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1. 04:09 AM - elt batteries (bob noffs)
2. 04:48 AM - Re: elt batteries (R. curtis)
3. 05:29 AM - Re: elt batteries (Bill Watson)
4. 07:00 AM - Re: Fuel Pressure Sensor search (user9253)
5. 07:57 AM - Re: The biggest lie of Campaign 2012 (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
6. 08:11 AM - Re: The biggest lie of Campaign 2012 (Dick Wildman)
7. 08:28 AM - Re: how can non-subscribers post? (Ralph Finch)
8. 08:47 AM - Re: The biggest lie of Campaign 2012 (Dj Merrill)
9. 09:02 AM - Re: Flap Control Schematic - will it work? (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
10. 10:07 AM - Re: Flap Control Schematic - will it work? (Robert Reed)
11. 10:51 AM - Re: The biggest lie of Campaign 2012 (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
12. 11:16 AM - Re: Fuel Pressure Sensor search (John Loram)
13. 11:23 AM - CbOV-14 / OVM-14 Crowbar OV Module (John Loram)
14. 12:16 PM - Re: The biggest lie of Campaign 2012 (Bill Allen)
15. 01:05 PM - Re: CbOV-14 / OVM-14 Crowbar OV Module (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
16. 01:40 PM - Re: elt batteries (bob noffs)
17. 02:32 PM - AEC9004-1 OV Module (Rob Henderson)
18. 03:35 PM - Re: elt batteries (Ed Holyoke)
19. 04:21 PM - Re: elt batteries (bob noffs)
20. 05:28 PM - Schumacher 1562 Redux (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
21. 08:06 PM - Re: The biggest lie of Campaign 2012 (Neal George)
22. 09:01 PM - Re: elt batteries (Kelly McMullen)
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starting on my first annual.
do i remember correctly........the d batteries in the elt must be changed
every year?
thanks bob noffs
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| Subject: | Re: elt batteries |
starting on my first annual.
do i remember correctly........the d batteries in the elt must be
changed every year?
thanks bob noffs
Normally the manufacturer specifies that you use date coded
alkaline batteries, and they are to be changed before the end of the
coded period. They do not have to be changed each year.
Roger
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| Subject: | Re: elt batteries |
My old ELT (10 years old) required new batteries every 24 months.
My new ACK 406Mh ELT specifies 5 years for the lithium batteries.
Bill
On 9/19/2012 7:47 AM, R. curtis wrote:
>
> starting on my first annual.
> do i remember correctly........the d batteries in the elt must be
> changed every year?
> thanks bob noffs
> **
> Normally the manufacturer specifies that you use date coded
> alkaline batteries, and they are to be changed before the end of
> the coded period. They do not have to be changed each year.
> Roger
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Pressure Sensor search |
I think a fuel tank pressure transducer or switch would be a nice to have to warn
about a plugged vent. Some accidents have happened because the fuel tank vent
was plugged. Is there an inexpensive and easy way to monitor fuel tank pressure?
Perhaps an automotive fuel tank pressure sensor would work. I even thought
about mounting a microswitch against the outside of the tank, if tank geometry
and accessibility allowed. The switch would operate if the tank skin was
forced inward by atmospheric pressure. A low pressure warning might prevent
a forced landing. Of course a thorough pre-flight inspection of the fuel vent
is easier than installing more instrumentation. Some of us forget or are in
a hurry. Just thinking out loud.
Joe
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Joe Gores
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383505#383505
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| Subject: | Re: The biggest lie of Campaign 2012 |
At 04:31 PM 9/17/2012, you wrote:
>
>We knew that idiot Obama's budget was bogus from the beginning, but
>it's even worse! The article doesn't get to the important stuff for
>several paragraphs.
>
>http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/the-biggest-lie-of-campaign-2012-169941296.html
<rscott@cascadeaccess.com> is not presently subscribed to
any lists on Matronics. The posting of the original message
was to a number of 'undisclosed recipients' on R Scott's Bcc
file. More likely than not, the AeroElectric-List was accidently
included in that file.
