---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 10/14/12: 21 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:04 AM - CAD drawings (peter Sokolowski) 2. 03:48 AM - Re: CAD drawings (Harley) 3. 04:33 AM - Re: CAD drawings (Henador Titzoff) 4. 04:42 AM - Re: lighting Hi/Lo and Dimmer - what are they? (Sacha) 5. 04:56 AM - Re: CAD drawings (Harley) 6. 06:45 AM - Re: CAD drawings (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 7. 06:50 AM - Re: CAD drawings (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 8. 06:53 AM - Re: CAD drawings (Henador Titzoff) 9. 06:59 AM - Re: CAD drawings (Jan) 10. 07:30 AM - Re: CAD drawings (Harley) 11. 07:42 AM - Re: CAD drawings (Harley) 12. 08:08 AM - Re: CAD drawings (Henador Titzoff) 13. 08:51 AM - Re: lighting Hi/Lo and Dimmer - what are they? (Tim Andres) 14. 10:49 AM - Re: lighting Hi/Lo and Dimmer - what are they? (Jeff Page) 15. 11:30 AM - Re: Re: lighting Hi/Lo and Dimmer - what are they? (U) 16. 01:17 PM - Re: CAD drawings (Lynn Cole) 17. 01:59 PM - AW: CAD drawings (peter Sokolowski) 18. 02:38 PM - Re: CAD drawings (Henador Titzoff) 19. 06:40 PM - Re: CAD drawings (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 20. 07:06 PM - Re: CAD drawings (Jan) 21. 08:40 PM - Re: Re: lighting Hi/Lo and Dimmer - what are they? (Jared Yates) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:04:13 AM PST US From: "peter Sokolowski" Subject: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings Hello group, I am in the final documentation phase of my LANCAIR 360 project and starting to copy my handmade - electrical - drawings to the computer. Therefore I am looking for a good tool and a free of charge CAD program probably compatible with ACAD. Any hints recommendations are highly appreciated, Thanks in advance, Peter ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:48:12 AM PST US From: Harley Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings I use Visual Cad, and that's not free, but you can use a full featured copy of it for 30 days without paying, if that's all you need. www.tritools.com/v6_demo.htm It does read some ACAD files, and they try to keep up with all the ACAD versions, but even Autocad can't read all of it's own versions. However, I have also been looking at Draftsight and find that it is a very good, free program. www.3ds.com/products/draftsight/download-draftsight/ It is very versatile, and I've found it an excellent program for my use, and, even though I haven't tried, it can read read and write ACAD (.dwg) files Harley ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hello group, I am in the final documentation phase of my LANCAIR 360 project and starting to copy my handmade - electrical - drawings to the computer. Therefore I am looking for a good tool and a free of charge CAD program probably compatible with ACAD. Any hints recommendations are highly appreciated, Thanks in advance, Peter ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:33:12 AM PST US From: Henador Titzoff Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings Harley, When I go to the Draftsight website you provide below, I see the headline: - -DraftSight: Professional-grade, free* CAD software Can you please tell me what the asterisk after "free" means? -A lot of "f ree" programs usually mean 30 day free trial, free if you sign up for somet hing else, etc. I hesitate to sign up for this program until I get a better understanding of what Dassault System's meaning of "free" is. Thanks. Henador Titzoff --- On Sun, 10/14/12, Harley wrote: From: Harley Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings =0A =0A=0A =0A =0A =0A I use Visual Cad, and that's not free, but you can use a full=0A featured copy of it for 30 days without paying,- if that's all you=0A need.- www.tritools.com/v6_demo.htm It does read some ACAD files,=0A and they try to keep up with all the ACAD versions, but even Autocad=0A can't read all of it's own versions. =0A =0A However, I have also been looking at Draftsight and find that it is =0A a very good, free program.=0A www.3ds.com/products/draftsight/dow nload-draftsight/ =0A =0A It is very versatile, and I've found it an excellent program for my =0A use, and, even though I haven't tried, it can read read and write=0A ACAD (.dwg) files=0A Harley=0A =0A =0AHello group,=0A=0AI am i n the final documentation phase of my LANCAIR 360 project and starting=0Ato copy my handmade - electrical - drawings to the computer. Therefore I am =0Alooking for a good tool and a free of charge CAD program probably compat ible=0Awith ACAD.=0A=0AAny hints recommendations are highly appreciated,=0A =0AThanks in advance,=0A=0APeter=0A=0A=0A=0A ==0A=0A ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:42:30 AM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: lighting Hi/Lo and Dimmer - what are they? From: Sacha Thanks Tim, I have the install manuals but what is a light bus exactly? A va riable 0-14v supply? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2012, at 7:54, Tim Andres wrote: > One the 430 what the device is expecting on those pins is configured in th e setup menu. But you can have it follow a light bus (on/off/dim) or use the built in eye to automatically dim the display, buttons and knobs. > Sounds like you need a copy of the install manuals. I believe you can down load them from Garmin. > > Tim > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Oct 13, 2012, at 9:11 PM, a a wrote: > >> Greetings, >> A couple of my avionics (GNS430, GMA240 and KI-209 specifically) have pin s labelled "Dimmer" and "Lighting Hi/Lo". >> I'm wondering what the device expects on these pins and havent been able t o find out anywhere on the web. I'm thinking Dimmer must be some kind of way of variying the input voltage to vary the brightness of the display and Lig hting Hi/Lo is just +14V/GND. Does anyone know? >> Sacha >> >> >> > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:56:00 AM PST US From: Harley Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings Totally free...if you are satisfied with using only the 2D version, and are using it as an individual. If you want to use it in your business, or the 3D version, you pay for it then. I've had it installed for over a year, and I'm still using it...it does ask you to "reactivate" it on occasion, but is just a single click to do so, no additional information needed, and that doesn't interfere with any work you are doing. I assume it is just to be sure that you are still an individual user. Besides