach an >> agreement on the work to be accomplished and the price, you have a >> contract. If the work is accomplished in accordance with the contract, you >> have a duty to complete the contract and pay the man. If the work is no t >> accomplished in accordance with the contract, you have the freedom to se ek >> satisfaction.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Believe it or not, it is relevant.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Neal George **** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: >> owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *joe motis >> >> I have a KX 155 VOR that the to/from flag has ceased to function. Would >> someone please tell me how cartoons and Bible quotes are going to help m e >> repair it?**** >> >> I must be doing something wrong.**** >> >> >> > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > >


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    Time: 03:11:11 PM PST US
    From: "William Greenley" <wgreenley@gmail.com>
    Subject: Fwd: Fw: 1948 Cartoon
    Any chance we could agree on two items 1) This is not a forum for political discussions 2) Freedom and protecting it is not BS, and calling it that does, I think, offend many more people than any cartoon link ever did, and if had never been attacked would have never generated any more posts From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Cee Stone Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 5:45 PM Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Fwd: Fw: 1948 Cartoon Gentlemen... This is not the forum to promulgate this BS. Please take it somewhere else. This formum is about aeroelectric... no less, no more. Do not archive Chris Stone Could someone tell me where Jesus preached in the bible that the free enterprise or capitalist system is the most godly? RF On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Neal George <neal.george@gmail.com> wrote: An excellent question, Joe! You've exercised your freedom to engage in un-coerced commerce and own property (an airplane and its associated equipment). Now that some of the equipment has ceased to function correctly, you have the freedom to make a choice - repair it or not. More freedom: If you choose to repair the unit, do you possess the skills to complete the work yourself or not? If not, you have another opportunity to engage in un-coerced commerce: the freedom to choose whom you will hire to make the repair. So, exercise your freedom and choose an avionics repair shop. Then engage the proprietor in contract negotiations - you each have the freedom to accept, refuse or rebut the others proposal. When you reach an agreement on the work to be accomplished and the price, you have a contract. If the work is accomplished in accordance with the contract, you have a duty to complete the contract and pay the man. If the work is not accomplished in accordance with the contract, you have the freedom to seek satisfaction. Believe it or not, it is relevant. Neal George From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of joe motis I have a KX 155 VOR that the to/from flag has ceased to function. Would someone please tell me how cartoons and Bible quotes are going to help me repair it? I must be doing something wrong. ist" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 03:38:31 PM PST US
    From: rayj <raymondj@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Fw: 1948 Cartoon
    The reason I object to the posting is because if no one objects to the 1st one, then soon there are more off topic posts than ones that pertain to the subject the list was created to exchange information about. These posts are like raspberry bushes. Annoying weeds in a vineyard, but producers of tasty fruit in a raspberry patch. As I mentioned before, there are 1000s of places to post and read opinions. There is ONLY ONE AeroElectric list. Bob even has a list that is a more appropriate forum for these exchanges. Please respect the wishes of those who wish to keep this list focused. do not archive Raymond Julian Kettle River, MN. "And you know that I could have me a million more friends, and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine On 08/29/2012 05:09 PM, William Greenley wrote: > Any chance we could agree on two items > > 1)This is not a forum for political discussions > > 2)Freedom and protecting it is not BS, and calling it that does, I > think, offend many more people than any cartoon link ever did, and if > had never been attacked would have never generated any more posts > > *From:*owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of > *Christopher Cee Stone > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2012 5:45 PM > *To:* aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: AeroElectric-List: Fwd: Fw: 1948 Cartoon > > Gentlemen... > > This is not the forum to promulgate this BS. Please take it somewhere else. > > This formum is about aeroelectric... no less, no more. > > Do not archive > > Chris Stone > > Could someone tell me where Jesus preached in the bible that the > free enterprise or capitalist system is the most godly? > > RF > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Neal George <neal.george@gmail.com > <mailto:neal.george@gmail.com>> wrote: > > An excellent question, Joe! > > Youve exercised your freedom to engage in un-coerced commerce and > own property (an airplane and its associated equipment). Now that > some of the equipment has ceased to function correctly, you have the > freedom to make a choice repair it or not. > > More freedom: If you choose to repair the unit, do you possess the > skills to complete the work yourself or not? If not, you have > another opportunity to engage in un-coerced commerce: the freedom > to choose whom you will hire to make the repair. > > So, exercise your freedom and choose an avionics repair shop. Then > engage the proprietor in contract negotiations you each have the > freedom to accept, refuse or rebut the others proposal. When you > reach an agreement on the work to be accomplished and the price, you > have a contract. If the work is accomplished in accordance with the > contract, you have a duty to complete the contract and pay the man. > If the work is not accomplished in accordance with the contract, you > have the freedom to seek satisfaction. > > Believe it or not, it is relevant. > > Neal George > > *From:*owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com > <mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com> > [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com > <mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com>] *On Behalf Of > *joe motis > > I have a KX 155 VOR that the to/from flag has ceased to function. > Would someone please tell me how cartoons and Bible quotes are going > to help me repair it? > > I must be doing something wrong. > > * * > > * * > > *ist" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List* > > *tp://forums.matronics.com* > > *_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > * * > > * * > > * * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List* > > ** > > ** > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > *< - List Contribution Web Site -* > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > ** > > * * > > * > > > * >


