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1. 05:52 AM - Re: Soldering Iron Recommendations (Eric M. Jones)
2. 06:21 AM - Re: A200/Flightcom 403 radio not transmitting- plane grounded!!! (Jeff B.)
3. 06:29 AM - Re: Re: Soldering Iron Recommendations (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
4. 06:59 AM - Re: Soldering Iron Recommendations (Eric M. Jones)
5. 06:59 AM - Re: Please Make A Contribution Today! (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
6. 07:02 AM - Re: Re: Soldering Iron Recommendations (Tim Olson)
7. 07:18 AM - Sub-standard Charging ()
8. 07:21 AM - Re: Soldering Iron Recommendations (Eric M. Jones)
9. 07:32 AM - Re: Sub-standard Charging (Robert Borger)
10. 08:42 AM - Re: Re: Soldering Iron Recommendations (Charlie England)
11. 09:01 AM - Re: radio interference? (thomas sargent)
12. 09:21 AM - Re: Re: Soldering Iron Recommendations (rayj)
13. 09:48 AM - Re: Re: Soldering Iron Recommendations (Bill Bradburry)
14. 10:51 AM - Re: Re: Soldering Iron Recommendations (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
15. 10:52 AM - Re: Re: Soldering Iron Recommendations (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
16. 11:04 AM - Re: Re: Soldering Iron Recommendations (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
17. 12:20 PM - Re: Re: Soldering Iron Recommendations (rayj)
18. 12:20 PM - Re: A200/Flightcom 403 radio not transmitting- plane grounded!! (SIDESLIP)
19. 12:48 PM - Re: Re: Soldering Iron Recommendations (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
20. 01:05 PM - Re: Sub-standard Charging (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
21. 01:06 PM - Re: Sub-standard Charging (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
22. 01:23 PM - Re: DIY GPS notch filter (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
23. 01:25 PM - Re: Re: Soldering Iron Recommendations (Eric Page)
24. 01:34 PM - Re: Re: Soldering Iron Recommendations (Dj Merrill)
25. 01:51 PM - Re: Re: Soldering Iron Recommendations (chris smale)
26. 02:05 PM - Re: Soldering Iron Recommendations (Jared Yates)
27. 02:16 PM - Re: Re: Soldering Iron Recommendations (rayj)
28. 03:37 PM - Re: Sub-standard Charging (Ed Holyoke)
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| Subject: | Re: Soldering Iron Recommendations |
Bob has mentioned and recommended the METCAL soldering iron for years, and I have
to say I never quite "got it" until my last soldering iron died and I bought
a Metcal on Ebay.
Now what on God's Green Earth would make a soldering iron worth over $800 (new)?
Especially when the tips are $30 each. It has no temperature control. If it
had an instruction manual, I haven't ever seen it. What's so special?
Well, let me tell you brothers and sisters....If you do electronic soldering, buy
a Metcal today. Log onto Ebay and get one cheap. When you first use it, you
will ask yourself, "This is NUTS! Why the Hell did I ever use anything else?
Why didn't someone tell me about this thing?"
I bought one on Ebay for $100, and I also bought one (a complete repair station
with the soldering and desoldering stuff...brand new, with tips, for $47 on ShopGoodwill.com),
but deals like that don't come up very often.
Here's what makes Metcal the Cat's-Meow of the soldering world:
1) They have NO MANUAL TEMPERATURE CONTROL AT ALL. NONE.
2) The tips are as long as a pencil and simply push in. No locking collars to tighted
or loosen. An added bonus is that the tips can be changed when hot. They
have a silicone hot-mitt on the cord with which you can grab the hot tip. This
makes me smile. They thought of EVERYTHING.
3) They have a hefty low-voltage power supply that heats (and automatically adjusts)
whatever tip you're using almost instantly.
4) When you aren't using it, it goes into a quiescent mode automatically.
5) The cord is silicone and as limp as can be.
6) They thought of everything....It is just heart-touching how much the designers
cared about this thing...and it shows.
You can buy these used on Ebay for a couple hundred or less. You need the power
unit, the pencil, the tip and the holder. I like STTC-147 tips for my work. I
had a "personal shopper" notification set up on Ebay so that whenever one came
up I'd get an email. Now I have a lifetime supply.
Look...I know you think I'm a ragging lunatic for being so completely in love with
a soldering iron, but it's like the old joke:
Q: Metcal is by far the best soldering iron, so what's second-best?
A: There is no second best. Metcal is simply so good, there is nothing else in
the game.