having installed it on this desktop computer, I also have it on my Windows 7 tablet computer, and have been using it there for a couple of months. Harley ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Harley, > > When I go to the Draftsight website you provide below, I see > the headline: > > DraftSight: Professional-grade, free* CAD software > > Can you please tell me what the asterisk after "free" means? A > lot of "free" programs usually mean 30 day free trial, free if > you sign up for something else, etc. I hesitate to sign up for > this program until I get a better understanding of what > Dassault System's meaning of "free" is. > > Thanks. > > Henador Titzoff > > > --- On *Sun, 10/14/12, Harley //* wrote: > > > From: Harley > Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > Date: Sunday, October 14, 2012, 3:47 AM > > I use Visual Cad, and that's not free, but you can use a > full featured copy of it for 30 days without paying, if > that's all you need. www.tritools.com/v6_demo.htm > It does read some > ACAD files, and they try to keep up with all the ACAD > versions, but even Autocad can't read all of it's own > versions. > > However, I have also been looking at Draftsight and find > that it is a very good, free program. > www.3ds.com/products/draftsight/download-draftsight/ > > > It is very versatile, and I've found it an excellent > program for my use, and, even though I haven't tried, it > can read read and write ACAD (.dwg) files > > Harley > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > Hello group, > > I am in the final documentation phase of my LANCAIR 360 project and starting > to copy my handmade - electrical - drawings to the computer. Therefore I am > looking for a good tool and a free of charge CAD program probably compatible > with ACAD. > > Any hints recommendations are highly appreciated, > > Thanks in advance, > > Peter > > > *http://www.matronics.cofollow" target="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forum========= > > * > > * > > > * > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Date: 10/13/12 > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:45:08 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings At 04:02 AM 10/14/2012, you wrote: Hello group, I am in the final documentation phase of my LANCAIR 360 project and starting to copy my handmade - electrical - drawings to the computer. Therefore I am looking for a good tool and a free of charge CAD program probably compatible with ACAD. Any hints recommendations are highly appreciated, Thanks in advance, Suggest you look at NanoCAD http://tinyurl.com/9yl3ug5 It's free =AND= is 95%+ clone of AutoCAD in appearance and command structure. It will open, edit, save and print all of the AutoCAD drawings on my website. http://tinyurl.com/385dhl Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:50:36 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings Almost forgot . . . There's also a selection of page-per-system wirebook drawings you can download at: http://tinyurl.com/9a5n8jb If you're of the page=per=system persuasion, these drawings may well reduce your wiring documentation task by more than half. Many of the symbols are already in place for cut-n-paste. The view-per-page organization is already set up to let you document the whole project on one drawing while being able to print any combination of pages for the final document. -------------------------------------------------------------- At 04:02 AM 10/14/2012, you wrote: Hello group, I am in the final documentation phase of my LANCAIR 360 project and starting to copy my handmade - electrical - drawings to the computer. Therefore I am looking for a good tool and a free of charge CAD program probably compatible with ACAD. Any hints recommendations are highly appreciated, Thanks in advance, Suggest you look at NanoCAD http://tinyurl.com/9yl3ug5 It's free =AND= is 95%+ clone of AutoCAD in appearance and command structure. It will open, edit, save and print all of the AutoCAD drawings on my website. http://tinyurl.com/385dhl Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:53:47 AM PST US From: Henador Titzoff Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings Thanks, Harley, I appreciate the info below. I was afraid Dassault was gonn a hit me up to buy a Mirage OBAM kit. :) I never use 3D programs as my professional world revolves around electrical /field/SW simulation, but I know mechanicals are using programs like Pro-E and SolidWorks to do it. If we want to do simulation, do you or anyone else here know of a really good and cheap (free) 3D program? If not, how much d oes DraftSight 3D cost? I believe we had a CAD discussion about two months ago, but we didn't discu ss CAD simulation, or did we? Henador Titzoff --- On Sun, 10/14/12, Harley wrote: From: Harley Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings =0A =0A=0A =0A =0A =0A Totally free...if you are satisfied with us ing only the 2D version,=0A and are using it as an individual. If you wa nt to use it in your=0A business, or the 3D version, you pay for it then . =0A =0A I've had it installed for over a year, and I'm still using it...it =0A does ask you to "reactivate" it on occasion, but is just a single=0A click to do so, no additional information needed, and that doesn't=0A interfere with any work you are doing.- I assume it is just to be=0A sure that you are still an individual user.- Besides having=0A instal led it on this desktop computer, I also have it on my Windows=0A 7 table t computer, and have been using it there for a couple of=0A months. =0A =0A Harley =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A Harley,=0A =0A =0A When I go to the Draftsight website you p rovide=0A below, I see the headline:=0A =0A =0A - -DraftSight: Professional-grade, fr ee* CAD software=0A =0A =0A Can you please tell me what the asterisk after "free"=0A means? -A lot of "free" programs usually m ean 30 day=0A free trial, free if you sign up for something else, etc.=0A I hesitate to sign up for this program until I get a=0A better understanding of what Dassault System's mea ning=0A of "free" is.=0A =0A =0A Thanks.=0A =0A =0A Henador Titzoff=0A =0A =0A --- On Sun, 10/14/12, Harley =0A wrote: =0A =0A From: Harley =0A Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings =0A To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com =0A Date: Sunday, October 14, 2012, 3:47 AM =0A =0A =0A I use Visual Cad, and that's n ot free, but you=0A can use a full featured copy of it for 30 days=0A without paying,- if that's all you n eed.