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    Time: 04:07:48 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Ground loops
    From: "stearman456" <warbirds@shaw.ca>
    In the example above with the SL-40 and the audio panel, would it be acceptable to go to pin 13 & 14 with a shielded double wire and ground the shielding per Note 1 at the radio rack, leaving the shielding at the audio panel end free? I'm about to do a stand alone SL-40 installation with no audio panel and the install drawing for it shows the shielding also grounds at the jack ends as well as per Note 1. Dan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382102#382102


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    Time: 04:16:53 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Ground loops
    At 06:07 PM 8/29/2012, you wrote: In the example above with the SL-40 and the audio panel, would it be acceptable to go to pin 13 & 14 with a shielded double wire and ground the shielding per Note 1 at the radio rack, leaving the shielding at the audio panel end free? I'm about to do a stand alone SL-40 installation with no audio panel and the install drawing for it shows the shielding also grounds at the jack ends as well as per Note 1. Dan Emacs! There is no value in connecting both ends unless the shield is also a signal/power conductor. Since this is not the case, connection at one end only is sufficient to reap the benefits of shielding but connection at both ends in this case is unlikely to be troublesome. Bob . . .


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    Time: 04:23:03 PM PST US
    Subject: Charger needed to revive 18 aH Lead Acid Batteries
    From: "rparigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
    Hi Group I have a task to try and revive some 18 aH 12 volt sealed AGM batteries that weigh in at ~ 14.5 pounds. The charger that was being used on them begins at a 3.5aH charger, then slows down a bit and peaks ~ 14.2/3 then goes to 13.7 float. After a while, I don't know if from letting discharge too much or for too long, or the 3.5 aH is a bit too fast, but what happens is the batteries although they peak and go to float, they really don't take too much of a charge and have a very low capacity. I have a 900mA Yuasa motorcycle charger, that does a little better. Now what I did find works really well, is using the fool cheapest of cheap battery chargers I gave away with the 9aH batteries I sold on AeroElestric. That charger is nothing more than a 500mA transformer that supplies a constant 500mA current, then the circuit just looks for 15.4/5 and turns off. Now mind you it can take not hours, but days to reach that magic 15.4/5 number, and some batteries can not be revived, but most can. Then I found that if I take two of these batteries and parallel them and let the poor 500mA charger reach 15.4/5, it gets about as good as it gets so far. I think that the longer elevated voltage is perhaps desulfating?? I have a constant current 2 aH charger, and if I let it go much over 14.4 the batteries make a minor bubbling noise that I don't like too much and figure if I let it go it will begin venting? I let it go 2 hours but the 500mA charge brought back more capacity. Sorry for the long winded explain, what I need: I need a consistent source for a fairly inexpensive charger that can help revive these batteries. I looked at Walmart, they have a 1.5 amp charger that peaks too low. Any ideas? Thanking you in advance Ron Parigoris Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382105#382105


