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Fri 12/14/12


Total Messages Posted: 3



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     1. 09:14 AM - Re: Re: Kitlog Pro Development (Matt Dralle)
     2. 10:05 AM - Re: 2012 List of Contributors (schmoboy)
     3. 12:11 PM - Re: Re: 2012 List of Contributors (DeWitt Whittington)
 
 
 


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    Time: 09:14:44 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kitlog Pro Development
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    I'm hoping within a couple of months if things continue to progress as well as they have been. Matt Dralle Matronics / Kitlog Pro - Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 170+ Hours TTSN Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote: ><rv@thelefflers.com> > >So is there an ETA for 2.1? > >Bob > >Sent from my iPad > >On Dec 13, 2012, at 5:49 PM, Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> wrote: > ><dralle@matronics.com> >> >> >> Well, there's a sad story about the history of the Kitlog Development >cycle. After I acquired the Kitlog Pro company, I enlisted the >programmer that had been doing some of the minor development on the >product prior. I'd never met him and we mostly only exchanged emails. >I did speak to him on the phone on one occasion. I gave him a huge, >long, list of new features and enhancements that many customers were >wanting to see in Kitlog. It was tagged the 3.0 Version. Keeping him >working was always a challenge, but time passed and he worked through >nearly the whole list (I was paying him by the hour). At one point, he >subcontracted some of the tasks to an overseas code house (I suspect >China, as the spelling and grammar on some of the dialogs was >atrocious). I finally got a pre-release version to try and sure >enough, every one of the features I'd asked for was included. The bad >news, most of them didn't work or didn't work as expected. But worst, >the whole program was comp! >> letely unstable and crashed constantly. Obviously, he had done >little if any testing along the way. At this point, I had to make a >decision. I had already spent a substantial amount for the development >such as it was. It would easily take that much or more to "fix" >everything and I'd still be fairly suspect of the quality. I decided >to take a step back at that point and come up with a new game plan. I >had to sell quite a few more copies of Kitlog to recoup the cost of all >that wasted development. >> >> Well, the good news is that I've found an awesome new developer that >has lots of experience in this coding environment. In fact, I work >with him face to face on another job. So, we decided to just take the >2.0 code base and start working from there. The biggest issue right >now is the installer and compatibility with Vista, Windows 7, and >Windows 8. These have been addressed and I'm testing a new installer >currently that is working very well and has a super smooth installation >across all of the versions of Windows. There are also a number of user >interface enhancements including the ability to just drag and drop >pictures on a given construction log. Printing reliability is also >vastly improved. There are also lots of little tweaks that make things >work better. This version will likely be dubbed "2.1". Once that's >out the door and working, we have some great plans to add some of the >other often-asked-for features like spell checking, rich text, larger >text fields, mor! >> e pictures per log entry, etc. It will likely be dubbed "3.0". >> >> Version 2.1 will be a free update. Version 3.0 will likely be a paid >upgrade. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Matt Dralle >> Matronics / Kitlog Pro >> >> >> >> At 08:15 PM 12/12/2012 Wednesday, you wrote: >>> Hear, hear. I too would like to see an update to Kitlog Pro. I'd >certainly consider paying for a major upgrade. If Matt will consider >this I hope he solicits input from users to decide on features. >>> >>> Ralph Finch >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 3:44 PM, DeWitt (Dee) Whittington ><<mailto:dee.whittington@gmail.com>dee.whittington@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Matt, >>> >>> I've donated to you for years. I and my three partners continue to >build our Sportsman and hopefully will fly in the Spring. However, this >year I held off donating because I'm waiting for an update to the >Kitlog Pro computer program you own. When you purchased Kitlog Pro, you >said you would clean it up and make it easier to use. As of now the >interface is really clunky and it cannot handle multiple builders of a >single project, something that in my experience is not uncommon. >>> >>> Have you decided such improvement of Kitlog Pro is not something you >are willing to spend time on? If you did I would enthusiastically >endorse it to other builders and start donating again. >>> >>> Dee Whittington >> >> >> >> Matt G Dralle | Matronics | 581 Jeannie Way | Livermore | CA | 94550 >> 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email >> http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 10:05:26 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 2012 List of Contributors
    From: "schmoboy" <schmoboy@cox.net>
    Not sure I wanted to send this, but what the he.. I'm hoping that folks aren't using what is or what isn't in Kitlog Pro as a determination if they are going to send a donation for these lists. Kitlog Pro is a paid application. If you buy the product you are funding the further development. These lists are free and continue to thrive because of donations. If you donate you are helping them continue. I don't use KLP, but if I did it would have no bearing on if I donate to these lists. It would have a bearing on if I upgraded or not. Like these lists? Use them all the time? Donate. It's not too late. .0001 cent worth... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=390450#390450


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    Time: 12:11:56 PM PST US
    From: DeWitt Whittington <dee.whittington@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: 2012 List of Contributors
    Neither do I. I intend to make a donation as I have every year for 8 years. My purpose was to use this forum as a means to get a statement from Matt about his upgrading Kitlog Pro. I had not heard from him for 8 years. I'm certainly very happy that his intention is to greatly improve the software. I can't wait to see the improved product. Dee At 01:04 PM 12/14/2012, you wrote: > >Not sure I wanted to send this, but what the he.. > >I'm hoping that folks aren't using what is or what isn't in Kitlog >Pro as a determination if they are going to send a donation for >these lists. Kitlog Pro is a paid application. If you buy the >product you are funding the further development. These lists are >free and continue to thrive because of donations. If you donate you >are helping them continue. > >I don't use KLP, but if I did it would have no bearing on if I >donate to these lists. It would have a bearing on if I upgraded or not. > >Like these lists? Use them all the time? Donate. It's not too late. > >.0001 cent worth... > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=390450#390450 > > DeWitt (Dee) Whittington 406 N Mulberry St Richmond, VA 23220-3320 (804) 358-4333 phone and fax SKYPE: hilltopkid dee.whittington@gmail.com




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