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Sun 03/03/13


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     1. 06:16 AM - Re: Re: lithum-ion batteries (Robert Reed)
     2. 12:44 PM - Fw: [Norton AntiSpam]Re: [rvsqn] Charge indicator light (JOHN TIPTON)
     3. 01:08 PM - [Norton AntiSpam]Re: [rvsqn] Charge indicator light (nuckollsr)
     4. 01:26 PM - Re: Fw: [Norton AntiSpam]Re: [rvsqn] Charge indicator light (Henry Hallam)
     5. 01:26 PM - Re: [Norton AntiSpam]Re: [rvsqn] Charge indicator light (JOHN TIPTON)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:16:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: lithum-ion batteries
    From: Robert Reed <RobertR237@att.net>
    Best advice I have seen in a long time! Thanks! Bob Reed Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2013, at 12:06 AM, Jan <jan@CLAVER.DEMON.CO.UK> wrote: > For what it is worth I work with Li-ion batteries for a living. No questi on they are lighter and will hold more energy and are able to deliver it fas ter than other battery technologies. > > Problem is that you need to control them very well both in charge and disc harge. Failure can be rather interesting .... Easy in a car .. You just pull over and deal with the "issue". Not so easy when you at 5000ft. :-) > > For the weight saving in question. Go to the gym an loose a few pounds... Y ou live longer and do not have to worry about your battery pack. I will not b e fitting them in my RV ... And I can get them for free ... > > All the best > > Jan > > On Mar 3, 2013, at 3:28, rayj <raymondj@frontiernet.net> wrote: > >> James, >> >> I attached a report that was posted to the list a while ago. My personal opinion is that Li battery technology is not ready for use in aircraft. Ch eck the archives for more info and opinions. >> >> Hope this is useful. >> Raymond Julian >> Kettle River, MN. >> >> "And you know that I could have me a million more friends, >> and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine >> On 03/01/2013 07:17 PM, James Robinson wrote: >>> What is the concensus opinion on lithium-ion batteries? I can get a Lit hiun-ion battery with greater Amp/hr rating, cranking power, and save more t han 1/2 the weight. Any comments? >>> >>> James Robinson >>> Glasair lll N79R >>> Spanish Fork UT U77 >>> >>> From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> >>> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com >>> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 11:30 AM >>> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Ground plane diameter >>> olls.bob@aeroelectric.com> >>> >>> At 11:48 AM 2/28/2013, you wrote: >>> > Then would be the recommendation for a more modern design that is all c arbon fiber? The carbon is conductive, but absorbs radiation instead of ref lecting it from what I understand. Go with a foil circle or strips of the a ppropriate diameter on the outside of the carbon, but under the paint? >>> >>> That's a whole other can of worms. The carbon fiber >>> is, as you've described, pretty lossy stuff. Yeah, it >>> is conductive but much of electrical energy flowing >>> through a carbon matrix is converted to heat. >>> >>> Trying to create idealized ground planes over the >>> carbon and under the paint is exceedingly expensive >>> and problematic for affecting structural integrity >>> of the shell. >>> >>> At HBC, non-resonant ground planes were bonded to the >>> inside surface of the fuselage shell. Relatively >>> inexpensive and the flight test results deemed them >>> adequate to the task. >>> >>> >>> >>> Bent also available via the Web nbsp; -Matt Dralle,= >> >> <RFLithiumIonBatteriesHazard.pdf> > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 12:44:37 PM PST US
    From: "JOHN TIPTON" <jmtipton@btopenworld.com>
    Subject: Re: Fw: [Norton AntiSpam]Re: [rvsqn] Charge indicator light
    Hi Guys This is an interesting little device at a very low price: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12v-Battery-Charge-Warning-Light-voltage-indica tor-/150481634975?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Other&hash=item230967869f Details here http://www.sparkbright.co.uk/ As the device can be programmed by the supplier for the buyers application, what would the values be - ie: over charging voltage - normal voltage - low voltage etc for an RV John __._,_.___Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (7) Recent Activity: a.. New Members 5 a.. New Photos 2 Visit Your Group To Post a message, send it to: rvsqn@eGroups.com To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: rvsqn-unsubscribe@eGroups.com Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest - Unsubscribe - Terms of Use - Send us Feedback . __,_._,___


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    Time: 01:08:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: [Norton AntiSpam]Re: [rvsqn] Charge indicator light
    From: "nuckollsr" <bob.nuckolls@aeroelectric.com>
    Interesting product. If it's well calibrated and stable, the voltages cited are typical and appropriate for a 14v system Here's a 'cleaner' link to the offering on ebay. http://tinyurl.com/bt8rz55 I'll order one and see how well it delivers on its claims. Bob . . . Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395539#395539