--------
Eric M. Jones
www.PerihelionDesign.com
113 Brentwood Drive
Southbridge, MA 01550
(508) 764-2072
emjones(at)charter.net
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: A200/Flightcom 403 radio not transmitting- plane |
grounded!!!
Since you haven't received any help from other members, I'll try shooting
from the hip:
The quality of the headset shouldn't matter. This leads me to believe that
either you are seeing the headsets picking up RF in the cockpit, which
suggests an RF leakage issue in the cockpit, or there is some wacky
impedance issue with the headsets. The first is more likely, since
Flightcom usually makes pretty robust designs.
1. What do you mean by "flip send receive"? Is the antenna coax wired
through these switches, or just audio? Are they RF switches or just
regular DPDT switches? If the latter, and they are switching RF, I'd be
concerned. Switching VHF with DPDT switches might be possible, but
requires extreme care in connection and shielding.
2. Do you hear the squeal or just the tower?
3. Inspect all coax connections, check DC continuity with an ohmmeter.
Use or borrow an SWR meter and check the antenna connections while wiggling
the cables at the connectors.
4. Go through and check the wiring per Flightcom and Icom's instructions.
5. If everything looks ok, you might consider bypassing the intercom by
first disconnecting power from just the intercom (it should bypass audio
internally), and next using the shorting jumper they recommend in the
manual if issues persist.
6. Another thing to check is sidetone. Sidetone provides the comfort of
hearing your own voice when transmitting. If the squeal sounds like
feedback, make sure that sidetone is enabled on the radio and disabled on
the intercom.
Hope this helps and that I'm not steering you wrong.
-Jeff-
On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 7:19 PM, SIDESLIP <Chad2007@rogers.com> wrote:
>
> Hello all. Just purchased a Homebuilt Zodiac 601XL-B. Rotax 912ULS
> powered. A200 Radio, Flightcom 403 intercom. Aero flash strobes. The radio
> is intermittently squealing and tower cannot understand my transmissions.
> Tried both engine running and not running. Intermittent either way. When it
> is working, I get 5/5. When it begins squealing, 0/0. Previous owner said
> he had the same issue with cheaper headsets. Radio worked great, then it
> didn't. I'm using David Clark 13.2s's. The previous owner has a portable
> wired in as well, telling me that he's had issues in the past. There is a
> falcon T/B gyro, Garmin transponder and aero flash strobes. When the
> strobes are on, the pop of the flash comes thru headsets. I'm really stuck!
> Bought this plane, and now can't fly it! The rest of the plane is great,,
> ending runs PERFECT..... But this radio issue has me beat! HELLLP!
>
> Chad. :(
>
> Additional info..... There is a handheld wired into the system. It uses
> its own separate antenna, but there are two switches on centre console to
> flip send receive. I wonder if that wiring is causing the problems.
>
>
> Helllllp!
>
> --------
> C-GYXQ. 912ULS. 601XL-B
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=386788#386788
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Soldering Iron Recommendations |
At 07:50 AM 11/5/2012, you wrote:
>
>Bob has mentioned and recommended the METCAL soldering iron for
>years, and I have to say I never quite "got it" until my last
>soldering iron died and I bought a Metcal on Ebay.
<snip>
>Q: Metcal is by far the best soldering iron, so what's second-best?
>A: There is no second best. Metcal is simply so good, there is
>nothing else in the game.
I could not have said it better sir. I didn't know Metcal existed
until I went to work at Beech-before-Raytheon the first time
(about 1980). The techs in the Targets Division all had them.
Found out later that the assembly building on the 'square mile'
was totally Metcal. Had little chance for up close and personal
experience at first . . . lots of capable support that knew how to drive
soldering irons and place parts.
Over the years I gained a healthy respect for the sheer rugged
precision and flexibility that this tool offered. It's rather
un-assuming with a lack of dials, indicators and wires (that
wand cable is just shielded wire, the power supply is simply
a 30 watt, 500 Hkz 'transmitter').
Those who are students of the arts in this business will recall
great milestones in the history. The lead-acid battery leading
to modern SVLA, the engine driven alternator leading to Nipon
Dienso and stable mates, Klaus Savier's Light Speed products that
were the forerunners of E-mags . . . just to name a few. Now
a guy who soldered his hobby projects with a plumber's
copper heated on mom's stove owns three Metcal stations and has
outfitted all interested relatives with them.
Someone looking at a soldering tool for the first time cannot
know what thinking and processes went into its emergence
from the often chaotic evolution of what now appears to be ho-hum
technology. And my grand kids will never write their first chapter
of a book on a Kaypro either. But I'm going to tell them about
it . . . while making sure that what ever version of Windows does
not pose unnecessary impediments!
