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1. 04:03 AM - Re: RV6A Starter Contacter Problem (Jack Haviland)
2. 06:47 AM - Re: RV6A Starter Contacter Problem (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
3. 09:52 AM - Headset/Microphone cable replacement (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
4. 01:07 PM - Re: Headset/Microphone cable replacement (James Kilford)
5. 01:08 PM - Re: Headset/Microphone cable replacement (James Kilford)
6. 01:59 PM - Re: Headset/Microphone cable replacement (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
7. 02:11 PM - Re: Headset/Microphone cable replacement (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
8. 02:14 PM - Re: Headset/Microphone cable replacement (Sacha)
9. 04:11 PM - Re: Headset/Microphone cable replacement (James Kilford)
10. 05:22 PM - Re: Headset/Microphone cable replacement (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
11. 08:37 PM - ATC slo blo? (B Tomm)
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| Subject: | Re: RV6A Starter Contacter Problem |
On Mar 5, 2013, at 10:36 PM, "Robert L. Nuckolls, III"
<nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> wrote:
> Just for grins,
> it would be interesting to try this style contactor.
> They're about 40 years 'younger' in design than the
> beer-barrel contactors. MUCH higher contact pressures.
Thanks Bob - I'll give it a try.
Jack H.
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| Subject: | Re: RV6A Starter Contacter Problem |
At 06:01 AM 3/6/2013, you wrote:
>On Mar 5, 2013, at 10:36 PM, "Robert L. Nuckolls, III"
><<mailto:nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> wrote:
>
>>Just for grins,
>> it would be interesting to try this style contactor.
>> They're about 40 years 'younger' in design than the
>> beer-barrel contactors. MUCH higher contact pressures.
>
>Thanks Bob - I'll give it a try.
Great. Keep us apprised of your experience. Note
further that SOME off the shelf parts will have
a diode built in. If so, they'll probably say so
on the bottom with some words like "transient
protected", "diode installed", etc. If in doubt,
it doesn't hurt to install your own diode outside
the contactor. Two diodes is fine, no diodes is
really hard on your switch.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Headset/Microphone cable replacement |
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Email: colinjordan@xtra.co.nz
Comments/Questions: Hi,
I am looking for some wire to r&r some of our flying club headsets,
can you suggest what I should use and do you have some for sale?
We have four or five ready for repair.
Thanks,
Colin
----------------------------------------
It's a problem . . . there are some fine wire
products specific to this task. Unfortunately,
difficult to acquire in small quantities. Back
in my younger days, my local electronics supplier
had a room full of racks holding spools of wire
specific to the electronic arts. One could select
from a variety of products and purchase any length
priced by the foot.
Today, I have no known suppliers offering a similar
service. I can buy 100' spools by mail-order . . .
sight unseen. In other words, I can't 'test' the
wire for feel, appearance, physical characteristics
before I have to buy many times more wire than I
need to do the job.
I've been pondering your question and have the following
suggestion. In my grab bag of cable assemblies I'm
seeing a family of USB cables that seem to offer a solution to
your problem. They're small in diameter, flexible,
plenty of conductors and shielded. Further, USB cables are
like rabbits put a few into a box for 'future use' and
in a year or so, they've multiplied in number exponentially.
Emacs!
Try this wire on one of your target headsets as an
experiment. They're 4-conductor + shield. Very flexible,
reasonably robust. You can parallel extra conductors
or simply ignore them.
I've posted your query to the AeroElectric-List forum
to invite suggestions from the membership.
List Membership: Colin is not yet a List member so make
sure your suggestions include his e-mail address on
your sent-to line . . .
Colin: I've signed you up to join the List. You will
receive an e-mail invitation. You may accept the
invitation by following the link in the email, or
choose to ignore it. Your choice.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Headset/Microphone cable replacement |
You could also use shielded network cables -- the kind with 4 pairs +
overall screen. They're easy to pick up on Amazon for next to nothing, or
if you know a friendly IT department they're likely to have loads of them
kicking around.
Possibly not the most flexible cable, but then again the leads on my
Peltors aren't that flexible either.
HTH.
James
On 6 March 2013 17:50, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <
nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> wrote:
> Receive via AEC Catalog Order Inquiry
> Email: colinjordan@xtra.co.nz
>
> Comments/Questions: Hi,
>
> I am looking for some wire to r&r some of our flying club headsets,
> can you suggest what I should use and do you have some for sale?
> We have four or five ready for repair.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Colin
> ----------------------------------------
>
> It's a problem . . . there are some fine wire
> products specific to this task. Unfortunately,
> difficult to acquire in small quantities. Back
> in my younger days, my local electronics supplier
> had a room full of racks holding spools of wire
> specific to the electronic arts. One could select
> from a variety of products and purchase any length
> priced by the foot.