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    Time: 01:26:48 PM PST US
    From: Henry Hallam <henry@pericynthion.org>
    Subject: Re: Fw: [Norton AntiSpam]Re: [rvsqn] Charge indicator
    light That looks great especially for cramped panels. On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 12:31 PM, JOHN TIPTON <jmtipton@btopenworld.com>wrot e: > ** > Hi Guys > > This is an interesting little device at a very low price: > > ** <http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12v-Battery-C>* > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12v-Battery-C** > harge-Warning-Light-voltage-indicator-/150481634975?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_ Other&hash=item230967869f > * > > > Details here > > http://www.sparkbright.co.uk/ > > As the device can be programmed by the supplier for the buyers > application, what would the values be - ie: over charging voltage - norma l > voltage - low voltage etc for an RV > > John > > __._,_.___ > Reply via web post<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rvsqn/post;_ylc=X3oD MTJxbWtvZnRkBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1NjAzNjcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDY1NjE4BG1 zZ0lkAzQwNjgxBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTM2MjMzNTY4Mw--?act=reply&m essageNum=40681> Reply > to sender > <john@tiptonuk.eu?subject=Re%3A%20%5Brvsqn%5D%20Charge%20indicator%20li ght> Reply > to group > <rvsqn@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20%5Brvsqn%5D%20Charge%20indicator %20light> Start > a New Topic<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rvsqn/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJlOGtsc nRsBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1NjAzNjcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDY1NjE4BHNlYwNmdHIE c2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTM2MjMzNTY4Mw--> Messages > in this topic<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rvsqn/message/40673;_ylc=X3 oDMTM2ZXBxcGhtBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1NjAzNjcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDY1NjE4B G1zZ0lkAzQwNjgxBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTM2MjMzNTY4MwR0cGNJZAM0MDY3 Mw-->(7) > Recent Activity: > > - New Members<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rvsqn/members;_ylc=X3oDM TJmMHNsZHU3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1NjAzNjcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDY1NjE4BHNl YwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZtYnJzBHN0aW1lAzEzNjIzMzU2ODM-?o=6> > 5 > - New Photos<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rvsqn/spnew;_ylc=X3oDMTJm djVkYWY2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1NjAzNjcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDY1NjE4BHNlYwN 2dGwEc2xrA3ZwaG90BHN0aW1lAzEzNjIzMzU2ODM-> > 2 > > Visit Your Group<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rvsqn;_ylc=X3oDMTJlY2Nqc 2loBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1NjAzNjcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDY1NjE4BHNlYwN2dGwE c2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTM2MjMzNTY4Mw--> > To Post a message, send it to: rvsqn@eGroups.com > > To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: rvsqn-unsubscribe@eGroups.com > [image: Yahoo! Groups]<http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJkYXQ5M2o0BF 9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzE1NjAzNjcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDY1NjE4BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA 2dmcARzdGltZQMxMzYyMzM1Njg0> > Switch to: Text-Only<rvsqn-traditional@yahoogroups.com?subject=Change+D elivery+Format:+Traditional>, > Daily Digest <rvsqn-digest@yahoogroups.com?subject=Email+Delivery:+Dige st>- > Unsubscribe <rvsqn-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> - Terms > of Use <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> - Send us Feedback > <ygroupsnotifications@yahoogroups.com?subject=Feedback+on+the+redesigne d+individual+mail+v1> > . > > __,_._,___ > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > >


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    Time: 01:26:57 PM PST US
    From: "JOHN TIPTON" <jmtipton@btopenworld.com>
    Subject: Re: [Norton AntiSpam]Re: [rvsqn] Charge indicator light
    Nice one Bob: I look forward to seeing the results John (RV-9a - England) ----- Original Message ----- From: "nuckollsr" <bob.nuckolls@aeroelectric.com> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 9:07 PM Subject: AeroElectric-List: [Norton AntiSpam]Re: [rvsqn] Charge indicator light > <bob.nuckolls@aeroelectric.com> > > Interesting product. If it's well calibrated and stable, the voltages > cited are typical and appropriate for a 14v system Here's a 'cleaner' link > to the offering on ebay. > > http://tinyurl.com/bt8rz55 > > I'll order one and see how well it delivers on its claims. > > Bob . . . > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395539#395539 > > >




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