The very BEST thing to do with/about such events is delete and
ignore. It serves little purpose to chastise the accidental poster
and even less purpose to hammer zealots for any cause. Just
cruise thought a few 'flame wars' being conducted on UseNet and
grieve for the waste of what might otherwise be productive time.
Off topic postings should be afforded an expenditure of $time$
commensurate with the value you derive from the posting. If it's
zero . . . then send it off to the trash and get on with more
important business.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: The biggest lie of Campaign 2012 |
Bob;
You wisdom is refreshing.
Dick Wildman
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: The biggest lie of Campaign 2012
> <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
>
> At 04:31 PM 9/17/2012, you wrote:
>>
>>We knew that idiot Obama's budget was bogus from the beginning, but it's
>>even worse! The article doesn't get to the important stuff for several
>>paragraphs.
>>
>>http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/the-biggest-lie-of-campaign-2012-169941296.html
>
>
> <rscott@cascadeaccess.com> is not presently subscribed to
> any lists on Matronics. The posting of the original message
> was to a number of 'undisclosed recipients' on R Scott's Bcc
> file. More likely than not, the AeroElectric-List was accidently
> included in that file.
>
> The very BEST thing to do with/about such events is delete and
> ignore. It serves little purpose to chastise the accidental poster
> and even less purpose to hammer zealots for any cause. Just
> cruise thought a few 'flame wars' being conducted on UseNet and
> grieve for the waste of what might otherwise be productive time.
>
> Off topic postings should be afforded an expenditure of $time$
> commensurate with the value you derive from the posting. If it's
> zero . . . then send it off to the trash and get on with more
> important business.
>
>
> Bob . . .
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: how can non-subscribers post? |
I thought non-subscribers were not allowed to post to any lists on
Matronics?
Ralph Finch
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <
nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> wrote:
> nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com**>
>
>
> <rscott@cascadeaccess.com> is not presently subscribed to
> any lists on Matronics. The posting of the original message
> was to a number of 'undisclosed recipients' on R Scott's Bcc
> file. More likely than not, the AeroElectric-List was accidently
> included in that file.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: The biggest lie of Campaign 2012 |
On 09/19/2012 10:56 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
> Off topic postings should be afforded an expenditure of $time$
> commensurate with the value you derive from the posting. If it's
> zero . . . then send it off to the trash and get on with more
> important business.
The fundamental issue is that it is not zero. One person expends a
small amount of time sending the "off topic" political message, and then
hundreds of us have to ignore and delete it. That amounts to a rather
huge amount of wasted $time$ and effort when added together.
I'd like to request a "One strike, You're out" policy from now until
mid-November. Specifically, one political posting to the Aeroelectric
list gets you banned from the list at least until after the elections.
I'll even volunteer my $time$ to play moderator to help keep on top of
these offenders, and I bet several other people would also be willing to
help.
Frankly, I'm getting so sick and tired of going through this several
times per year that it is worth it for me to spend the $time$ to help
deal with the problem, and help so others don't have to.
-Dj
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Flap Control Schematic - will it work? |
At 12:28 AM 9/19/2012, you wrote:
>Bob
>
>Couple of days ago Ii sent you a diagram of a design that should
>work. I understand from your silence that you are shocked from the
>complex and convoluted design J..... Since then I cleaned the
>diagram and came up with simplified design (only three relays, two
>of them are small, light duty ones)
>
>Let me know if you are interested
Not sure about what you are asking of me. I've followed
the thread of discussion. You were getting the attention
of several folk skilled in the deduction of functionality
and dissection for potential failure.
I've generally counseled caution and considered restraint
when it come to attaching motors to flight controls.
We used a LOT of such motors on the heavy iron birds and
for 99.99% of the time, the designs were golden for convenience
to the pilot and reduction of risk.
A flap lowered by pulling up a handle on the floor
is generally free of risk for un-commanded motion.
Although I think I recall reading of an incident where
the worn ratchet mechanism on a Johnson bar flap handle
failed and produced an un-commanded retraction.
