---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 01/12/13: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:10 AM - Re: Load Analysis Feedback Please... (Valovich, Paul) 2. 11:42 AM - Anderson PowerPole connectors (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 3. 12:10 PM - Re: Anderson PowerPole connectors (Jeff B) 4. 12:18 PM - Re: Anderson PowerPole connectors (Roger & Jean Curtis) 5. 12:41 PM - Re: Anderson PowerPole connectors (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 6. 12:54 PM - Ground connector (was Anderson PowerPole connectors) (Gilles Thesee) 7. 01:19 PM - Re: Anderson PowerPole connectors (rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us) 8. 07:49 PM - Low Cost ELT Antenna (Jerald Folkerts) 9. 08:07 PM - Re: Low Cost ELT Antenna (Kelly McMullen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:10:08 AM PST US From: "Valovich, Paul" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Load Analysis Feedback Please... I spent a lot of time analyzing electrical requirements during my -8A build , and initially seemed to apply overkill to every requirement. A few points that led me to Z 13/8 and a 40 amp B&C alternator and an SD8 backup: * It really is steady state loads - not transients * Endurance bus is just that - something to comfortably get you on the ground after a main alternator gliche; it doesn't need to include all t he nice to haves: strobes, #2 radio, most interior lighting, pitot heat, ( if required turn it on for short periods), aux power plug. Again, you can wire these to the endurance bus but turn them on only when required * Backup batteries in the Garmin and AFS 4500 relieve a lot of the requirements * Minimize equipment on Battery Bus 280 hours and 20 months later, the electrical system has worked flawlessly. Normal load - strobes, 496, SL30, PMA7000B, GTX 327, AFS 4500 - is 15 amps . The extra $ for B&C products - and attention to detail in wiring the Z13/ 8 architecture - does instill confidence. Two switches to get the SD8 and E ndurance Bus online; turn off the Batt/Alt switch and it's mostly business as usual. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:42:08 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: AeroElectric-List: Anderson PowerPole connectors I don't know if we've talked about these folks on the List before . . . but I ran across an current application where these connectors appear a great alternative to knife-splices and perhaps even the Molex/Tyco-Amp white nylon connectors. I've uploaded a data package for the Anderson PowerPole connectors to this page on my website: http://tinyurl.com/cbe2t87 On that page you will also find installation instructions, tools, and a link to the factory outlet where you can buy any quantity of housings, pins and accessories at reasonable prices. Do a Google on Anderson Powerpole and you'll no doubt discover many other sources for this unique product line. Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:10:44 PM PST US From: Jeff B Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Anderson PowerPole connectors We ham radio guys love them. If you put a set on your radios you can pretty much show up anywhere and plug in and get power for your gear! -Jeff- *From:* Robert L. Nuckolls, III *Sent:* January 12, 2013 12:48 PM *To:* aeroelectric-list@matronics.com *Subject:* AeroElectric-List: Anderson PowerPole connectors nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com**> I don't know if we've talked about these folks on the List before . . . but I ran across an current application where these connectors appear a great alternative to knife-splices and perhaps even the Molex/Tyco-Amp white nylon connectors. I've uploaded a data package for the Anderson PowerPole connectors to this page on my website: http://tinyurl.com/cbe2t87 On that page you will also find installation instructions, tools, and a link to the factory outlet where you can buy any quantity of housings, pins and accessories at reasonable prices. Do a Google on Anderson Powerpole and you'll no doubt discover many other sources for this unique product line. Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:18:13 PM PST US From: "Roger & Jean Curtis" Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Anderson PowerPole connectors I don't know if we've talked about these folks on the List before . . I've uploaded a data package for the Anderson PowerPole connectors to this page on my website: http://tinyurl.com/cbe2t87 Bob . . . A search of the list shows that we did kick them around a few times starting back about 10 years ago. Roger Do not archive _____ .. Do you have a slow PC? Try a free scan! ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:41:12 PM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Anderson PowerPole connectors At 02:10 PM 1/12/2013, you wrote: > > >We ham radio guys love them. If you put a set on your radios you >can pretty much show up anywhere and plug in and get power for your gear! > > -Jeff- Yeah, I've been seeing them for years but never really sat down and studied the products and their technology. Pretty slick. I think B&C has been using them in their SD-8 installation kits for years. In fact, it was a ham radio application that prompted me to revisit this product. I inherited a Kenwood TS440 in great shape from a old friend who was upgrading his station. Got a longwire with tuner put up which is marginally serviceable. Planning an off-center-fed dipole as soon as the weather warms up and roof-crawling is not so unfriendly. Been honing up the CW skills. Haven't been on HF in over 40 years but I've got some grand-children who should see what this ham radio stuff is all about. Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:54:50 PM PST US From: Gilles Thesee Subject: AeroElectric-List: Ground connector (was Anderson PowerPole connectors) Robert L. Nuckolls, III a crit : > > Yeah, I've been seeing them for years but never > really sat down and studied the products and their > technology. Pretty slick. Bob and all, Your messages about PowerPole connectors prompted a question : What type of ground connector would you recommend to easily connect our Optimate charger to the ship's batteries through the aircraft skin (without opening the baggage door) ? Among goals we are aiming at : - Lightweight - Small footprint - Resistance/protection from water, mud, etc. - As aerodynamically clean as possible Any ideas ? Thanks for any input, Best regards, -- Gilles http://contrails.free.fr ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:19:17 PM PST US Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Anderson PowerPole connectors From: rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us Hi Group I've been using Anderson Power pole connectors since the late 90s on electric models. I really like them and have been using them here and there on my Europa project. One note, when drawing more than half of the rated capacity, even though contacts are clean and there is good tension, every once in a while they go higher than desired resistance and will melt down. These failures were on high amp draw model use. I got tired of losing power just at the wrong time and decided to parallel two connectors. Never had another problem. Here's an emergency run at least one electric fuel pump on my 914 Rotax battery that has two paralleled connectors: http://www.europaowners.org/main.php?g2_itemId=27335&g2_imageViewsIndex=1 McMaster sells them called "modul;ar connectors: http://www.mcmaster.com/#modular-connectors/=l09xlv Ron Parigoris ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:49:30 PM PST US From: "Jerald Folkerts" Subject: AeroElectric-List: Low Cost ELT Antenna I'm several weeks away from completing my Cygnet project. The aircraft has no electrical system, and I've installed an older Narco ELT 10 as it is theoretically a two seat aircraft. However, I don't have an antenna or a plan for one. What would be the simplest and least expensive way to go? The Cygnet is steel tube and fabric with a wood/fabric covered wing. Thanks, Jerry Folkerts ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:07:05 PM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Low Cost ELT Antenna Hate to tell you this, but it is illegal to install an original type ELT in any aircraft as a new install. If it had a Narco about 20 years ago, before they were made obsolete by regulation, you could still replace with same model legally, but you can't use one as a new install. The ELT10 is a first generation, designed in the early 70's, and does not meet current requirements, so only old installations are grandfathered. You are going to need a second generation ELT, such as the Artex, ACK, or Ameriking. The cheapest new are a little under 200. You also have to use the antenna it comes with. If your aircraft requires an ELT, it must be a TSO ELT of the second generation or newer, and the TSO requires using the antenna with which TSO was granted On 1/12/2013 8:48 PM, Jerald Folkerts wrote: > > Im several weeks away from completing my Cygnet project. The aircraft > has no electrical system, and Ive installed an older Narco ELT 10 as > it is theoretically a two seat aircraft. However, I dont have an > antenna or a plan for one. What would be the simplest and least > expensive way to go? The Cygnet is steel tube and fabric with a > wood/fabric covered wing. > > Thanks, > > Jerry Folkerts > > * > > > * ----- No virus found in this message. 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