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1. 01:38 PM - 28V to 15.6V @ 5A (Jeff Page)
2. 02:54 PM - Which crimper for Big AWG's on both HB *and* Certified? (Builder_Bill)
3. 03:58 PM - Re: Which crimper for Big AWG's on both HB *and* Certified? (stearman456)
4. 04:03 PM - Re: Which crimper for Big AWG's on both HB *and* Certified? (Christopher Cee Stone)
5. 06:12 PM - Re: Which crimper for Big AWG's on both HB *and* Certified? (Builder_Bill)
6. 06:14 PM - Re: Re: Which crimper for Big AWG's on both HB *and* Certified? (John Ciolino)
7. 06:25 PM - Re: Which crimper for Big AWG's on both HB *and* Certified? (Builder_Bill)
8. 06:29 PM - Re: Re: Which crimper for Big AWG's on both HB *and* Certified? (Robert Borger)
9. 06:34 PM - Re: Which crimper for Big AWG's on both HB *and* Certified? (Builder_Bill)
10. 10:58 PM - Re: 28V to 15.6V @ 5A (Jay Hyde)
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Subject: | 28V to 15.6V @ 5A |
A friend of mine has a requirement to power a laptop requiring 15.6V
at 5A from an aircraft with a 28V system.
This unit is almost what is needed, but the spec is only 4A.
http://www.lonestaraviation.com/Step-Down-Converter-24v-to-16v.html
Is anyone aware of a similar product with a little more power capability ?
Thanks,
Jeff Page
Dream Aircraft Tundra #10
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Subject: | Which crimper for Big AWG's on both HB *and* Certified? |
I want to make a decision on sourcing a crimper & terminal set that I can use for
Big AWG's on both E-AB and certified alike (one tool to rule them all).
This question has been eating me for a while. The sound judgement falls to me on
HB/OBAM, but I've asked around a bit and nobody I've asked can tell me what
crimper or process is kosher to repair on certified. I didn't ask an OEM or a
FSDO and wasn't going to.
The next time I see a B-lead terminal that looks like it's about to fatigue off
and ground big current or a batt cable chaffing. I would like to not AOG, but
instead fab up a quality replacement from stock.
I've seen Bob's nail & solder / gas-tight technique. Nice.
Only recently have I herd Bob state "there is no such thing as a certified part".
With that in mind I'm starting to think that there is no "certified" tool /
precedence for this repair outside of an OEM or 145. So, If I do this am I making
a "minor repair" or am I making an "unapproved part" w/o a PMA? Logic tells
me the former. I just want to use the closest thing to "acceptable methods".
BTW, the only reference I can find in AC43.13-1B CHG 1 is 11-98i "use appropriate
crimping tools".
All this aside, what do you listers, and Bob, think of the
BANTAM ROTA-CRIMP a.k.a AMP Model 601075-1 and Solistrand branded crimps combo
+ double heat shrink? How about Avery Tools Item #461?
Bill Jones
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Subject: | Re: Which crimper for Big AWG's on both HB *and* Certified? |
Here be what you seek:
http://www.theterminaltool.com/Home_Page.html
If there's anything better I'd like to see it.
Dan
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Subject: | Re: Which crimper for Big AWG's on both HB *and* Certified? |
Harbor Freight has a hydraulic crimper that I am using and have
been extremely pleased with. It makes picture perfect crimps. The dies
are marked incorrectly as to wire gauge and the largest die set will crimp
a 2 AWG terminal even though it's stamped 00. See at:
http://www.harborfreight.com/hydraulic-wire-crimping-tool-66150.html
Chris Stone
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Builder_Bill <jonesw@mindspring.com> wrote:
> jonesw@mindspring.com>
>
> I want to make a decision on sourcing a crimper & terminal set that I can
> use for Big AWG's on both E-AB and certified alike (one tool to rule them
> all).
>
> This question has been eating me for a while. The sound judgement falls to
> me on HB/OBAM, but I've asked around a bit and nobody I've asked can tell
> me what crimper or process is kosher to repair on certified. I didn't ask
> an OEM or a FSDO and wasn't going to.
>
> The next time I see a B-lead terminal that looks like it's about to
> fatigue off and ground big current or a batt cable chaffing. I would like
> to not AOG, but instead fab up a quality replacement from stock.
>
> I've seen Bob's nail & solder / gas-tight technique. Nice.