I spend a lot of my boss's money tracking down root
cause for a series of runaway roll trim incidents on
. . . on a design that was 35 years old and rose out of
a combination of production changes over decades.
That was an interesting study in the laws of unintended
and unforeseen consequences and had a really surprising
outcome. I'll see if I can dig up reports I did on that
study and share them.
My first question for evaluating any proposed 'convenience'
is cost of ownership and assessment of added risk.
Is this device going to improve the manner in which the
airplane can be operated? What are the trade-offs for adding
complexity to the system in exchange for convenience and
adding risk for un-commanded motion?
Please understand that not for on minute do I suggest
that discussions around your proposal have no value. They
are of great value whether or not the system is ultimately
installed on an airplane. Any exercise in crafting and
meeting design goals validated by a satisfactory assessment
for cost of ownership and risk is exactly what we got
paid for on the TC side of the house. Not EVERY idea ran
the gauntlet of well considered critical review and found
its way onto an airplane . . . in fact, MOST did not. But
those ideas that did make it production were the collective
best-we-knew-how-to-do and the study of EVERY idea was a
learning experience.
If your question concerns my assessment of function, benefit
and risk, I'll have to study the latest iteration of your idea.
I'm not sure which drawing is the latest. Can you re-post it?
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Flap Control Schematic - will it work? |
Nati,=0A=0AI looked at your diagram and was adimttedly very confused by it.
=C2- It seemed to =0Alose much of the desired KISS goal that I was trying
to achieve but I didn't =0Ahave the time to give it the attention it deser
ved.=C2- In subsequent discussions =0Awith a friend who has a plane like
the one I am building the subject has turned =0Ato an even simpler design t
hat didn't rely on step switches at all but simply =0Aused them for indicat
or lights.=C2- Several people I have talked with preferred =0Aonly the ab
solute limit switches with a momentary switch for up and down only.=C2-
=0AThey were recommending putting the switch on the stick so that it could
be more =0Aeasily activated without having to reach for a console switch.
=C2- That has certain =0Aappeal but I have always found the switched on t
he controls to be somewhat =0Aunreliable and tried to stay away from them.
=C2- =0A=0A=0AI am still considering all alternatives and would be intere
sted in seeing what =0Ayou worked up though.=0A=0ABob Reed=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A__
______________________________=0AFrom: Nati Niv <n992dn@gmail.com>=0ATo: ae
roelectric-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wed, September 19, 2012 12:30:03 AM
=0ASubject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Flap Control Schematic - will it work?
=0A=0A=0ABob=0A=C2-=0ACouple of days ago Ii sent you a diagram of a desig
n that should work. I =0Aunderstand from your silence that you are shocked
from the complex and =0Aconvoluted design J..... Since then I cleaned the d
iagram and came up with =0Asimplified design (only three relays, two of the
m are small, light duty ones)=0A=C2-=0ALet me know if you are interested
=0A=C2-=0ANati=0AOn Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Nati Niv <n992dn@gmail
.com> wrote:=0A=0ABob=0A>=C2-=0A>Here is something that will work for you
: from any to any (position), with limit =0A>switches and based on electrom
echanical (relays =C2-7=C2-of them they=C2-can be very =0A>small) and
11 diodes, more complex but it will work=0A>.=0A>For that to work properly
you will need to modify the mechanical design in a way =0A>that only one m
icro switch is make at a time, you will also have different LED =0A>indicat
ion compared to your design: only one LED will be lit at a time =0A>indicat
ing current flap position.=0A>=C2-=0A>Have funNati=0A>On Sat, Sep 15, 201
2 at 11:41 AM, Nati Niv <n992dn@gmail.com> wrote:=0A>=0A>Bob=0A>>=C2-=0A>
>Now, that I understand the mechanical design I have a solution including t
o the =0A>>=9Cmoving from any position to any position up/down