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Soldering Iron Recommendations |
> Bob....the power supply is simply a..., 500 Hkz 'transmitter'
Bob,
Right you are. The new ones are even higher frequencies, ~13 MHz or so and 2X or
so the power. Surprises me.
--------
Eric M. Jones
www.PerihelionDesign.com
113 Brentwood Drive
Southbridge, MA 01550
(508) 764-2072
emjones(at)charter.net
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=386901#386901
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| Subject: | Re: Please Make A Contribution Today! |
At 02:14 AM 11/5/2012, you wrote:
>
>Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message
>acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to
>support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that
>took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists.
I will add my voice to this suggestion. It's
easy to enjoy the benefits of what's available to us
off-the-shelves at the corner mega-marts. It's
seldom that we give pause to learn and understand the
processes and tools that made it possible to reach out
and select from dozens of options.
This, and all civil societies, runs on talent, energy
and mobility. Mobility exploited by thousands of hands,
machines and transportation that figure into the
'infrastructure' that puts the boxes of Wheaties and
Pop Tarts on the shelves.
See "I pencil" http://tinyurl.com/36xkhq
Any break in that chain of time, talent and resources
at least interrupts if not totally halts flow of
that benefit. Matt's room full of byte-thrashers is
like the natural gas pumping station a few miles from
my house. If those pumps stop, who ever is expecting
the furnace to come on at the other end of the pipe
is at risk for reduced service and/or higher costs
for that service.
Matt's yearly endeavor to keep his pumps running is
a trivial burden on the members of the Lists
but of incalculable value to those who participate
on them. No donation is too small.
We go to a fly-in a willingly chuck a few bucks into
the coffee can at the drinks and donuts table, let's
chuck a few bucks into Matt's coffee can too. 50,000
pounds of value doesn't get to the shelves on time
if one 18-wheeler runs out of gas. The T-bytes of
data flow we all enjoy don't get from your keyboard
to the screens of others unless Matt pays the light
bill and strokes the machines to keep them happy.
No, $5 won't get you a free copy of the 'Connection
or a fuel sampler but it will go toward the assurance
that logging onto your favorite List will open
doors that you would be sorely missed should you find
that hitting the return key doesn't produce the
expected response.
$5 from every List customer on Matt's system will
go a very long way to keeping the byte-pumps running.
$More$ will go a long way to upgrading the size
and quality of the machines as the old ones get
long in the tooth. No matter what size of donation
you choose . . . please do it now . . .
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Soldering Iron Recommendations |
Eric (and anyone else),
Is there a chance that you or someone could offer up what would be a
good model of station to go with for someone who wants to do
general electronics/avionics work? I noted you said the STTC-147
tips. Just browsed eBay and saw there are many models.
I have 2 weller stations right now, and use the tiny point pencil
tips quite a bit. I don't really *need* a new station, but hey,
if they're as good as you say, I could be up for buying one.
I' probably get new though if possible.
Tim
On 11/5/2012 7:50 AM, Eric M. Jones wrote:
>
> Bob has mentioned and recommended the METCAL soldering iron for years, and I
have to say I never quite "got it" until my last soldering iron died and I bought
a Metcal on Ebay.
>
> Now what on God's Green Earth would make a soldering iron worth over $800 (new)?
Especially when the tips are $30 each. It has no temperature control. If it
had an instruction manual, I haven't ever seen it. What's so special?
>
> Well, let me tell you brothers and sisters....If you do electronic soldering,
buy a Metcal today. Log onto Ebay and get one cheap. When you first use it, you
will ask yourself, "This is NUTS! Why the Hell did I ever use anything else?
Why didn't someone tell me about this thing?"
>
> I bought one on Ebay for $100, and I also bought one (a complete repair station
with the soldering and desoldering stuff...brand new, with tips, for $47 on
ShopGoodwill.com), but deals like that don't come up very often.
>
> Here's what makes Metcal the Cat's-Meow of the soldering world:
>
> 1) They have NO MANUAL TEMPERATURE CONTROL AT ALL. NONE.
> 2) The tips are as long as a pencil and simply push in. No locking collars to
tighted or loosen. An added bonus is that the tips can be changed when hot. They
have a silicone hot-mitt on the cord with which you can grab the hot tip.
This makes me smile. They thought of EVERYTHING.
> 3) They have a hefty low-voltage power supply that heats (and automatically adjusts)
whatever tip you're using almost instantly.
