AeroElectric-List Digest Archive

Tue 06/25/13


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     1. 01:20 AM - Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 06/24/13 (D L Josephson)
     2. 05:29 AM - Re: #2 Welding Cable (Eric M. Jones)
     3. 10:11 AM - Re: Re: #2 Welding Cable (wynaire@citlink.net)
     4. 10:35 AM - Re: #2 Welding Cable (Eric M. Jones)
     5. 10:52 AM - Re: Re: #2 Welding Cable (Henador Titzoff)
     6. 11:49 AM - Re: Re: #2 Welding Cable (Jay Hyde)
     7. 11:58 AM - Re: Re: #2 Welding Cable (Rob Housman)
     8. 01:09 PM - Re: Re: #2 Welding Cable (wynaire@citlink.net)
     9. 03:00 PM - Re: Re: #2 Welding Cable (Richard Girard)
    10. 03:31 PM - =?utf-8?B?UmU6IEFlcm9FbGVjdHJpYy1MaXN0OiBSZTogIzIgV2VsZGluZyBDYWJsZQ==? (=?utf-8?B?am9obi5tYWNjYWxsdW1AYmlncG9uZC5jb20=?=)
    11. 04:15 PM - =?utf-8?B?UmU6IEFlcm9FbGVjdHJpYy1MaXN0OiDvu79SZTogQWVyb0VsZWN0cmljLUxp?= =?utf-8?B?c3Q6IFJlOiAjMiBXZWxkaW5nIENhYmxl? (Henador Titzoff)
    12. 04:46 PM - Re: Re: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: #2 Welding Cable (Bill)
    13. 06:38 PM - Re: Re: #2 Welding Cable (Neal George)
    14. 07:37 PM - Re: Re: #2 Welding Cable (Henador Titzoff)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:20:53 AM PST US
    From: D L Josephson <dlj04@josephson.com>
    Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 06/24/13
    > From: Chuck Birdsall<cbirdsall6@cox.net> > Subject: AeroElectric-List: ELT antenna location > > > I'm putting a 406MHz ELT (ACK E-04) in my Piper Cherokee in place of > dead OE Narco. > > One of the statements in the installation manual - and in other > references such as AC43.13-2 and antenna manufacturers - says that the > ELT antenna should be at least 36 inches from a Com antenna. Key word: > Should. (snip) > > So the questions are: > Am I going to have to move the Com 2 antenna? > What are the risk factors if I leave the antenna locations as they are? My suggestion is that it will be just fine, assuming that you use the antenna supplied with the E-04. The comm will be affected just as it was with the other ELT antenna there, or maybe a little less. The ELT radiation pattern will be affected, but I would think only slightly, and not at all on 406 MHz. The only risk factor I can think of is that there might be a little more potential for intermodulation if you are transmitting on Com 2 while the ELT is transmitting, but that's a highly unlikely scenario. -- David Josephson


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    Time: 05:29:16 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: #2 Welding Cable
    From: "Eric M. Jones" <emjones@charter.net>
    I've been selling Copper-clad-aluminum Fatwire in several sizes for years. Many many happy users on the Aeroelectric LIst. Top fuel dragsters love it too. Sizes Super-2-CCA and Super-4-CCA both use a VW-1 flame retardant high tech polyester insulation which is as benevolent as an insulation can be. Super-8 uses a TFE "Tefzel" copy (I sell the Super-8 to the military and others). All of these are designed for aircraft use but find uses in balloons, racecars, helicopters, drones, etc., where weight is important. I will gladly send a free sample to interested builders. See attached. -------- Eric M. Jones www.PerihelionDesign.com 113 Brentwood Drive Southbridge, MA 01550 (508) 764-2072 emjones(at)charter.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=403388#403388 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/copper_cables_aluminum_cables_727.pdf