- www.tritools.com/v6_demo.htm=0A It does read s ome ACAD files, and they try to keep=0A up with all th e ACAD versions, but even Autocad=0A can't read all of it's own versions. =0A =0A However, I have also been looking at Draftsight=0A and find that it is a very good, free program. www.3d s.com/products/draftsight/download-draftsight/ =0A =0A It is very versatile, and I've found it an=0A excellent program for my use, and, even though I=0A haven't tried, it can read read and write ACAD=0A (.dwg) files=0A Harley=0A =0A Hello group,=0A=0AI am in the final documentat ion phase of my LANCAIR 360 project and starting=0Ato copy my handmade - el ectrical - drawings to the computer. Therefore I am=0Alooking for a good to ol and a free of charge CAD program probably compatible=0Awith ACAD.=0A=0AA ny hints recommendations are highly appreciated,=0A=0AThanks in advance,=0A =0APeter=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A http://www.matronics.cofollow" target="_blank" h ref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forum========= ==0A=0A=0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A=0A=0A No virus=0A found in this message. =0A Checked by AVG - www.avg.com =0A 10/13/12=0A =0A ==0A=0A ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:59:53 AM PST US From: Jan Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings DraftSight is 2D and free ... All the best Jan On Oct 14, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Henador Titzoff wro te: > > Thanks, Harley, I appreciate the info below. I was afraid Dassault was gon na hit me up to buy a Mirage OBAM kit. :) > > I never use 3D programs as my professional world revolves around electrica l/field/SW simulation, but I know mechanicals are using programs like Pro-E a nd SolidWorks to do it. If we want to do simulation, do you or anyone else h ere know of a really good and cheap (free) 3D program? If not, how much does DraftSight 3D cost? > > I believe we had a CAD discussion about two months ago, but we didn't disc uss CAD simulation, or did we? > > Henador Titzoff > > > --- On Sun, 10/14/12, Harley wrote: > > From: Harley > Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > Date: Sunday, October 14, 2012, 4:55 AM > > Totally free...if you are satisfied with using only the 2D version, and ar e using it as an individual. If you want to use it in your business, or the 3 D version, you pay for it then. > > I've had it installed for over a year, and I'm still using it...it does as k you to "reactivate" it on occasion, but is just a single click to do so, n o additional information needed, and that doesn't interfere with any work yo u are doing. I assume it is just to be sure that you are still an individua l user. Besides having installed it on this desktop computer, I also have i t on my Windows 7 tablet computer, and have been using it there for a couple of months. > > Harley >> >> Harley, >> >> When I go to the Draftsight website you provide below, I see the headline : >> >> DraftSight: Professional-grade, free* CAD software >> >> Can you please tell me what the asterisk after "free" means? A lot of "f ree" programs usually mean 30 day free trial, free if you sign up for someth ing else, etc. I hesitate to sign up for this program until I get a better u nderstanding of what Dassault System's meaning of "free" is. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Henador Titzoff >> >> >> --- On Sun, 10/14/12, Harley wrote: >> >> From: Harley >> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings >> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com >> Date: Sunday, October 14, 2012, 3:47 AM >> >> I use Visual Cad, and that's not free, but you can use a full featured co py of it for 30 days without paying, if that's all you need. www.tritools. com/v6_demo.htm It does read some ACAD files, and they try to keep up with a ll the ACAD versions, but even Autocad can't read all of it's own versions. >> >> However, I have also been looking at Draftsight and find that it is a ver y good, free program. www.3ds.com/products/draftsight/download-draftsight/ >> >> It is very versatile, and I've found it an excellent program for my use, a nd, even though I haven't tried, it can read read and write ACAD (.dwg) file s >> Harley >> Hello group, >> >> I am in the final documentation phase of my LANCAIR 360 project and start ing >> to copy my handmade - electrical - drawings to the computer. Therefore I a m >> looking for a good tool and a free of charge CAD program probably compati ble >> with ACAD. >> >> Any hints recommendations are highly appreciated, >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Peter >> >> >> >> http://www.matronics.cofollow" target="_blank" href="http://forums.ma tronics.com">http://forum========= >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> 10/13/12 >> > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Ae="_blank" href="http://forums.mat ronics.com">http://forums.matronics.co > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:30:54 AM PST US From: Harley Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings Here's a reviwew on draftsight: http://www.jcopro.net/2010/12/29/draftsight-review-like-autocad-but-free/ On 10/14/2012 9:59 AM, Jan wrote: > DraftSight is 2D and free ... > > All the best > > Jan > > On Oct 14, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Henador Titzoff > > > wrote: > >> Thanks, Harley, I appreciate the info below. I was afraid >> Dassault was gonna hit me up to buy a Mirage OBAM kit. :) >> >> I never use 3D programs as my professional world revolves >> around electrical/field/SW simulation, but I know mechanicals >> are using programs like Pro-E and SolidWorks to do it. If we >> want to do simulation, do you or anyone else here know of a >> really good and cheap (free) 3D program? If not, how much does >> DraftSight 3D cost? >> >> I believe we had a CAD discussion about two months ago, but we >> didn't discuss CAD simulation, or did we? >> >> Henador Titzoff >> >> >> --- On *Sun, 10/14/12, Harley /> >/* wrote: >> >> >> From: Harley > > >> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings >> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com >> >> Date: Sunday, October 14, 2012, 4:55 AM >> >> Totally free...if you are satisfied with using only the 2D >> version, and are using it as an individual. If you want to >> use it in your business, or the 3D version, you pay for it >> then. >> >> I've had it installed