> 4) When you aren't using it, it goes into a quiescent mode automatically.
> 5) The cord is silicone and as limp as can be.
> 6) They thought of everything....It is just heart-touching how much the designers
cared about this thing...and it shows.
>
> You can buy these used on Ebay for a couple hundred or less. You need the power
unit, the pencil, the tip and the holder. I like STTC-147 tips for my work.
I had a "personal shopper" notification set up on Ebay so that whenever one came
up I'd get an email. Now I have a lifetime supply.
>
> Look...I know you think I'm a ragging lunatic for being so completely in love
with a soldering iron, but it's like the old joke:
>
> Q: Metcal is by far the best soldering iron, so what's second-best?
> A: There is no second best. Metcal is simply so good, there is nothing else in
the game.
>
> --------
> Eric M. Jones
> www.PerihelionDesign.com
> 113 Brentwood Drive
> Southbridge, MA 01550
> (508) 764-2072
> emjones(at)charter.net
>
>
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| Subject: | Sub-standard Charging |
I have a Z-13/8 installation which charges between 12.5 and 12.9 since I've been
using it. After startup the system charges happily to that level and then simply
maintains it. I am trying to determine why the system stops charging at that
level. From what I have read I should be expecting 13.0+ for normal operations.
My B & C idiot light goes off at 13.0 so it too is constantly on. 12.5 doesn't
stop me from flying, but I would like to resolve. I have an 80 amp alternator
from Aerosport Power. Normal Load (5-30 amps) does not exceed capacity.
Suggestions or procedures or what to test much appreciated.
Thanks,
Glenn
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| Subject: | Re: Soldering Iron Recommendations |
I use an RFG-30. There is one on Ebay now for $20 with handpiece and tip including
shipping. Seller says the holder might be included.
ANY Metcal will do fine. The newer the more expensive. Again, you need the power
supply, the handpiece the holder and the tip.
--------
Eric M. Jones
www.PerihelionDesign.com
113 Brentwood Drive
Southbridge, MA 01550
(508) 764-2072
emjones(at)charter.net
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| Subject: | Re: Sub-standard Charging |
Glenn,
Thanks for the commentary. I have a similar situation with my Rotax 914, external
Denso alternator. Everything works but the charging voltage isn't high enough
to make the B&C voltage monitor light go out. Present normal load on the
system is less than 5 amps.
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.
rlborger@mac.com
On Nov 5, 2012, at 9:17 AM, longg@pjm.com wrote:
I have a Z-13/8 installation which charges between 12.5 and 12.9 since I've been
using it. After startup the system charges happily to that level and then simply
maintains it. I am trying to determine why the system stops charging at that
level. From what I have read I should be expecting 13.0+ for normal operations.
My B & C idiot light goes off at 13.0 so it too is constantly on. 12.5 doesn't
stop me from flying, but I would like to resolve. I have an 80 amp alternator
from Aerosport Power. Normal Load (5-30 amps) does not exceed capacity.
Suggestions or procedures or what to test much appreciated.
Thanks,
Glenn
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| Subject: | Re: Soldering Iron Recommendations |
On 11/05/2012 08:30 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
> <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
>
> At 07:50 AM 11/5/2012, you wrote:
>> <emjones@charter.net>
>>
>> Bob has mentioned and recommended the METCAL soldering iron for
>> years, and I have to say I never quite "got it" until my last
>> soldering iron died and I bought a Metcal on Ebay.
>
> <snip>
>
>> Q: Metcal is by far the best soldering iron, so what's second-best?
>> A: There is no second best. Metcal is simply so good, there is
>> nothing else in the game.
>
> I could not have said it better sir. I didn't know Metcal existed
> until I went to work at Beech-before-Raytheon the first time
> (about 1980). The techs in the Targets Division all had them.
> Found out later that the assembly building on the 'square mile'
> was totally Metcal. Had little chance for up close and personal
> experience at first . . . lots of capable support that knew how to
> drive
> soldering irons and place parts.
>
> Over the years I gained a healthy respect for the sheer rugged
> precision and flexibility that this tool offered. It's rather
> un-assuming with a lack of dials, indicators and wires (that
> wand cable is just shielded wire, the power supply is simply
> a 30 watt, 500 Hkz 'transmitter').
>
> Those who are students of the arts in this business will recall
> great milestones in the history. The lead-acid battery leading
> to modern SVLA, the engine driven alternator leading to Nipon
> Dienso and stable mates, Klaus Savier's Light Speed products that
> were the forerunners of E-mags . . . just to name a few. Now
> a guy who soldered his hobby projects with a plumber's
> copper heated on mom's stove owns three Metcal stations and has
> outfitted all interested relatives with them.