>
> Today, I have no known suppliers offering a similar
> service. I can buy 100' spools by mail-order . . .
> sight unseen. In other words, I can't 'test' the
> wire for feel, appearance, physical characteristics
> before I have to buy many times more wire than I
> need to do the job.
>
> I've been pondering your question and have the following
> suggestion. In my grab bag of cable assemblies I'm
> seeing a family of USB cables that seem to offer a solution to
> your problem. They're small in diameter, flexible,
> plenty of conductors and shielded. Further, USB cables are
> like rabbits put a few into a box for 'future use' and
> in a year or so, they've multiplied in number exponentially.
>
> [image: Emacs!]
>
> Try this wire on one of your target headsets as an
> experiment. They're 4-conductor + shield. Very flexible,
> reasonably robust. You can parallel extra conductors
> or simply ignore them.
>
> I've posted your query to the AeroElectric-List forum
> to invite suggestions from the membership.
>
> List Membership: Colin is not yet a List member so make
> sure your suggestions include his e-mail address on
> your sent-to line . . .
>
> Colin: I've signed you up to join the List. You will
> receive an e-mail invitation. You may accept the
> invitation by following the link in the email, or
> choose to ignore it. Your choice.
>
> **
>
> ** Bob . . .
>
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| Subject: | Re: Headset/Microphone cable replacement |
Oh, and an alternative, if you only need three cores, would be headphone
extension cables. You can get them in screened flavour, again for a small
price.
James
On 6 March 2013 21:06, James Kilford <james@etravel.org> wrote:
> You could also use shielded network cables -- the kind with 4 pairs +
> overall screen. They're easy to pick up on Amazon for next to nothing, or
> if you know a friendly IT department they're likely to have loads of them
> kicking around.
>
> Possibly not the most flexible cable, but then again the leads on my
> Peltors aren't that flexible either.
>
> HTH.
>
> James
>
>
> On 6 March 2013 17:50, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <
> nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> wrote:
>
>> Receive via AEC Catalog Order Inquiry
>> Email: colinjordan@xtra.co.nz
>>
>> Comments/Questions: Hi,
>>
>> I am looking for some wire to r&r some of our flying club headsets,
>> can you suggest what I should use and do you have some for sale?
>> We have four or five ready for repair.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Colin
>> ----------------------------------------
>>
>> It's a problem . . . there are some fine wire
>> products specific to this task. Unfortunately,
>> difficult to acquire in small quantities. Back
>> in my younger days, my local electronics supplier
>> had a room full of racks holding spools of wire
>> specific to the electronic arts. One could select
>> from a variety of products and purchase any length
>> priced by the foot.
>>
>> Today, I have no known suppliers offering a similar
>> service. I can buy 100' spools by mail-order . . .
>> sight unseen. In other words, I can't 'test' the
>> wire for feel, appearance, physical characteristics
>> before I have to buy many times more wire than I
>> need to do the job.
>>
>> I've been pondering your question and have the following
>> suggestion. In my grab bag of cable assemblies I'm
>> seeing a family of USB cables that seem to offer a solution to
>> your problem. They're small in diameter, flexible,
>> plenty of conductors and shielded. Further, USB cables are
>> like rabbits put a few into a box for 'future use' and
>> in a year or so, they've multiplied in number exponentially.
>>
>> [image: Emacs!]
>>
>> Try this wire on one of your target headsets as an
>> experiment. They're 4-conductor + shield. Very flexible,
>> reasonably robust. You can parallel extra conductors
>> or simply ignore them.
>>
>> I've posted your query to the AeroElectric-List forum
>> to invite suggestions from the membership.
>>
>> List Membership: Colin is not yet a List member so make
>> sure your suggestions include his e-mail address on
>> your sent-to line . . .
>>
>> Colin: I've signed you up to join the List. You will
>> receive an e-mail invitation. You may accept the
>> invitation by following the link in the email, or
>> choose to ignore it. Your choice.
>>
>> **
>>
>> ** Bob . . .
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Headset/Microphone cable replacement |
At 03:06 PM 3/6/2013, you wrote:
>You could also use shielded network cables --
>the kind with 4 pairs + overall screen.
>They're easy to pick up on Amazon for next to
>nothing, or if you know a friendly IT department
>they're likely to have loads of them kicking around.
>
>Possibly not the most flexible cable, but then
>again the leads on my Peltors aren't that flexible either.
These tend to be less flexible and most
use solid conductors. Good wire for situations
that do not have to be coiled/uncoiled and
moved around.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Headset/Microphone cable replacement |
At 03:08 PM 3/6/2013, you wrote:
>Oh, and an alternative, if you only need three
>cores, would be headphone extension cables.