=9D can you send me the diagram =0A>>in a format other than PDF and I will
returned it corrected? Now that I =0A>>understand I really the simplicity o
f it.=C2-=0A>>Nati=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 10:39 AM, R
obert Reed <robertr237@att.net> wrote:=0A>>=0A>>Nati,=0A>>>=0A>>>Sorry, I o
nly showed the electrical and did not explain the mechanics of the =0A>>>op
eration.=C2- =0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>The micro-switches will be located in a ch
annel with the ability to move them to =0A>>>adjust the positions.=C2- A
slide bar will be attached to the trim control arm.=C2- =0A>>>The slide b
ar will close each switch in line during the retract operation and =0A>>>op
en each in line during the extend.=C2- During the retract operation only
the =0A>>>retract circuit will be powered by the rotary switch with the int
ent of full =0A>>>retraction and not stepped retraction.=C2- During exten
sion, only one circuit can =0A>>>be active at any time and that circuit wil
l close as soon as the slide bar =0A>>>passes the switch allowing it to ope
n.=C2- The indicator lights will only light =0A>>>when the desired circui
t is active and the switch is open.=C2- It should allow for =0A>>>either
stepped flap extension or full extension with one operation.=0A>>>=0A>>>Bob
=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=C2-=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A______________________________
__=0AFrom: Nati Niv <n992dn@gmail.com>=0A>>>To: aeroelectric-list@matronics
.com=0A>>>Sent: Fri, September 14, 2012 10:14:26 PM=0A>>>Subject: Re: AeroE
lectric-List: Flap Control Schematic - will it work?=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>
>Rob=0A>>>=C2-=0A>>>It will not work.=0A>>>I understand the KIS approach
that leads you to use relays/micro switches only. =0A>>>Unfortunately desig
ning such thing will require some level of electronic =0A>>>involves and th
e reason for it is that you need to know at all times what the =0A>>>positi
on of the flaps is because you need to tell the motor to which direction
=0A>>>to go, up/down. Using micro switch as a location sensing lacks this c
apability, =0A>>>it =9Csenses=9D at only one position, the posi
tion to which you set it mechanically =0A>>>along the motor travel. The mom
ent the motor moves from that position you have =0A>>>no indication of wher
e you are. The most common sense to use as sensing device =0A>>>would be a
potentiometer, and then you need some electronics to sense and =0A>>>compar
e (comparators). I would even think basing the design on the LM3914 10 LED
=0A>>>driver. =0A>>>=0A>>>When it was time for me to change the flap system
on my RANS 6 from manual to =0A>>>electric I thought, as an electronic fan
about deferent designs but eventually =0A>>>find myself using this:=0A>>>
=C2-=0A>>>http://www.e-motionllc.com/Feedback_actuator_p/fa-po-150-12-2.h
tm=0A>>>=C2-=0A>>>As the actuator (it has built in potentiometer) =0A>>>
=C2-=0A>>>And this as a controller.=0A>>>=C2-=0A>>>http://www.aircrafts
pruce.com/catalog/elpages/electronicsflapcontroller.php=0A>>>=C2-=0A>>>A
little pricy, I know but works, I love every second flying the 6 with this
=0A>>>arrangement=0A>>>=C2-=0A>>>Nati=0A>>>RANS 6=0A>>>Illinois =C2-=C2
-=0A>>>=C2-=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 6:51 AM, Robert Re
ed <robertr237@att.net> wrote:=0A>>>=0A>>>All,=0A>>>>=C2-=0A>>>>Attached
is my plan for a flap control system using a Rotary 4 position switch =0A>>
>>to control the flaps with LED indicators to show the position settings.
=C2- The =0A>>>>rotary switch will have a lever that not only gives a tac
tile feel indicating =0A>>>>position but will point to the LED.=C2- I bel
ieve this setup will work but would =0A>>>>like some review.=C2- I have a
lso included absolute limit switched to ensure that =0A>>>>an over-run will
not occur due to a bad relay.=0A>>>>=C2-=0A>>>>Bob Reed=0A>>>=0A>>> om/
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| Subject: | Re: The biggest lie of Campaign 2012 |
I'd like to request a "One strike, You're out" policy from now until
mid-November. Specifically, one political posting to the Aeroelectric
list gets you banned from the list at least until after the elections.