>
> Someone looking at a soldering tool for the first time cannot
> know what thinking and processes went into its emergence
> from the often chaotic evolution of what now appears to be ho-hum
> technology. And my grand kids will never write their first chapter
> of a book on a Kaypro either. But I'm going to tell them about
> it . . . while making sure that what ever version of Windows does
> not pose unnecessary impediments!
>
>
> Bob . . .
Kaypro?? Go to the real beginning: Osborne One. :-)
(wish I still had mine, for my museum collection...)
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| Subject: | Re: radio interference? |
Bob:
The radio problem has been resolved. Experimenting with the leads going to
the Magnetos revealed the issue. When the wires were originally stripped
and had terminals crimped, too much shielding was cut away. There was
about 4 inches of unshielded wire. When that stretch of unshielded wire was
reduced to a minimum, the radio worked normally (also the old 90 deg. bend
antenna was replaced with a straight one).
This explanation surprised me because the description of the problem didn't
sound like ignition noise. The only thing I can think of is that the
modern (probably digital) squelch circuitry in the ICOM radio was
interacting with this interference to make it sound different than a
simple, analog squelch circuit would. I'm guessing these com radios
nowadays are mostly digital inside and you end up hearing what the digital
signal processor computer thinks is there. It can confuse us old geezers
who are used to simple analog stuff.
Anyway, thanks for your suggestions (he had tried different headsets, BTW).
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 8:06 AM, thomas sargent <sarg314@gmail.com> wrote:
> Bob:
> I'll have to check for sure, but I think the hand held was on its own
> antenna and not connected into the plane's antenna. Switching headsets is
> a good suggestion. I'll tell him about that.
>
> I agree that his description of the noise doesn't sound like ignition
> noise. It's like another radio is is squashing the signal somehow. I
> can't figure how the ICOM could do that to itself and still check out on
> the bench, though. Weird.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions.
>
> --
> Tom Sargent
>
--
Tom Sargent
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| Subject: | Re: Soldering Iron Recommendations |
On 11/05/2012 08:30 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
SNIP
>
>
> Someone looking at a soldering tool for the first time cannot
> know what thinking and processes went into its emergence
> from the often chaotic evolution of what now appears to be ho-hum
> technology. And my grand kids will never write their first chapter
> of a book on a Kaypro either. But I'm going to tell them about
> it . . . while making sure that what ever version of Windows does
> not pose unnecessary impediments!
>
If you want to avoid Windows' unnecessary impediments, avoid Windows!!!
The future is open source.
do not archive
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.
"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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| Subject: | Re: Soldering Iron Recommendations |
So what do you suggest to replace windows??
I have Vista. It sucks big time! Same with Office 2003. I had planned to
go with Windows 7, but I saw that my son also has problems with that.
I am open to good suggestions.
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rayj
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Soldering Iron Recommendations
On 11/05/2012 08:30 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
SNIP
>
>
> Someone looking at a soldering tool for the first time cannot
> know what thinking and processes went into its emergence
> from the often chaotic evolution of what now appears to be ho-hum
> technology. And my grand kids will never write their first chapter
> of a book on a Kaypro either. But I'm going to tell them about
> it . . . while making sure that what ever version of Windows does
> not pose unnecessary impediments!
>
If you want to avoid Windows' unnecessary impediments, avoid Windows!!!
The future is open source.
do not archive
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.
"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
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>Kaypro?? Go to the real beginning: Osborne One. :-)
>(wish I still had mine, for my museum collection...)
Hmmm . . . we could go back further still
and consider the seedling efforts of PARC
where they were playing with multi-tasking,
windows-like desk tops, etc. etc. I think "Lisa"
was their first table-top computer that offered
consumer-friendly features. Rumor has it that
a lot of features that turned up on original offering
of Microsoft and Apple had genesis in visits by
Jobs and Gates to the PARC facility at 1980 Porter
drive . . .
I learned to do 6800/6500 assembler on the AIM-65.
Emacs!
A couple years later that a Kaypro II offered formatted
printout of spell-checked word processing. The first chapters
of the 'Connection were done on the Kaypro but ported
to a XP running WordStar before it got printed. The camera
ready two-column printout was done on a daisy-wheel printer!
Bob . . .
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>If you want to avoid Windows' unnecessary impediments, avoid
>Windows!!! The future is open source.
Sure. But in terms of cost/performance ratio
for neophyte friendly computing, Windows/Apple still
commands the market. Robust competition cannot be
anything but good. Example: MicroCAD
Bob . . .