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    Time: 04:31:27 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Ground loops
    From: "stearman456" <warbirds@shaw.ca>
    Thanks, Bob. I don't know where you get the time to answer all our questions but we sure appreciate it. Dan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382107#382107


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    Time: 07:27:00 PM PST US
    From: Robert Buls <bulsr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Fw: 1948 Cartoon
    A little thin-skinned are we, Joe? =0A=0A=0A=0A>___________________________ _____=0A>From: joe motis <joemotis@gmail.com>=0A>To: aeroelectric-list@matr onics.com =0A>Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:35 AM=0A>Subject: Re: Aer oElectric-List: Fwd: Fw: 1948 Cartoon=0A>=0A>I assume that you feel that ga rbage like your post and and your God references are appropriate here, let me be one of the many to tell you that they are not. =0A>Also, protocol on the list encourages that you also write on your post "do not archive" as to not fill the servers with =C2-needless postings. Plus, as an added bonus , your post is not aviation related so it should not be here in the first p lace.=0A>Finally, "Obummer'?=0A>What are you 12??=0A>=0A>=0A>Joe Motis=0A> =0A>=0A>Cherokee =C2-180=0A>=0A>=0A>No Archive =0A>On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 a t 10:16 AM, David <dlposey-atlanta@att.net> wrote: =0A>ANYONE KNOW OBUMMER =99S E-MAIL ADDRESS?=0A>>=0A>>In God We Trust!=0A>>=C2-=0A>>=C2- =0A>>=0A>>>________________________________=0A>>>=0A>>>=C2-=0A>>>=C2- =0A>>>Pretty amazing, for sure...check this one out.=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=C2- =0A>>>>>=C2-=0A>>>>>It's incredible that this 1948 cartoon has come this close to depicting our current day situation.=C2- It's worth your time. =0A>>>>>=C2-=C2-=C2-=0A>>>>>1948 cartoon=C2-=0A>>>>>EVERY PERSON IN THE USA SHOULD SEE THIS!=C2-=0A>>>>>JUST THINK, THIS WAS FORECASTED 62 Y EARS AGO!=C2-=0A>>>>>What can a cartoon, produced in 1948, teach us today , that's of any value? You'd be very surprised! Pay close attention! Keep i n mind as you watch this that it was done in '1948'. Keep telling yourself that as you view it.=C2-=0A>>>>>This is one of the bestI have ever seen a nd it was produced in 1948. This should be viewed by every AMERICAN.=C2- Click on 1948Cartoon below -=C2-this cartoon is timeless and is just as t rue today as=C2-it was in 1948!=C2-=C2-=0A>>>>>=C2-=0A>>>>>=C2- =C2- 1948 Cartoon=0A>>>>>=C2-=C2- =0A>>>>>=C2-=0A>>>=C2-=0A>>=0A >>=0A>>=0A>>-- =0A>>Anna=0A>>"=0A>>"Choose you this day whom ye shall serve ...As for me & my house, we will serve the Lord." =0A>>Joshua 24:15=0A>>=C2 -=0A>>=C2-=0A>>ist" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigato r?AeroElectric-Listtp://forums.matronics.com_blank">http://www.matron ==


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    Time: 07:35:33 PM PST US
    Subject: External Antenna for Garmin Aera 500 GPS?
    From: "stearman456" <warbirds@shaw.ca>
    Can anyone recommend an external antenna for an Aera 500? It'll be a permanent installation on the aircraft. Not interested in anything with a suction cup. Dan warbirds(at)shaw.ca Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382121#382121




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