First, we are immersed in a sea of 'noise' from all
directions on a host of venues. Just driving down the
street . . . how many objects within view are demanding
not only your attention . . . but hoping for some response
that is beneficial to their cause? I cannot recall
the last time that any invasive advertiser's efforts
induced me to part with my cash in exchange for their
intrusion into my head.
Such advertisers DEPEND on human frailties that preclude
picking out the good stuff from the noise.
I'll even volunteer my $time$ to play moderator to help keep on top of
these offenders, and I bet several other people would also be willing to
help.
Frankly, I'm getting so sick and tired of going through this several
times per year that it is worth it for me to spend the $time$ to help
deal with the problem, and help so others don't have to.
I'm sorry that it's been so taxing of your resources and
emotional capital. We don't even have a convenient mechanism
for electronically banning such individuals. In most every case
I recall, the offending individual made an accidental posting for
which they apologized. The sad reality is the number of keystrokes
expended in response to the accidents. In the case before
us, the poster appears to be a hit-and-run . . . is already
un-subscribed either by their own action or Matt having
manually edited an approved posters list. I don't even
care to know which.
For us to rise to active defense of such behaviors may
well be exactly what the poster wants. Look at result for
one individual bringing explosives onto an airplane in
his shoe . . . or underwear. One act stirs millions to
excited, no-value-added responses in perpetuity. The honorable
folks corralled one turkey-butt while subscribing to
never ending tariff on that 'victory'.
These individuals are worthy of no more time and attention
than the next blindingly bright, giant screen billboard
you pass. If we can teach ourselves how to understand the
weak signal from ATC immersed in wind, prop and sheet metal
noise, we can learn to ignore the occasional intruder to the
List. I think the last thing we want to do is create a
Listserver Security Administration . . . it would only
serve to sanction those guilty of accident while shooing
the real perps off to more fertile ground. Not, I think,
a good use of our time.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Fuel Pressure Sensor search |
Thanks all for leads. I've settled on the 0-5psi (0.33 bar) fuel pressure
sensor that Dynon sells for their engine monitor system. They designate it
for Jabiru/Rotax gravity feed applications, exactly my situation.
thanks again, -john-
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of John Loram
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 4:38 PM
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Fuel Pressure Sensor search
>
> <johnl@loram.org>
>
> Searching for a low pressure 7.5psi (0.5 bar) fuel (avgas)
> pressure sensor.
> Can be either two or three terminal.
>
> thanks for leads (brands or unused items), -john-
>
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| Subject: | CbOV-14 / OVM-14 Crowbar OV Module |
Is the CbOV-14 and the OVM-14 (circa 2001) (functionally) the same thing?
(I bought my a long time before I needed it.)
thanks, -john-
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| Subject: | Re: The biggest lie of Campaign 2012 |
Bob,
an astoundingly balanced, considered and proportionate response. Well said!
In this medium, the delete key is all the response we need......
Bill Allen
On 19 September 2012 18:50, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <
nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> wrote:
> nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com**>
>
> I'd like to request a "One strike, You're out" policy from now
> until
> mid-November. Specifically, one political posting to the Aeroelectric
> list gets you banned from the list at least until after the elections.
>
> First, we are immersed in a sea of 'noise' from all
> directions on a host of venues. Just driving down the
> street . . . how many objects within view are demanding
> not only your attention . . . but hoping for some response
> that is beneficial to their cause? I cannot recall
> the last time that any invasive advertiser's efforts
> induced me to part with my cash in exchange for their
> intrusion into my head.
>
> Such advertisers DEPEND on human frailties that preclude
> picking out the good stuff from the noise.
>
>
> I'll even volunteer my $time$ to play moderator to help keep on
> top of
> these offenders, and I bet several other people would also be willing to
> help.
>
> Frankly, I'm getting so sick and tired of going through this
> several
> times per year that it is worth it for me to spend the $time$ to help
> deal with the problem, and help so others don't have to.