for over a year, and I'm still using >> it...it does ask you to "reactivate" it on occasion, but >> is just a single click to do so, no additional information >> needed, and that doesn't interfere with any work you are >> doing. I assume it is just to be sure that you are still >> an individual user. Besides having installed it on this >> desktop computer, I also have it on my Windows 7 tablet >> computer, and have been using it there for a couple of months. >> >> Harley >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Harley, >>> >>> When I go to the Draftsight website you provide below, I >>> see the headline: >>> >>> DraftSight: Professional-grade, free* CAD software >>> >>> Can you please tell me what the asterisk after "free" >>> means? A lot of "free" programs usually mean 30 day free >>> trial, free if you sign up for something else, etc. I >>> hesitate to sign up for this program until I get a better >>> understanding of what Dassault System's meaning of "free" is. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Henador Titzoff >>> >>> >>> --- On *Sun, 10/14/12, Harley / >>> /* wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Harley >>> >>> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings >>> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com >>> >>> Date: Sunday, October 14, 2012, 3:47 AM >>> >>> I use Visual Cad, and that's not free, but you can >>> use a full featured copy of it for 30 days without >>> paying, if that's all you need. >>> www.tritools.com/v6_demo.htm >>> It does read >>> some ACAD files, and they try to keep up with all the >>> ACAD versions, but even Autocad can't read all of >>> it's own versions. >>> >>> However, I have also been looking at Draftsight and >>> find that it is a very good, free program. >>> www.3ds.com/products/draftsight/download-draftsight/ >>> >>> >>> It is very versatile, and I've found it an excellent >>> program for my use, and, even though I haven't tried, >>> it can read read and write ACAD (.dwg) files >>> >>> Harley >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Hello group, >>> >>> I am in the final documentation phase of my LANCAIR 360 project and starting >>> to copy my handmade - electrical - drawings to the computer. Therefore I am >>> looking for a good tool and a free of charge CAD program probably compatible >>> with ACAD. >>> >>> Any hints recommendations are highly appreciated, >>> >>> Thanks in advance, >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> >>> >>> *http://www.matronics.cofollow" target="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com" >http://forum========= >>> >>> * >>> >>> * >>> >>> >>> * >>> >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> 10/13/12 >>> >> >> *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Ae="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.co >> >> ================================== >> c-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List >> ================================== >> cs.com >> ================================== >> matronics.com/contribution >> ================================== >> >> * >> > * > > > * > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Date: 10/14/12 > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:42:08 AM PST US From: Harley Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings The 3D version of Draftsight is Solidworks...same company...they also offer a number of other services and programs that they charge for...but Draftsight is free. Harley ----------------------------------------------------------------- > DraftSight is 2D and free ... > > All the best > > Jan > > On Oct 14, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Henador Titzoff > > > wrote: > >> Thanks, Harley, I appreciate the info below. I was afraid >> Dassault was gonna hit me up to buy a Mirage OBAM kit. :) >> >> I never use 3D programs as my professional world revolves >> around electrical/field/SW simulation, but I know mechanicals >> are using programs like Pro-E and SolidWorks to do it. If we >> want to do simulation, do you or anyone else here know of a >> really good and cheap (free) 3D program? If not, how much does >> DraftSight 3D cost? >> >> I believe we had a CAD discussion about two months ago, but we >> didn't discuss CAD simulation, or did we? >> >> Henador Titzoff >> >> >> --- On *Sun, 10/14/12, Harley /> >/* wrote: >> >> >> From: Harley > > >> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings >> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com >> >> Date: Sunday, October 14, 2012, 4:55 AM >> >> Totally free...if you are satisfied with using only the 2D >> version, and are using it as an individual. If you want to >> use it in your business, or the 3D version, you pay for it >> then. >> >> I've had it installed for over a year, and I'm still using >> it...it does ask you to "reactivate" it on occasion, but >> is just a single click to do so, no additional information >> needed, and that doesn't interfere with any work you are >> doing. I assume it is just to be sure that you are still >> an individual user. Besides having installed it on this >> desktop computer, I also have it on my Windows 7 tablet >> computer, and have been using it there for a couple of months. >> >> Harley >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Harley, >>> >>> When I go to the Draftsight website you provide below, I >>> see the headline: >>> >>> DraftSight: Professional-grade, free* CAD software >>> >>> Can you please tell me what the asterisk after "free" >>> means? A lot of "free" programs usually mean 30 day free >>> trial, free if you sign up for something else, etc. I >>> hesitate to sign up for this program until I get a better >>> understanding of what Dassault System's meaning of "free" is. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Henador Titzoff >>> >>> >>> --- On *Sun, 10/14/12, Harley / >>> /* wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Harley >>> >>> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings >>> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com >>> >>> Date: Sunday, October 14, 2012, 3:47 AM >>> >>> I use Visual Cad, and that's not free, but you can >>> use a full featured copy of it for 30 days without >>> paying, if that's all you need. >>> www.tritools.com/v6_demo.htm >>> It does read >>> some ACAD files, and they try to keep up with all the >>> ACAD versions, but even Autocad can't read all of >>> it's own versions. >>> >>> However, I have also been looking at Draftsight and >>> find that it is a very good, free program. >>> www.3ds.com/products/draftsight/download-draftsight/ >>> >>> >>> It is very versatile, and I've found it an excellent >>> program for my use, and, even though I haven't tried, >>> it can read read and write ACAD (.dwg) files >>> >>> Harley >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Hello group, >>> >>> I am in the final documentation phase of my LANCAIR 360 project and starting >>> to copy my handmade - electrical - drawings to the computer. Therefore I am >>> looking for a good tool and a free of charge CAD program probably compatible >>> with ACAD. >>> >>> Any hints recommendations are highly appreciated, >>> >>> Thanks in advance, >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> >>> >>> *http://www.matronics.cofollow" target="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com" >http://forum========= >>> >>> * >>> >>> * >>> >>> >>> * >>> >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> 10/13/12 >>> >> >> *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Ae="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.co >> >> ================================== >> c-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List >> ================================== >> cs.com >> ================================== >> matronics.com/contribution >> ================================== >> >> * >> > * > > > * > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Date: 10/14/12 > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:08:36 AM PST US From: Henador Titzoff Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings Bob, nanoCAD sounds like a pretty good product, but I went to their website and noticed it's out of the Russian Federation. I'm not the kind of guy that de means foreign products unless I have a very good reason, which also applies to domestic products. I'm leery about anything that comes out of Russia an d China now, because their governments do not hold anyone's feet to the fir e when it comes to shenanigans. -I know that much malware comes out of th ese two countries, and there's not much we can do about it. It's entirely p ossible that nanoCAD might get compromised by hackers and deliver us a prod uct we don't like. After the demise of the USSR, there were many talented p rogrammers left behind without jobs. -Many of them migrated out to Israel and Western countries to find good paying jobs, but many of them stayed be hind to work real jobs and some became hackers. This is why I would rather go with DraftSight and not nanoCAD. nanoCAD is comprised of a bunch of developers, and not telling what anyone of them will do. If this sounds xenophobic, rest assured it's not, because I don't think Das sault is loaded up with hackers. -I just don't trust loose organizations from Russia, China, Iran and other countries whose governments don't have t he legal framework to take someone to jail or court if a foreigner gets att acked in cyberspace. -Do you have such feelings about nanoCAD, or do you trust them wholeheartedly? Henador Titzoff --- On Sun, 10/14/12, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote: From: Robert L. Nuckolls, III Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings s.bob@aeroelectric.com> At 04:02 AM 10/14/2012, you wrote: lemail.com> Hello group, I am in the final documentation phase of my LANCAIR 360 project and startin g to copy my handmade - electrical - drawings to the computer. Therefore I am looking for a good tool and a free of charge CAD program probably compatibl e with ACAD. Any hints recommendations are highly appreciated, Thanks in advance, - Suggest you look at NanoCAD http://tinyurl.com/9yl3ug5 - It's free =AND= is 95%+ clone of AutoCAD - in appearance and command structure. It will - open, edit, save and print all of the AutoCAD - drawings on my website. http://tinyurl.com/385dhl - Bob . . . le, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:51:43 AM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: lighting Hi/Lo and Dimmer - what are they? From: Tim Andres It can be a simple 14 V tap from your NAV lights, or it can be a variable vo ltage from a dimmer. You select it in setup for what ever you have to use, 5 , 14, 28 etc. or PHOTO to just use the internal sensor. And you can control t he knobs and display separately. I'm not sure but I don't think it will foll ow a PWM dimmer. Section 5.3.7 in the "W" manual. Tim Sent from my iPad On Oct 14, 2012, at 4:41 AM, Sacha wrote: > Thanks Tim, I have the install manuals but what is a light bus exactly? A v ariable 0-14v supply? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 14, 2012, at 7:54, Tim Andres wrote: > >> One the 430 what the device is expecting on those pins is configured in t he setup menu. But you can have it follow a light bus (on/off/dim) or use th e built in eye to automatically dim the display, buttons and knobs. >> Sounds like you need a copy of the install manuals. I believe you can dow nload them from Garmin. >> >> Tim >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Oct 13, 2012, at 9:11 PM, a a wrote: >> >>> Greetings, >>> A couple of my avionics (GNS430, GMA240 and KI-209 specifically) have pi ns labelled "Dimmer" and "Lighting Hi/Lo". >>> I'm wondering what the device expects on these pins and havent been able to find out anywhere on the web. I'm thinking Dimmer must be some kind of w ay of variying the input voltage to vary the brightness of the display and L ighting Hi/Lo is just +14V/GND. Does anyone know? >>> Sacha >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> lectric-List"">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List >> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> //forums.matronics.com >> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> ot;">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:49:09 AM PST US From: Jeff Page Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: lighting Hi/Lo and Dimmer - what are they? Sacha, 430W P4001 pins 39 and 40 are for lighting. Pin 39 is connected to the dimmed lamp voltage and pin 40 to ground. The Main Lighting configuration page selects whether that dimmed lamp voltage is a maximum of 28V, 14V or 5V. You also have the choice of auto dimming with ambient light conditions. Connect the dimmer voltage even if you don't plan to use it. Unfortunately, that was not done on my Cessna. The overhead red lamp that illuminates the instrument panel affects the 430Ws idea of the conditions, so the autodim function works very