> Only recently have I herd Bob state "there is no such thing as a certified
> part". With that in mind I'm starting to think that there is no "certified"
> tool / precedence for this repair outside of an OEM or 145. So, If I do
> this am I making a "minor repair" or am I making an "unapproved part" w/o a
> PMA? Logic tells me the former. I just want to use the closest thing to
> "acceptable methods". BTW, the only reference I can find in AC43.13-1B CHG
> 1 is 11-98i "use appropriate crimping tools".
>
> All this aside, what do you listers, and Bob, think of the
> BANTAM ROTA-CRIMP a.k.a AMP Model 601075-1 and Solistrand branded crimps
> combo + double heat shrink? How about Avery Tools Item #461?
>
>
> Bill Jones
> First Post
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Which crimper for Big AWG's on both HB *and* Certified? |
Yeah, I've seen that TT-500 (or maybe the previous version of it) at SteinAir maybe.
As for HF, leave it the them to produce a hydraulic crimper south of $1000, way
south [Shocked] . LOL.
Am I wrong to expect that an airworthy crimp tool should have a strict association
with a line of terminals [Rolling Eyes] . As with Amp/Tyco Crimpers & AMP
PIDG terminals.
Neither of these two tools (TT-500 & HF) advertise a matched brand of terminals,
or do they?
Or an I'm brain washed by the Mil Specs and Standards Groups? :?
Between the two, I lean toward the TT-500, but with a local HF just 1 mile from
me, now I have to go see what $60 in HF $ looks/feels like.
Maybe others can weigh in.
Bill Jones
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Subject: | Re: Which crimper for Big AWG's on both HB *and* |
Certified?
I would agree but it seems to "Out of stock" permanently.
John Ciolino
RV-8
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Here be what you seek:
http://www.theterminaltool.com/Home_Page.html
If there's anything better I'd like to see it.
Dan
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Subject: | Re: Which crimper for Big AWG's on both HB *and* Certified? |
Wow, that TT5000 is looking better all the time. The designer really put his pride
in this puppy. That web site must be redone since I last saw it. The pics
look very convincing.
Bill Jones
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Subject: | Re: Which crimper for Big AWG's on both HB *and* |
Certified?
Bill,
OK, I'll weight in.
That HF crimper works quite well. No special associated terminal is needed. Just
make sure the terminal properly fits the wire size. And ignore the sizes marked
on the tool, they lie. Just pick a set of jaws that fit the wire and lug
in use.
FWIW, I used Perihelion CCA lightweight Fat Wire and the associated Perihelion
connection lugs. Works great, less weight.
Periheliondesign.com or periheliondesign.com/fatwires.htm
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger@mac.com
On Apr 24, 2013, at 8:11 PM, Builder_Bill <jonesw@mindspring.com> wrote:
Yeah, I've seen that TT-500 (or maybe the previous version of it) at SteinAir maybe.
As for HF, leave it the them to produce a hydraulic crimper south of $1000, way
south [Shocked] . LOL.
Am I wrong to expect that an airworthy crimp tool should have a strict association
with a line of terminals [Rolling Eyes] . As with Amp/Tyco Crimpers & AMP
PIDG terminals.
Neither of these two tools (TT-500 & HF) advertise a matched brand of terminals,
or do they?
Or an I'm brain washed by the Mil Specs and Standards Groups? :?
Between the two, I lean toward the TT-500, but with a local HF just 1 mile from
me, now I have to go see what $60 in HF $ looks/feels like.
Maybe others can weigh in.
Bill Jones
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Subject: | Re: Which crimper for Big AWG's on both HB *and* Certified? |
Dam it, now I remember this dude.
Stein had this back ordered last year and said this guy is having a hard time keeping
with US foundries on small runs and is determined to not export the work
or let the quality suffer. Assuming that's the story I can't say I don't sympathize.
I would like to find out if they will be available again.
Bill Jones
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Subject: | 28V to 15.6V @ 5A |
I would venture that the 4A product would do the trick; laptops do not draw that
much current- my laptop power supply is rated at 19V 3.16A.
Johannesburg Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Page
Sent: 24 April 2013 10:37 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: 28V to 15.6V @ 5A
A friend of mine has a requirement to power a laptop requiring 15.6V at 5A from
an aircraft with a 28V system.
This unit is almost what is needed, but the spec is only 4A.
http://www.lonestaraviation.com/Step-Down-Converter-24v-to-16v.html
Is anyone aware of a similar product with a little more power capability ?
Thanks,
Jeff Page
Dream Aircraft Tundra #10
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