>
>
> I'm sorry that it's been so taxing of your resources and
> emotional capital. We don't even have a convenient mechanism
> for electronically banning such individuals. In most every case
> I recall, the offending individual made an accidental posting for
> which they apologized. The sad reality is the number of keystrokes
> expended in response to the accidents. In the case before
> us, the poster appears to be a hit-and-run . . . is already
> un-subscribed either by their own action or Matt having
> manually edited an approved posters list. I don't even
> care to know which.
>
> For us to rise to active defense of such behaviors may
> well be exactly what the poster wants. Look at result for
> one individual bringing explosives onto an airplane in
> his shoe . . . or underwear. One act stirs millions to
> excited, no-value-added responses in perpetuity. The honorable
> folks corralled one turkey-butt while subscribing to
> never ending tariff on that 'victory'.
>
> These individuals are worthy of no more time and attention
> than the next blindingly bright, giant screen billboard
> you pass. If we can teach ourselves how to understand the
> weak signal from ATC immersed in wind, prop and sheet metal
> noise, we can learn to ignore the occasional intruder to the
> List. I think the last thing we want to do is create a
> Listserver Security Administration . . . it would only
> serve to sanction those guilty of accident while shooing
> the real perps off to more fertile ground. Not, I think,
> a good use of our time.
>
>
> Bob . . .
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: CbOV-14 / OVM-14 Crowbar OV Module |
At 01:23 PM 9/19/2012, you wrote:
>
>Is the CbOV-14 and the OVM-14 (circa 2001) (functionally) the same thing?
>
>(I bought my a long time before I needed it.)
>
>thanks, -john-
They are the same critter with minor changes to accommodate
parts availability.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: elt batteries |
thanks all,
i did change the duracell batteries in my elt today. the elt mfgr
specifies duracell. the new set of d batteries have an expiration date of
2022!. don't think i will wait 10 yrs.
bob noffs
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> My old ELT (10 years old) required new batteries every 24 months.
>
> My new ACK 406Mh ELT specifies 5 years for the lithium batteries.
>
> Bill
>
>
> On 9/19/2012 7:47 AM, R. curtis wrote:
>
>
> starting on my first annual.
> do i remember correctly........the d batteries in the elt must be changed
> every year?
> thanks bob noffs
> **
> Normally the manufacturer specifies that you use date coded alkaline
> batteries, and they are to be changed before the end of the coded period.
> They do not have to be changed each year.
>
> Roger
>
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| Subject: | AEC9004-1 OV Module |
Bob
Where can I get an OV module? I have checked your website and couldn't find
it.
I have an IR Alternator.
I am using Z-19RB and would like to integrate Z-24A
Thanks
-Rob Henderson
Glastar
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| Subject: | Re: elt batteries |
Don't forget the battery in the remote. It has an expiration of 8yrs,
lithium or 4yrs, alkaline if I remember correctly. If you don't have a
record of what battery was installed in the remote and when, you should
replace it and record the due date in your logbook.
Pax,
Ed Holyoke
A&P
On 9/19/2012 1:39 PM, bob noffs wrote:
> thanks all,
> i did change the duracell batteries in my elt today. the elt mfgr
> specifies duracell. the new set of d batteries have an expiration date
> of 2022!. don't think i will wait 10 yrs.
> bob noffs
>
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com
> <mailto:Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>> wrote:
>
> My old ELT (10 years old) required new batteries every 24 months.
>
> My new ACK 406Mh ELT specifies 5 years for the lithium batteries.
>
> Bill
>
>
> On 9/19/2012 7:47 AM, R. curtis wrote:
>>
>> starting on my first annual.
>> do i remember correctly........the d batteries in the elt
>> must be changed every year?
>> thanks bob noffs
>> **
>> Normally the manufacturer specifies that you use date
>> coded alkaline batteries, and they are to be changed before
>> the end of the coded period. They do not have to be changed
>> each year.