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At 11:47 AM 11/5/2012, you wrote:
><bbradburry@bellsouth.net>
>
>So what do you suggest to replace windows??
Until just recently, every computer in the house (7) runs
XP_SP3. Just bought Dr. Dee a dual processor, 64 bit work
station and installed Win7. She's been running Win7 for
a couple years on the company provided laptop with good
results. So far, the new Win7 machine has been stable
. . . and fast.
I think a lot of 'trouble' folks are having with various
combinations of hardware/system/application have to do
with inadvertent log-jams and changes to configuration.
Ever so often, I do a Ghost Restore on my grand-kid's computers
when the onslaught of interesting downloads and inadvertent
infections of malware reduce the computer to a pile of
frozen transistors and hard-drives.
I generally avoid any upgrade of operating system until it's
up to Service Pack 2 . . . XP has been VERY stable compared
to it's predecessors. Skipped Vista entirely. Experience
with Win7 has yet to give rise to trepidation.
My comment about Windows was more tongue in cheek than
any suggestion of complaint. I've produced tens of thousands
of hours of work product on PC-Dos/Windows machines for which
my boss/customers have compensated me well. I'm not looking
to abandon Uncle Bill soon . . .
Bob . . .
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Linux Ubuntu is popular for average users. Any Linux/Unix type operating
system offers freedom from the whims of either Microsoft or Apple.
See: http://www.ubuntu.com/
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.
"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
On 11/05/2012 11:47 AM, Bill Bradburry wrote:
>
> So what do you suggest to replace windows??
>
> I have Vista. It sucks big time! Same with Office 2003. I had planned to
> go with Windows 7, but I saw that my son also has problems with that.
>
> I am open to good suggestions.
>
> Bill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rayj
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 12:21 PM
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Soldering Iron Recommendations
>
>
>
> On 11/05/2012 08:30 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
>
> SNIP
>>
>> Someone looking at a soldering tool for the first time cannot
>> know what thinking and processes went into its emergence
>> from the often chaotic evolution of what now appears to be ho-hum
>> technology. And my grand kids will never write their first chapter
>> of a book on a Kaypro either. But I'm going to tell them about
>> it . . . while making sure that what ever version of Windows does
>> not pose unnecessary impediments!
>>
> If you want to avoid Windows' unnecessary impediments, avoid Windows!!!
> The future is open source.
>
> do not archive
>
> Raymond Julian
> Kettle River, MN.
>
> "And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
> and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: A200/Flightcom 403 radio not transmitting- plane |
grounded!!
Jeff;
There are two separate radios, and two separate antennas. One is mounted on top
of the fuselage, and one on the bottom. I believe the switches simply flip the
connections from one radio to the other. Just the audio to my knowledge. Both
myself and the tower hear the squeal. Well, the tower just said I was high pitched
and unreadable. I confirmed that they were unable to hear or understand
my transmissions. The squeal definitely sounds like feedback, and thats my first
reaction to it. Its like an electric guitar next to an amplifier. Squeal builds
until your ear drums are obsolete. Because its intermittent, thats why I'm
so confused. It would make sense that sidetones are conflicting. Thats how
it seems anyways... I just didnt know how or even IF you could turn off Sidetone
in the 403. Do you know how to accomplish that? Flightcom didnt mention anything
to that effect, about shutting off sidetone etc. Said to look at the wiring
for the headphone and mic jacks etc.
Your help is greatly appreciated! Hoping this is a simple fix..... either way,
what I do know, is that when this anomaly occurs, it renders communications inop.
What is even more bizarre, is that when it was doing this squeal to me, I
was on 118.4, yet when switching to 129.10 it was 5/5!
Thanks Jeff......
Im hoping to some how just remove that second radio all together. Going to try
and see if I can get the same effect of squeal etc on the handheld thats wired
in.
Chad
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C-GYXQ. 912ULS. 601XL-B
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=386940#386940
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At 09:02 AM 11/5/2012, you wrote:
>
>Eric (and anyone else),
>
>Is there a chance that you or someone could offer up what would be a
>good model of station to go with for someone who wants to do
>general electronics/avionics work? I noted you said the STTC-147
>tips. Just browsed eBay and saw there are many models.
>I have 2 weller stations right now, and use the tiny point pencil
>tips quite a bit. I don't really *need* a new station, but hey,
>if they're as good as you say, I could be up for buying one.
>I' probably get new though if possible.