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    Time: 10:11:27 AM PST US
    From: "wynaire@citlink.net" <wynaire@citlink.net>
    Subject: Re: #2 Welding Cable
    Hello Eric,=0AThis may be a "loose canon" question..=0AIn a glass/plastic a ircraft, do both polarity cables need to be the same size [dia.]?- Seems in reality, that there are less electrons "coming back to the battery" than going out..., hence the-allowance-for a smaller pipe! =0AThanks in adv ance,=0AMike W=0ALNC2 360 builder forever ;)=0APS: Your heavy cabling is on my list of must have items. =0A************=0A=0A=0A>_____________________ ___________=0A> From: Eric M. Jones <emjones@charter.net>=0A>To: aeroelectr ic-list@matronics.com =0A>Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 6:28 AM=0A>Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: #2 Welding Cable=0A> =0A>=0A>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Eric M. Jones" <emjones@charter.net>=0A>=0A>I've been s elling Copper-clad-aluminum Fatwire in several sizes for years. Many many h appy users on the Aeroelectric LIst. Top fuel dragsters love it too.=0A>=0A >Sizes Super-2-CCA and Super-4-CCA both use a VW-1 flame retardant high tec h polyester insulation which is as benevolent as an insulation can be. Supe r-8 uses a TFE "Tefzel" copy (I sell the Super-8 to the military and others ).=0A>=0A>All of these are designed for aircraft use but find uses in ballo ons, racecars, helicopters, drones, etc., where weight is important.=0A>=0A >I will gladly send a free sample to interested builders. See attached.=0A> =0A>--------=0A>Eric M. Jones=0A>www.PerihelionDesign.com=0A>113 Brentwood Drive=0A>Southbridge, MA 01550=0A>(508) 764-2072=0A>emjones(at)charter.net =0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>Read this topic online here:=0A>=0A>http://forums.matro nics.com/viewtopic.php?p=403388#403388=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>Attachments: =0A>=0A>http://forums.matronics.com//files/copper_cables_aluminum_cables_72 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, L ==========0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>


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    Time: 10:35:36 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: #2 Welding Cable
    From: "Eric M. Jones" <emjones@charter.net>
    > ...This may be a "loose cannon" question...In a glass/plastic aircraft, do both polarity cables need to be the same size [dia.]? Seems in reality, that there are less electrons "coming back to the battery" than going out..., hence the allowance for a smaller pipe! ...Mike W What a wonderful question! In fact, there are exactly and precisely as many electrons returning as got sent out. Electrons don't go back to "battery rehab" for another trip. The true picture is far more complicated, and if you decided you wanted to know, you'd never finish your airplane. In a metal airplane, letting the metal body carry the ground current is possible but not to be undertaken without some serious engineering work, and might change over time. Letting the metal tube frame carry the ground current likewise is problematic. See attached. -------- Eric M. Jones www.PerihelionDesign.com 113 Brentwood Drive Southbridge, MA 01550 (508) 764-2072 emjones(at)charter.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=403408#403408 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dabbling_with_electricity_385.pdf http://forums.matronics.com//files/dabbling_with_electricity_360.pdf