poorly. There is a complicated configuration to match the rate of dimming that helps. Let me know if you can't find a copy of the 430W installation manual. I have rev G and can email it to you off list. Or perhaps, Bob, do you want to put it in your archives ? Jeff Page Dream Aircraft Tundra #10 > A couple of my avionics (GNS430, GMA240 and KI-209 specifically) have pins > labelled "Dimmer" and "Lighting Hi/Lo". > I'm wondering what the device expects on these pins and havent been able > to find out anywhere on the web. I'm thinking Dimmer must be some kind of > way of variying the input voltage to vary the brightness of the display and > Lighting Hi/Lo is just +14V/GND. Does anyone know? > Sacha ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:30:24 AM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: lighting Hi/Lo and Dimmer - what are they? From: U Tim and Jeff, thanks a lot for your replies. For the moment (as i dont have a variable voltage supply) I'll just hook up the lighting bus to +14 volts and use the auto dimming function on the GNS430. What about the King KI-209 "Dimmer" pin? Is your understanding that is also meant to be connected to a variable voltage supply? They don't mention anything about it in the manual so its a "standard" thing. Since the current consumption is low, I suppose I could build a variable voltage supply by simply putting a variable resistor in series with the Dimmer circuit. Does this sound like it would work? On 14/ott/2012, at 19:47, Jeff Page wrote: > > Sacha, > > 430W P4001 pins 39 and 40 are for lighting. Pin 39 is connected to the dimmed lamp voltage and pin 40 to ground. > The Main Lighting configuration page selects whether that dimmed lamp voltage is a maximum of 28V, 14V or 5V. You also have the choice of auto dimming with ambient light conditions. > > Connect the dimmer voltage even if you don't plan to use it. Unfortunately, that was not done on my Cessna. The overhead red lamp that illuminates the instrument panel affects the 430Ws idea of the conditions, so the autodim function works very poorly. > > There is a complicated configuration to match the rate of dimming that helps. > > Let me know if you can't find a copy of the 430W installation manual. I have rev G and can email it to you off list. Or perhaps, Bob, do you want to put it in your archives ? > > Jeff Page > Dream Aircraft Tundra #10 > >> A couple of my avionics (GNS430, GMA240 and KI-209 specifically) have pins >> labelled "Dimmer" and "Lighting Hi/Lo". >> I'm wondering what the device expects on these pins and havent been able >> to find out anywhere on the web. I'm thinking Dimmer must be some kind of >> way of variying the input voltage to vary the brightness of the display and >> Lighting Hi/Lo is just +14V/GND. Does anyone know? >> Sacha > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 01:17:56 PM PST US From: Lynn Cole Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings Hi Hernador, For 3-D CAD I bought Cheetah3D for $99US about 3 weeks ago. It is a Mac only application, and I use it on a 27-inch iMac with OS X "Mountain Lion". Like most 3-D software it has a steep learning curve; you have to know a lot of things to do even simple renderings. It is extremely powerful and can do animations and linked motions of parts. BRL CAD is another 3-D application that can be used on Mac, Windows, Unix, Linux, and others. Its price (free) is right, but unless you like using a Unix-like interface it will be a frustrating experience. Its learning curve is even steeper than Cheetah3D's. ----- Lynn Cole LynnCole@foxvalley.net On Oct 14, 2012, at 8:53 AM, Henador Titzoff wrote: > Thanks, Harley, I appreciate the info below. I was afraid Dassault was gonna hit me up to buy a Mirage OBAM kit. :) > > I never use 3D programs as my professional world revolves around electrical/field/SW simulation, but I know mechanicals are using programs like Pro-E and SolidWorks to do it. If we want to do simulation, do you or anyone else here know of a really good and cheap (free) 3D program? If not, how much does DraftSight 3D cost? > > I believe we had a CAD discussion about two months ago, but we didn't discuss CAD simulation, or did we? > > Henador Titzoff > > > --- On Sun, 10/14/12, Harley wrote: > > From: Harley > Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > Date: Sunday, October 14, 2012, 4:55 AM > > Totally free...if you are satisfied with using only the 2D version, and are using it as an individual. If you want to use it in your business, or the 3D version, you pay for it then. > > I've had it installed for over a year, and I'm still using it...it does ask you to "reactivate" it on occasion, but is just a single click to do so, no additional information needed, and that doesn't interfere with any work you are doing. I assume it is just to be sure that you are still an individual user. Besides having installed it on this desktop computer, I also have it on my Windows 7 tablet computer, and have been using it there for a couple of months. > > Harley >> Harley, >> >> When I go to the Draftsight website you provide below, I see the headline: >> >> DraftSight: Professional-grade, free* CAD software >> >> Can you please tell me what the asterisk after "free" means? A lot of "free" programs usually mean 30 day free trial, free if you sign up for something else, etc. I hesitate to sign up for this program until I get a better understanding of what Dassault System's meaning of "free" is. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Henador Titzoff >> >> >> --- On Sun, 10/14/12, Harley wrote: >> >> From: Harley >> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings >> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com >> Date: Sunday, October 14, 2012, 3:47 AM >> >> I use Visual Cad, and that's not free, but you can use a full featured copy of it for 30 days without paying, if that's all you need. www.tritools.com/v6_demo.htm It does read some ACAD files, and they try to keep up with all the ACAD versions, but even Autocad can't read all of it's own versions. >> >> However, I have also been looking at Draftsight and find that it is a very good, free program. www.3ds.com/products/draftsight/download-draftsight/ >> >> It is very versatile, and I've found it an excellent program for my use, and, even though I haven't tried, it can read read and write ACAD (.dwg) files >> Harley >> Hello group, >> >> I am in the final documentation phase of my LANCAIR 360 project and starting >> to copy my handmade - electrical - drawings to the computer. Therefore I am >> looking for a good tool and a free of charge CAD program probably compatible >> with ACAD. >> >> Any hints recommendations are highly appreciated, >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Peter >> >> >> >> http://www.matronics.cofollow" target="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forum========= >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> 10/13/12 >> > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Ae="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.co > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 01:59:32 PM PST US From: "peter Sokolowski" Subject: AW: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings Thanks to all who have responded that fast and with really good suggestions. All the best, Peter -----Ursprngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von Robert L. Nuckolls, III Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. Oktober 2012 15:50 An: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com Betreff: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings --> Almost forgot . . . There's also a selection of page-per-system wirebook drawings you can download at: http://tinyurl.com/9a5n8jb If you're of the page=per=system persuasion, these drawings may well reduce your wiring documentation task by more than half. Many of the symbols are already in place for cut-n-paste. The view-per-page organization is already set up to let you document the whole project on one drawing while being able to print any combination of pages for the final document. -------------------------------------------------------------- At 04:02 AM 10/14/2012, you wrote: Hello group, I am in the final documentation phase of my LANCAIR 360 project and starting to copy my handmade - electrical - drawings to the computer. Therefore I am looking for a good tool and a free of charge CAD program probably compatible with ACAD. Any hints recommendations are highly appreciated, Thanks in advance, Suggest you look at NanoCAD http://tinyurl.com/9yl3ug5 It's free =AND= is 95%+ clone of AutoCAD in appearance and command structure. It will open, edit, save and print all of the AutoCAD drawings on my website. http://tinyurl.com/385dhl Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 02:38:11 PM PST US From: Henador Titzoff Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings Okay, thank you, Lynn. -I don't have Mac anywhere, but we do have Linux s tations here and there. -I'll check it out. Henador Titzoff --- On Sun, 10/14/12, Lynn Cole wrote: From: Lynn Cole Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings Hi Hernador,For 3-D CAD I bought Cheetah3D for $99US about 3 weeks ago. - It is a Mac only application, and I use it on a 27-inch iMac with OS X "Mou ntain Lion". -Like most 3-D software it has a steep learning curve; you h ave to know a lot of things to do even simple renderings. -It is extremel y powerful and can do animations and linked motions of parts. BRL CAD is another 3-D application that can be used on Mac, Windows, Unix, Linux, and others. -Its price (free) is right, but unless you like using a Unix-like interface it will be a frustrating experience. -Its learning curve is even steeper than Cheetah3D's. =0A----- Lynn Cole LynnCole@foxvalley.net =0A=0A On Oct 14, 2012, at 8:53 AM, Henador Titzoff wrote: Thanks, Harley, I appreciate the info below. I was afraid Dassault was gonn a hit me up to buy a Mirage OBAM kit. :) I never use 3D programs as my professional world revolves around electrical /field/SW simulation, but I know mechanicals are using programs like Pro-E and SolidWorks to do it. If we want to do simulation, do you or anyone else here know of a really good and cheap (free) 3D program? If not, how much d oes DraftSight 3D cost? I believe we had a CAD discussion about two months ago, but we didn't discu ss CAD simulation, or did we? Henador Titzoff --- On Sun, 10/14/12, Harley wrote: From: Harley Subject:=0A Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings =0A =0A=0A =0A =0A =0A Totally free...if you are satisfied with us ing only the 2D version,=0A and are using it as an individual. If you wa nt to use it in your=0A business, or the 3D version, you pay for it then . =0A =0A I've had it installed for over a year, and I'm still using it...it =0A does ask you to "reactivate" it on occasion, but is just a single=0A click to do so, no additional information needed, and that doesn't=0A interfere with any work you are doing.- I assume it is just to be=0A sure that you are still an individual user.- Besides having=0A instal led it on this desktop computer, I also have it on my Windows=0A 7 table t computer, and have been using it there for a couple of=0A months. =0A =0A Harley =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A Harley,=0A =0A =0A When I go to the Draftsight website you p rovide=0A below, I see the headline:=0A =0A =0A - -DraftSight: Professional-grade, fr ee* CAD software=0A =0A =0A Can you please tell me what the asterisk after "free"=0A means? -A lot of "free" programs usually m ean 30 day=0A free trial, free if you sign up for something else, etc.=0A I hesitate to sign up for this program until I get a=0A better understanding of what Dassault System's mea ning=0A of "free" is.=0A =0A =0A Thanks.=0A =0A =0A Henador Titzoff=0A =0A =0A --- On Sun, 10/14/12, Harley =0A wrote: =0A =0A From: Harley =0A Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings =0A To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com =0A Date: Sunday, October 14, 2012, 3:47 AM =0A =0A =0A I use Visual Cad, and that's n ot free, but you=0A can use a full featured copy of it for 30 days=0A without paying,- if that's all you n eed.- www.tritools.com/v6_demo.htm=0A It does read s ome ACAD files, and they try to keep=0A up with all th e ACAD versions, but even Autocad=0A can't read all of it's own versions. =0A =0A However, I have also been looking at Draftsight=0A and find that it is a very good, free program. www.3d s.com/products/draftsight/download-draftsight/ =0A =0A It is very versatile, and I've found it an=0A excellent program for my use, and, even though I=0A haven't tried, it can read read and write ACAD=0A (.dwg) files=0A Harley=0A =0A Hello group,=0A=0AI am in the final documentat ion phase of my LANCAIR 360 project and starting=0Ato copy my handmade - el ectrical - drawings to the computer. Therefore I am=0Alooking for a good to ol and a free of charge CAD program probably compatible=0Awith ACAD.