>Tim
That's not a simple question. Metcal has offered numerous
variations on their magic over the years . . . and the
components of those systems have limited or no interchangeability.
My post of a few days ago suggests that you look for
loose components of the legacy system. These tend to
be the least expensive/desirable. If you want to
consider the full evolution of Metcal product development,
then go for a complete power supply, wand combination.
Then cruise the Metcal website for the right SERIES of
tips (there will be dozens).
The STTC tips fit the legacy 30 watt systems I
described in my earlier posting. But no doubt
there will come a time when the supply of good
used examples begin to dry up . . . it may be
drying up already. The first one I bought was
a 'deal' sparked by a surplus equipment dump by
the space program contractors in the Orlando area.
An event not likely to be repeated.
If you've got the budget, then go for ANY of the
new systems offered in the catalogs or complete
systems offered on eBay. These are exemplar
offerings . ..
http://tinyurl.com/b9dakb3
http://tinyurl.com/chkshfw
http://tinyurl.com/b9dakb3
It all depends on how much time you want to spend
to save some money . . .
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Sub-standard Charging |
At 09:17 AM 11/5/2012, you wrote:
>
>I have a Z-13/8 installation which charges between 12.5 and 12.9
>since I've been using it. After startup the system charges happily
>to that level and then simply maintains it. I am trying to determine
>why the system stops charging at that level. From what I have read I
>should be expecting 13.0+ for normal operations.
14.2 to 14.6 is better yet
> My B & C idiot light goes off at 13.0 so it too is constantly on.
> 12.5 doesn't stop me from flying, but I would like to resolve. I
> have an 80 amp alternator from Aerosport Power. Normal Load (5-30
> amps) does not exceed capacity.
12.5 says your alternator is NOT working at all.
>Suggestions or procedures or what to test much appreciated.
You need to divide and conquer. If you have
an externally regulated alternator, then
do the experiments described in the B&C trouble-
shooting procedures for LR3. Or you can add a
field voltage sense lead as described in Note
8 of Appendix Z. Alternatively, you can craft
a test regulator like this:
Emacs!
This is a cheap generic VR166 regulator for "ford".
Convert your alternator to a locally regulated device
with temporary installation of this test regulator
and then go fly the airplane. If the bus voltage rises
to the nominal 14.2 volts, then your problem resides in
the existing regulator . . . if not, the alternator has
a problem.
What are your e-bus voltages during endurance mode
ops with the 8A standby alternator? Hmm . . . silly
question. You're flying with a partially charged battery.
The SD-8 wouldn't be able to push the bus voltage up
much under endurance mode ops.
Need to get the big dog woke up first . . .
Bob . . .
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At 09:31 AM 11/5/2012, you wrote:
>
>Glenn,
>
>Thanks for the commentary. I have a similar situation with my Rotax
>914, external Denso alternator. Everything works but the charging
>voltage isn't high enough to make the B&C voltage monitor light go
>out. Present normal load on the system is less than 5 amps.
What's the field voltage while in flight?
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: DIY GPS notch filter |
Got some good feedback from a builder who's fiddling with
the DIY GPS notch filter proposed yesterday. He points
out a need to take care how 'clean' your trim cuts are on
the coax stub. Here's a cut I just made using a "shearing"
style cable cutter on a piece of RG141.
There are no shield strands in danger of shorting the
end of the stub but there's a lot of debris that would
'de-tune' it. Use a fine stiff brush to clean off the
end after the cut is made. Check under magnifying lens
for potential shield-center shorts. Use sharp pointed
tool to push shield strands away from center conductor.
When you're finished with the cut-n-see process, dip the
end of the finished stub in 5 minute epoxy.
Emacs!
Bob . . .
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As I see it, the major problem that Linux faces is that 99% of computer user
s, myself included, look at the box as an appliance. I want my computers to
work like my fridge: open the door, find cold food; next time I open the do
or, cold food, and so on. The computer should just work.
Linux is widely perceived as an OS for IT geeks and experimenters. The very
idea of learning how to configure a new OS, finding hardware drivers, getti
ng networking hooked up, finding, installing and learning software to do wha
t I want, etc., is exhausting. For better or worse, the majority of compute
r users have decades of experience and $$ invested in the Windows platform.
WRT Win7, I have two boxes running that OS, one 64-bit, one 32-bit. The x64
system is a media server connected to a cable TV feed and an LCD TV. It fr
equently goes weeks or months between reboots and never hiccups, despite mul
tiple daily wake-sleep cycles. It's an appliance.
I do all of my new software work on the x32 box, so I'm much less careful ab
out what I install, with predictable results. I credit my own actions for 9
9.9% of that system's few problems.