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    Time: 10:52:08 AM PST US
    From: Henador Titzoff <henador_titzoff@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: #2 Welding Cable
    Mike,=0A=0AAccording to Krucshev's current and voltage law, what you say be low is not true.=0A-=0A=0AHenador Titzoff=0A=0A=0A_______________________ _________=0A From: "wynaire@citlink.net" <wynaire@citlink.net>=0ATo: "aeroe lectric-list@matronics.com" <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com> =0ASent: Tues day, June 25, 2013 1:07 PM=0ASubject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: #2 Welding Cable=0A =0A=0A=0AHello Eric,=0AThis may be a "loose canon" question..=0AI n a glass/plastic aircraft, do both polarity cables need to be the same siz e [dia.]?- Seems in reality, that there are less electrons "coming back t o the battery" than going out..., hence the-allowance-for a smaller pip e! =0AThanks in advance,=0AMike W=0ALNC2 360 builder forever ;)=0APS: Your heavy cabling is on my list of must have items. =0A************=0A=0A=0AFro m: Eric M. Jones <emjones@charter.net>=0A>To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.c om =0A>Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 6:28 AM=0A>Subject: AeroElectric-List: Eric M. Jones" <emjones@charter.net>=0A>=0A>I've been selling=0A Copper-cla d-aluminum Fatwire in several sizes for years. Many many happy users on the Aeroelectric LIst. Top fuel dragsters love it too.=0A>=0A>Sizes Super-2-CC A and Super-4-CCA both use a VW-1 flame retardant high tech polyester insul ation which is as benevolent as an insulation can be. Super-8 uses a TFE "T efzel" copy (I sell the Super-8 to the military and others).=0A>=0A>All of these are designed for aircraft use but find uses in balloons, racecars, he licopters, drones, etc., where weight is important.=0A>=0A>I will gladly se nd a free sample to interested builders. See attached.=0A>=0A>--------=0A>E ric M. Jones=0A>www.PerihelionDesign.com=0A>113 Brentwood Drive=0A>Southbri dge, MA 01550=0A>(508) 764-2072=0A>emjones(at)charter.net=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> =0A>Read this topic online here:=0A>=0A>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtop ic.php?p=403388#403388=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>Attachments: =0A>=0A>http://for ums.matronics.com//files/copper_cables_aluminum_cables_727.pdf http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectbsp; - - - -=0Aums.matronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com/=0A>_; - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralcontribution" target="_blank">http://www.matron =======


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    Time: 11:49:07 AM PST US
    From: "Jay Hyde" <jay@horriblehyde.com>
    Subject: Re: #2 Welding Cable
    Correct; whilst the relative voltage changes in a series circuit, the current stays the same throughout the circuit. We size cables by considering the current through them, and the voltage drop incurred across the line until it gets to the load; the current being the primary factor. Since the current is the same throughout the circuit the return line must be the same size as the supply line. Johannesburg Jay PS I think that it was Kirchoff's law and not Krucshev's J From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Henador Titzoff Sent: 25 June 2013 07:51 PM Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: #2 Welding Cable Mike, According to Krucshev's current and voltage law, what you say below is not true. Henador Titzoff _____ From: "wynaire@citlink.net" <wynaire@citlink.net> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 1:07 PM Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: #2 Welding Cable Hello Eric, This may be a "loose canon" question.. In a glass/plastic aircraft, do both polarity cables need to be the same size [dia.]? Seems in reality, that there are less electrons "coming back to the battery" than going out..., hence the allowance for a smaller pipe! Thanks in advance, Mike W LNC2 360 builder forever ;) PS: Your heavy cabling is on my list of must have items. ************ From: Eric M. Jones <emjones@charter.net> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 6:28 AM Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: #2 Welding Cable <emjones@charter.net> I've been selling Copper-clad-aluminum Fatwire in several sizes for years. Many many happy users on the Aeroelectric LIst. Top fuel dragsters love it too. Sizes Super-2-CCA and Super-4-CCA both use a VW-1 flame retardant high tech polyester insulation which is as benevolent as an insulation can be. Super-8 uses a TFE "Tefzel" copy (I sell the Super-8 to the military and others). All of these are designed for aircraft use but find uses in balloons, racecars, helicopters, drones, etc., where weight is important. I will gladly send a free sample to interested builders. See attached. -------- Eric M. Jones www.PerihelionDesign.com 113 Brentwood Drive Southbridge, MA 01550 (508) 764-2072 emjones(at)charter.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=403388#403388 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/copper_cables_aluminum_cables_727.pdf http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectbsp; <http://forums.matronics.com/files/copper_cables_aluminum_cables_727.pdf> ums.matronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com/ _; -Matt Dralcontribution" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ank" href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List">http://wt; http://www.matronics.com/contrib============== <http://forums.matronics.co=> <http://forums.matronics.co=> <http://forums.matronics.co=> <http://forums.matronics.co=> <http://forums.matronics.co=> <http://forums.matronics.co=> Forum - to browse Un/Subscription, Chat, FAQ, http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List


