---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 10/17/12: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:53 AM - SWR meter(s) NAV/COM/DME/TPD (Peter Mather) 2. 06:57 AM - Re: Re: Making a LED landing light flash (Fisher Paul A.) 3. 07:42 AM - Re: Re: Making a LED landing light flash (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 4. 11:04 AM - Re: CAD drawings (William DeLacey) 5. 12:41 PM - Re: SWR meter(s) NAV/COM/DME/TPD (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 6. 03:00 PM - Re: Re: CAD drawings (Peter Pengilly) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:53:51 AM PST US From: "Peter Mather" Subject: AeroElectric-List: SWR meter(s) NAV/COM/DME/TPD Bob Can you recommend one or more SWR meters that between them can cover the full range of avionics antenna. I'm looking for units that generate the signal themselves Thanks Peter ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:57:17 AM PST US From: "Fisher Paul A." Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Re: Making a LED landing light flash Thanks Bob. I'll take a look and see if I can incorporate a 3-flash on cycle for the transition of the wig-wag into Greg's software and get it back to the group. Should be an interesting project! - Paul -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert L. Nuckolls, III Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 1:28 PM Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Re: Making a LED landing light flash --> At 12:24 PM 10/16/2012, you wrote: > > >I'm glad to hear the wig-wag project isn't on the back burner. I >tried, unsuccessfully, to get involved back in May/June but apparently >higher priority projects moved in. I'd still be interested once you >get that 36 hour day thing figured out! ;-) Oh yeah, you asked for a board. I can send you one along with a copy of Greg's present handiwork. Shoot me an address again. How's your stock of 1206 SMD parts? I can probably put sort of a 'kit' together. Have you downloaded the latest data package? http://tinyurl.com/6w9vndk Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:42:17 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Re: Making a LED landing light flash At 08:56 AM 10/17/2012, you wrote: > > >Thanks Bob. I'll take a look and see if I can incorporate a 3-flash >on cycle for the transition of the wig-wag into Greg's software and >get it back to the group. Should be an interesting project! I think so. One of the things I miss most about being 'retired' is that it's more like being 'isolated'. Most of the jobs I've held came with a certain population of curious minds who were also great 'connectors of dots' . . . they could sit around a table and play 'pass the idea' . . . each trip around the loop would produce clearer insight and/or interesting alternatives to the task before us. While working in the Targets division at HBC, I sat in a bull-pen of cubicles occupied by such individuals. We overheard each other's conversations including phone calls. A GOOD thing especially when some eavesdropper had some interesting thought or fact to stir into the mix. You folks are my surrogate think tank. I'm enthusiastic about exploring these 'open source' projects. In terms of quality of outcome, it cannot be bad . . . and certainly much better than projects that grow up within narrow silos of talent and responsibility. When I've explained these experiments with some of my past colleagues, they often voice some skepticism about the 'business model'. Over the years, I've come to understand that product development is greatly separated from production and marketing of an idea. Further, just because an idea is fully disclosed doesn't mean that there is an increased risk to individuals who decide to produce and market those ideas. Most of the folks on the List have no interest in producing and marketing anything. They're interested in acquiring certain capabilities, of good value, off the shelf with track record and warranty. If competing production and marketing efforts arise from an idea, it's a good thing. Carrying these activities forward in the open source, open forum environment goes a long way toward informing potential customers and demonstrating track records. But for some, it's not about production/marketing. It's all about an intellectual 'buzz' that rises from a successful recipe of of simple ideas. During my brief stint in television broadcast, I was tasked with producing and marketing a video time base corrector. The thing was designed by a very clever fellow who was deprived of the 'think tank' refinement tools that I've learned to value. I was forced into learning video in a big hurry so that I could sift out the little bugs and production snags in the design. Support from the original designer was disappointing. He'd seen it work once and was off on other ideas. He ultimately went to work for Heathkit, the IDEAL environment for his talent and motivations. He was immersed in an organization of very capable production and marketing folks who could maximize the exploitation of his unique talents. I'd like to believe that the List membership includes the whole spectrum of talents, personalities and life-goals willing to contribute to the life cycle of interesting and useful products. We shall see. Thanks for participating . . . any many thanks to those who have participated thus far. Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:04:07 AM PST US From: William DeLacey Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings I have been following this thread. I have my panel schematic In a both .cdr and .pdf files as provided by my panel fabricator. Is there a simple to use CAD program that I can use to add color coding and wire gages to the existing drawing? I am willing to buy a reasonable priced program, but don't want to spend a lot of time learning to run a complete cad system. Thanks. On Oct 16, 2012, at 2:36 PM, Henador Titzoff wrote: > If DraftSight is Solidworks younger brother, I'm just trying to figure out why they couldn't call it something closer to home, like StolidWorks. > > Henador Titzoff > > --- On Sun, 10/14/12, Jan wrote: > > From: Jan > Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings > To: "" > Date: Sunday, October 14, 2012, 7:04 PM > > DraftSight is backed by a world class company - and its free - and its totally AutoCAD compatible - at least for your day to day 2D drafting stuff > > The 3D stuff done by Dassault is SolidWork ... or Catia ... both are high end stuff ..Catia more so - I would trust the French over the Russians any day :-) ... no offence to anyone Russians !! > > I am sure the Nano stuff may be perfectly ok ... of Bob is using it ... Remember that DS is a relatively new offering from Dassault ... I suppose they like to hook you early ... give you 2D for free ... then you migrate to SW ... or the very big league ... Catia ... > > All the best > > Jan > > On Oct 14, 2012, at 11:07 PM, Henador Titzoff wrote: > >> Bob, >> >> nanoCAD sounds like a pretty good product, but I went to their website and noticed it's out of the Russian Federation. I'm not the kind of guy that demeans foreign products unless I have a very good reason, which also applies to domestic products. I'm leery about anything that comes out of Russia and China now, because their governments do not hold anyone's feet to the fire when it comes to shenanigans. I know that much malware comes out of these two countries, and there's not much we can do about it. It's entirely possible that nanoCAD might get compromised by hackers and deliver us a product we don't like. After the demise of the USSR, there were many talented programmers left behind without jobs. Many of them migrated out to Israel and Western countries to find good paying jobs, but many of them stayed behind to work real jobs and some became hackers. This is why I would rather go with DraftSight and not nanoCAD. nanoCAD is comprised of a bunch of developers, and not telling what anyone of them will do. >> >> If this sounds xenophobic, rest assured it's not, because I don't think Dassault is loaded up with hackers. I just don't trust loose organizations from Russia, China, Iran and other countries whose governments don't have the legal framework to take someone to jail or court if a foreigner gets attacked in cyberspace. Do you have such feelings about nanoCAD, or do you trust them wholeheartedly? >> >> Henador Titzoff >> >> >> --- On Sun, 10/14/12, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote: >> >> From: Robert L. Nuckolls, III >> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CAD drawings >> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com >> Date: Sunday, October 14, 2012, 6:44 AM >> >> >> At 04:02 AM 10/14/2012, you wrote: >> >> Hello group, >> >> I am in the final documentation phase of my LANCAIR 360 project and starting >> to copy my handmade - electrical - drawings to the computer. Therefore I am >> looking for a good tool and a free of charge CAD program probably compatible >> with ACAD. >> >> Any hints recommendations are highly appreciated, >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Suggest you look at NanoCAD >> >> http://tinyurl.com/9yl3ug5 >> >> It's free =AND= is 95%+ clone of AutoCAD >> in appearance and command structure. It will >> open, edit, save and print all of the AutoCAD >> drawings on my website. >> >> http://tinyurl.com/385dhl >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List --> >> >> >> >> >> ======================== >> st">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List >> ======================== >> cs.com >> ========= >> matronics.com/contribution >> ========= >> > http://www.matronics.com/Nav=============== ======== > " target="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matr --> > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:41:14 PM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: SWR meter(s) NAV/COM/DME/TPD At 07:52 AM 10/17/2012, you wrote: Bob Can you recommend one or more SWR meters that between them can cover the full range of avionics antenna. I'm looking for units that generate the signal themselves Thanks Peter Hmmmm . . . that's a broad range of test equipment. Further, it covers frequencies outside those of amateur radio/experimenters interests. The MFJ259/266 are the gold standards for antennas up to 175 MHz (and 400 MHz; MFJ266). Single devices that cover the full range of interest are $kilo$ pieces of equipment. Probably the least expensive approach is a Bird 43 watt meter with appropriate elements driven by an RF power oscillator or signal generator/amplifier. I used to have a 3 watt broadband amplifier that would drive from my HP generator. I had a few 1 watt elements for the B43. This combination allowed some economical look-see experiments with antennas in the VHF/UHF domains. The amplifier died some years ago and I never did get it fixed. Are you looking to build some antennas or just troublehoot? Antennas that ever worked are generally pretty robust and unlikely to benefit from any sort of 'testing'. Feedline connectors are the most likely source of problems with antennas in service. Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:00:08 PM PST US From: Peter Pengilly Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: CAD drawings I've just downloaded Draftsight and started using it very quickly (for mechanical drawings). Not much experience of other CAD packages, although I've used Visio quite a bit, but seems straight forward so far. Peter On 16/10/2012 16:40, Jeff Page wrote: > >> Ebay has full boxes of recent versions of TurboCAD or DesignCAD with >> manuals and disks and support and users forums AND FREE SHIPPING for >> $10. > > I opted for this and purchased TurboCAD Deluxe 15, which claimed > Windows 7 compatibility for close to the cost of shipping me the disc. > > I did manage to get it to install, but it was painful. > > One key was turing off Data Execution Prevention. Without this, the > program doesn't start at all, without any error message. > Start, Control Panel, System, Advanced system settings, Performance > settings, Data Execution Prevention. Click add and browse to TCW15.exe > > In spite of choosing options to install the symbols, it installed them > so they would be referenced off the CD. I had to manually copy the > files and then mess around with the configuration to set the paths to > find them. Even so, I suspect I will need to search the web for > additional libraries to get symbols I want. > > There are two upgrade patches available on the web site. Neither > install. The installer claims it cannot find the original program to > modify. No Google results on this problem. > > Registration was required to activate it. They made it look like your > email address was required. I usually prefer to remain confidential > and provide bogus information to such requests. In this case, the > registration code was provided on-screen, so a bogus email would have > worked. > > Now that it is installed, all I need to do is learn how to use it ;-) > > Jeff Page > Dream Aircraft Tundra #10 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message aeroelectric-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.