>You can get them in screened flavour, again for a small price.
>
>James
True. I think his headset cables would call for
5 conductors. Two floating for phones. One for
PTT, one for MIC HI and the shield conductor for
MIC LO/PTT LO.
Your point is well taken.
Certainly other manufactured audio/video/signal
cables should be considered as sources for short
lengths of specialty wire. The bill of materials
cost for mass manufactured assemblies is usually
a small fraction of the cost for one-of-a-kind
DIY assemblies. If you can get the cables out
of the orphaned hardware box of a thrift shop,
they can approach 'free'.
My dad used to run a lumber yard and sold some
kinds of wire, chain and liquids from 'bulk'
that was harvested from manufactured products
For example, a 100' 10-3 extension cord with
ends already installed was less expensive than
a 100' spool of the same wire. The guy selling
cords bought wire at carload lot prices. The guy selling
you wire on a spool charged 100' lot prices. Same
thing with chains and paint-thinner/charcoal lighter.
Dad bought cords, cut the ends off and spooled it
up for cut-length sales.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Headset/Microphone cable replacement |
If you go that route, make sure the cable conductors are stranded not
solid.
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James
Kilford
Sent: Wednesday, 06 March, 2013 21:06
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Headset/Microphone cable replacement
You could also use shielded network cables -- the kind with 4 pairs +
overall screen. They're easy to pick up on Amazon for next to nothing,
or if you know a friendly IT department they're likely to have loads of
them kicking around.
Possibly not the most flexible cable, but then again the leads on my
Peltors aren't that flexible either.
HTH.
James
On 6 March 2013 17:50, Robert L. Nuckolls, III
<nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> wrote:
Receive via AEC Catalog Order Inquiry
Email: colinjordan@xtra.co.nz
Comments/Questions: Hi,
I am looking for some wire to r&r some of our flying club headsets,
can you suggest what I should use and do you have some for sale?
We have four or five ready for repair.
Thanks,
Colin
----------------------------------------
It's a problem . . . there are some fine wire
products specific to this task. Unfortunately,
difficult to acquire in small quantities. Back
in my younger days, my local electronics supplier
had a room full of racks holding spools of wire
specific to the electronic arts. One could select
from a variety of products and purchase any length
priced by the foot.
Today, I have no known suppliers offering a similar
service. I can buy 100' spools by mail-order . . .
sight unseen. In other words, I can't 'test' the
wire for feel, appearance, physical characteristics
before I have to buy many times more wire than I
need to do the job.
I've been pondering your question and have the following
suggestion. In my grab bag of cable assemblies I'm
seeing a family of USB cables that seem to offer a solution to
your problem. They're small in diameter, flexible,
plenty of conductors and shielded. Further, USB cables are
like rabbits put a few into a box for 'future use' and
in a year or so, they've multiplied in number exponentially.
Emacs!
Try this wire on one of your target headsets as an
experiment. They're 4-conductor + shield. Very flexible,
reasonably robust. You can parallel extra conductors
or simply ignore them.
I've posted your query to the AeroElectric-List forum
to invite suggestions from the membership.
List Membership: Colin is not yet a List member so make
sure your suggestions include his e-mail address on
your sent-to line . . .
Colin: I've signed you up to join the List. You will
receive an e-mail invitation. You may accept the
invitation by following the link in the email, or
choose to ignore it. Your choice.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Headset/Microphone cable replacement |
Sorry, this is me not being clear -- the cables I'm thinking of are the
patch leads that you use in comms cabinets etc. The ones I have are made
of stranded cable. Each wire has 7 strands. Would that be flexible
enough?
James
On 6 March 2013 21:57, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <
nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> wrote:
> nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com**>
>
> At 03:06 PM 3/6/2013, you wrote:
>
>> You could also use shielded network cables -- the kind with 4 pairs +
>> overall screen. =C3=82 They're easy to pick up on Amazon for next to not
hing, or
>> if you know a friendly IT department they're likely to have loads of the
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>> kicking around.
>>
>> Possibly not the most flexible cable, but then again the leads on my
>> Peltors aren't that flexible either.=C3=82
>>
>
> These tend to be less flexible and most
> use solid conductors. Good wire for situations
> that do not have to be coiled/uncoiled and
> moved around.
>
>
> Bob . . .
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Headset/Microphone cable replacement |
At 06:09 PM 3/6/2013, you wrote:
>Sorry, this is me not being clear -- the cables
>I'm thinking of are the patch leads that you use
>in comms cabinets etc. The ones I have are
>made of stranded cable. Each wire has 7
>strands. Would that be flexible enough?
Interesting. I did not know that.
Thanks for the heads-up!
Bob . . .
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Is there such a thing as a slow blow fuse in an ATC format (for a fuse
block)?
Bevan
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