>> Roger
>>
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: elt batteries |
yep,i kept the expiration date for the remote battery. dumb luck as i kept
the blister pack packaging so i could get another battery when the time
came.
bob noffs
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Ed Holyoke <bicyclop@pacbell.net> wrote:
> **
> Don't forget the battery in the remote. It has an expiration of 8yrs,
> lithium or 4yrs, alkaline if I remember correctly. If you don't have a
> record of what battery was installed in the remote and when, you should
> replace it and record the due date in your logbook.
>
> Pax,
>
> Ed Holyoke
> A&P
>
> On 9/19/2012 1:39 PM, bob noffs wrote:
>
> thanks all,
> i did change the duracell batteries in my elt today. the elt mfgr
> specifies duracell. the new set of d batteries have an expiration date of
> 2022!. don't think i will wait 10 yrs.
> bob noffs
>
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>wrote:
>
>> My old ELT (10 years old) required new batteries every 24 months.
>>
>> My new ACK 406Mh ELT specifies 5 years for the lithium batteries.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> On 9/19/2012 7:47 AM, R. curtis wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> starting on my first annual.
>> do i remember correctly........the d batteries in the elt must be
>> changed every year?
>> thanks bob noffs
>> **
>> Normally the manufacturer specifies that you use date coded alkaline
>> batteries, and they are to be changed before the end of the coded period.
>> They do not have to be changed each year.
>>
>> Roger
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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| Subject: | Schumacher 1562 Redux |
I've been trying to get this message to post all day.
It had an embedded .jpg capture from Photoshop in
it which may be sticking in the craw of Matt's spam
filters. In any case, here 'tis again but with the
data plot posted to the website.
I picked up a new Schumacher 1562 at the Pratt Walmart
on my way back to M.L. Monday. I connected it to the same
SVLA battery we used to explore Battery Tender performance
a few days ago. Here's the recharge profile
http://tinyurl.com/d8yc8rw
It's interesting to note that the charger spent nearly as
much time in the top-off as bulk-charge mode.
It will be interesting see what the next few cycles look
like. I just put the battery on 1.2A discharge to measure
it's energy content. Watch this space . . .
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | The biggest lie of Campaign 2012 |
Well said, Bob!
There are already several heavily moderated RV-related forums.
The allowed content is so bland I've stopped visiting even to troll for
(more) tools.
I find the Matronics style MUCH more useful.
Neal "I have a DELETE key and I'm skilled in its use" George
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I think the last thing we want to do is create a
Listserver Security Administration . . . it would only
serve to sanction those guilty of accident while shooing
the real perps off to more fertile ground. Not, I think,
a good use of our time.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: elt batteries |
On the ACK E-04 it is 10 yrs on lithium main, remote and alarm
batteries. 5 yrs on remote alkaline if you go that route.
On 9/19/2012 3:34 PM, Ed Holyoke wrote:
> Don't forget the battery in the remote. It has an expiration of 8yrs,
> lithium or 4yrs, alkaline if I remember correctly. If you don't have a
> record of what battery was installed in the remote and when, you
> should replace it and record the due date in your logbook.
>
> Pax,
>
> Ed Holyoke
> A&P
>
> On 9/19/2012 1:39 PM, bob noffs wrote:
>> thanks all,
>> i did change the duracell batteries in my elt today. the elt mfgr
>> specifies duracell. the new set of d batteries have an expiration
>> date of 2022!. don't think i will wait 10 yrs.
>> bob noffs
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com
>> <mailto:Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>> wrote:
>>
>> My old ELT (10 years old) required new batteries every 24 months.
>>
>> My new ACK 406Mh ELT specifies 5 years for the lithium batteries.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> On 9/19/2012 7:47 AM, R. curtis wrote:
>>>
>>> starting on my first annual.
>>> do i remember correctly........the d batteries in the elt
>>> must be changed every year?
>>> thanks bob noffs
>>> **
>>> Normally the manufacturer specifies that you use date
>>> coded alkaline batteries, and they are to be changed before
>>> the end of the coded period. They do not have to be changed
>>> each year.
>>> Roger
>>>
>>>
>>
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