=0A=0AA ny hints recommendations are highly appreciated,=0A=0AThanks in advance,=0A =0APeter=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A http://www.matronics.cofollow" target="_blank" h ref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forum========= ==0A=0A=0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A=0ANo virus=0A found in this message. =0A Checked by AVG - www.avg.com =0A 10/13/12=0A =0A =0A =0A=0A=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Ae="_blank" href="http ://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.co =0A=0Ahref="http://ww w.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navig ator?AeroElectric-List=0Ahref="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://forum s.matronics.com=0Ahref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www .matronics.com/contribution=0A=0A =======================0A=0A ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 06:40:00 PM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings > Do you have such feelings about nanoCAD, or do you trust them > wholeheartedly? I've had it installed for about 6 months and have used it perhaps a dozen times. It's been scanned by three different malware sniffer/cleaners on my computers. A review of this link http://tinyurl.com/94qwf3s suggests that numerous scans by experts have discovered no features of concern. The program is also in the download catalog of numerous software archive sites who also assert the software to be clean. I believe the risk to be vanishingly small . . . Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 07:06:47 PM PST US From: Jan Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings DraftSight is backed by a world class company - and its free - and its total ly AutoCAD compatible - at least for your day to day 2D drafting stuff The 3D stuff done by Dassault is SolidWork ... or Catia ... both are high en d stuff ..Catia more so - I would trust the French over the Russians any day :-) ... no offence to anyone Russians !! I am sure the Nano stuff may be perfectly ok ... of Bob is using it ... Reme mber that DS is a relatively new offering from Dassault ... I suppose they l ike to hook you early ... give you 2D for free ... then you migrate to SW .. . or the very big league ... Catia ... All the best Jan On Oct 14, 2012, at 11:07 PM, Henador Titzoff wr ote: > > Bob, > > nanoCAD sounds like a pretty good product, but I went to their website and noticed it's out of the Russian Federation. I'm not the kind of guy that de means foreign products unless I have a very good reason, which also applies t o domestic products. I'm leery about anything that comes out of Russia and C hina now, because their governments do not hold anyone's feet to the fire wh en it comes to shenanigans. I know that much malware comes out of these two countries, and there's not much we can do about it. It's entirely possible t hat nanoCAD might get compromised by hackers and deliver us a product we don 't like. After the demise of the USSR, there were many talented programmers l eft behind without jobs. Many of them migrated out to Israel and Western co untries to find good paying jobs, but many of them stayed behind to work rea l jobs and some became hackers. This is why I would rather go with DraftSigh t and not nanoCAD. nanoCAD is comprised of a bunch of developers, and not te lling what anyone of them will do. > > If this sounds xenophobic, rest assured it's not, because I don't think Da ssault is loaded up with hackers. I just don't trust loose organizations fr om Russia, China, Iran and other countries whose governments don't have the l egal framework to take someone to jail or court if a foreigner gets attacked in cyberspace. Do you have such feelings about nanoCAD, or do you trust th em wholeheartedly? > > Henador Titzoff > > > --- On Sun, 10/14/12, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote: > > From: Robert L. Nuckolls, III > Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > Date: Sunday, October 14, 2012, 6:44 AM > ls.bob@aeroelectric.com> > > At 04:02 AM 10/14/2012, you wrote: glemail.com> > > Hello group, > > I am in the final documentation phase of my LANCAIR 360 project and starti ng > to copy my handmade - electrical - drawings to the computer. Therefore I a m > looking for a good tool and a free of charge CAD program probably compatib le > with ACAD. > > Any hints recommendations are highly appreciated, > > Thanks in advance, > > Suggest you look at NanoCAD > > http://tinyurl.com/9yl3ug5 > > It's free =AND= is 95%+ clone of AutoCAD > in appearance and command structure. It will > open, edit, save and print all of the AutoCAD > drawings on my website. > > http://tinyurl.com/385dhl > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List --> > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 08:40:01 PM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: lighting Hi/Lo and Dimmer - what are they? From: Jared Yates Does anyone have an example of the type of dimmer that would be up to this task? On Oct 14, 2012, at 13:47, Jeff Page wrote: > > Sacha, > > 430W P4001 pins 39 and 40 are for lighting. Pin 39 is connected to the dimmed lamp voltage and pin 40 to ground. > The Main Lighting configuration page selects whether that dimmed lamp voltage is a maximum of 28V, 14V or 5V. You also have the choice of auto dimming with ambient light conditions. > > Connect the dimmer voltage even if you don't plan to use it. Unfortunately, that was not done on my Cessna. The overhead red lamp that illuminates the instrument panel affects the 430Ws idea of the conditions, so the autodim function works very poorly. > > There is a complicated configuration to match the rate of dimming that helps. > > Let me know if you can't find a copy of the 430W installation manual. I have rev G and can email it to you off list. Or perhaps, Bob, do you want to put it in your archives ? > > Jeff Page > Dream Aircraft Tundra #10 > >> A couple of my avionics (GNS430, GMA240 and KI-209 specifically) have pins >> labelled "Dimmer" and "Lighting Hi/Lo". >> I'm wondering what the device expects on these pins and havent been able >> to find out anywhere on the web. I'm thinking Dimmer must be some kind of >> way of variying the input voltage to vary the brightness of the display and >> Lighting Hi/Lo is just +14V/GND. Does anyone know? >> Sacha > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message aeroelectric-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.