Overall, I think Win7 is the best OS that Redmond has produced. It's light-
years ahead of XP for security and stability. Vista was, IMHO, an unmitigat
ed disaster.
Eric
do not archive
On Nov 5, 2012, at 1:18 PM, rayj wrote:
> Linux Ubuntu is popular for average users. Any Linux/Unix type operating s
ystem offers freedom from the whims of either Microsoft or Apple.
>
> See: http://www.ubuntu.com/
>
> Raymond Julian
> Kettle River, MN
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On 11/05/2012 04:24 PM, Eric Page wrote:
> Linux is widely perceived as an OS for IT geeks and experimenters. The
> very idea of learning how to configure a new OS, finding hardware
> drivers, getting networking hooked up, finding, installing and learning
> software to do what I want, etc., is exhausting.
That may have been true a decade ago. Today, Linux is just as easy to
install and run as Windows 7 or OSX. Give the latest Ubuntu or Centos
releases a try if you are curious.
-Dj
--
Dj Merrill - N1JOV
Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/
Glastar Flyer N866RH - http://deej.net/glastar/
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On 11/05/2012 09:47 AM, Bill Bradburry wrote:
>
> So what do you suggest to replace windows??
>
> I have Vista. It sucks big time! Same with Office 2003. I had planned to
> go with Windows 7, but I saw that my son also has problems with that.
>
> I am open to good suggestions.
>
> Bill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rayj
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 12:21 PM
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Soldering Iron Recommendations
>
>
>
> On 11/05/2012 08:30 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
>
> SNIP
>>
>> Someone looking at a soldering tool for the first time cannot
>> know what thinking and processes went into its emergence
>> from the often chaotic evolution of what now appears to be ho-hum
>> technology. And my grand kids will never write their first chapter
>> of a book on a Kaypro either. But I'm going to tell them about
>> it . . . while making sure that what ever version of Windows does
>> not pose unnecessary impediments!
>>
> If you want to avoid Windows' unnecessary impediments, avoid Windows!!!
> The future is open source.
>
> do not archive
>
> Raymond Julian
> Kettle River, MN.
>
> "And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
> and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
>
>
look at Linux Mint 11 or mint 13. Both are down loadable free off the
internet. Any questions or problems can be solved by googling. Fast and
dead reliable
chris smale
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Thank you all for the very helpful tips! I'll put them to good use
with some eBay shopping.
On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 3:19 PM, John Loram <johnl@loram.org> wrote:
>
> I have over 30 years on my two Weller 60 watt Soldering Stations. At times I
> have left them turned on for months at a time and they both work perfectly.
> Can't go wrong with a one of these Wellers for general electrical/electronic
> circuit work. Heats up in under a minute. Consider more modern WES51 or
> WESD51 (auto-shutoff). Expect to spend around $80-$150. Buy a couple of big
> tips, medium tips and small tips.
>
> You'll need something bigger (Weller soldering gun?) for other kinds of
> soldering.
>
> -john-
>
>
>> [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On
>> Behalf Of Jared Yates
>> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 7:54 AM
>> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Soldering Iron Recommendations
>>
>> --> <email@jaredyates.com>
>>
>> My little pencil-style soldering iron is dead and I'm looking
>> to replace it, perhaps with one of the station soldering
>> irons. I'm looking for a unit that is suitable for hobby use
>> that will last a while and get the job done. Does anyone
>> have any recommendations for one that is worth considering?
>
>
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I'll second that. I've been running Ubuntu for a couple of years and
I've had less problems than I had with any MS operating sys.
Many applications for Linux will produce output that is compatible with
MS software and will import MS output formats. A growing number of MS
programs can be run on a Linux box using WINE.
There is also support available from Canonical at different levels
depending on what you want to buy. I've not used the Canonical support
but I'm willing to bet that it's better than anything I received from MS
over the years.
Don't live in the past. Try it!!!
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.
"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
On 11/05/2012 03:33 PM, Dj Merrill wrote:
>
> On 11/05/2012 04:24 PM, Eric Page wrote:
>
>> Linux is widely perceived as an OS for IT geeks and experimenters. The
>> very idea of learning how to configure a new OS, finding hardware
>> drivers, getting networking hooked up, finding, installing and learning
>> software to do what I want, etc., is exhausting.
>
> That may have been true a decade ago. Today, Linux is just as easy to
> install and run as Windows 7 or OSX. Give the latest Ubuntu or Centos
> releases a try if you are curious.
>
> -Dj
>
>
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