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    Time: 11:58:29 AM PST US
    From: "Rob Housman" <rob@hyperion-ef.com>
    Subject: Re: #2 Welding Cable
    It was Kirchhoff's Law way back when I was an undergraduate in engineering. Best regards, Rob Housman Irvine, California Europa XS Rotax 914 S/N A070 Airframe complete Avionics soon From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Henador Titzoff Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:51 AM Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: #2 Welding Cable Mike, According to Krucshev's current and voltage law, what you say below is not true. Henador Titzoff _____ From: "wynaire@citlink.net" <wynaire@citlink.net> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 1:07 PM Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: #2 Welding Cable Hello Eric, This may be a "loose canon" question.. In a glass/plastic aircraft, do both polarity cables need to be the same size [dia.]? Seems in reality, that there are less electrons "coming back to the battery" than going out..., hence the allowance for a smaller pipe! Thanks in advance, Mike W LNC2 360 builder forever ;) PS: Your heavy cabling is on my list of must have items. ************ From: Eric M. Jones <emjones@charter.net> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 6:28 AM Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: #2 Welding Cable <emjones@charter.net> I've been selling Copper-clad-aluminum Fatwire in several sizes for years. Many many happy users on the Aeroelectric LIst. Top fuel dragsters love it too. Sizes Super-2-CCA and Super-4-CCA both use a VW-1 flame retardant high tech polyester insulation which is as benevolent as an insulation can be. Super-8 uses a TFE "Tefzel" copy (I sell the Super-8 to the military and others). All of these are designed for aircraft use but find uses in balloons, racecars, helicopters, drones, etc., where weight is important. I will gladly send a free sample to interested builders. See attached. -------- Eric M. Jones www.PerihelionDesign.com 113 Brentwood Drive Southbridge, MA 01550 (508) 764-2072 emjones(at)charter.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=403388#403388 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/copper_cables_aluminum_cables_727.pdf http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectbsp; <http://forums.matronics.com/files/copper_cables_aluminum_cables_727.pdf> ums.matronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com/ _; -Matt Dralcontribution" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ank" href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List">http://wt; http://www.matronics.com/contrib============== <http://forums.matronics.co=> <http://forums.matronics.co=> <http://forums.matronics.co=> <http://forums.matronics.co=> <http://forums.matronics.co=> <http://forums.matronics.co=> Forum - to browse Un/Subscription, Chat, FAQ, http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List


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    Time: 01:09:41 PM PST US
    From: "wynaire@citlink.net" <wynaire@citlink.net>
    Subject: Re: #2 Welding Cable
    Thanks for your clear reply to my [humor intended] question. Ironic that yo u mention the ex-USSR president, as he remains a hero to some friends [USSR ], primarily for trying to get corn started in the countryside. Better it h ad been "popcorn." I still enjoy watching kids eyes when popping in a bag o f micro-waveable corn for them, on visits [Belarus].=C2-=C2- Mank=0A=0A =0A>________________________________=0A> From: Jay Hyde <jay@horriblehyde.c om>=0A>To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com =0A>Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 12:48 PM=0A>Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Re: #2 Welding Cable=0A> =0A> =0A>=0A>Correct; whilst the relative voltage changes in a series circuit, t he current stays the same throughout the circuit.=C2- We size cables by c onsidering the current through them, and the voltage drop incurred across t he line until it gets to the load; the current being the primary factor.=C2 - Since the current is the same throughout the circuit the return line mu st be the same size as the supply line.=0A>=C2-=0A>Johannesburg Jay=0A>PS I think that it was Kirchoff=99s law and not Krucshev=99s=C2 - J=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>From:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics. com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hena dor Titzoff=0A>Sent: 25 June 2013 07:51 PM=0A>To: aeroelectric-list@matroni cs.com=0A>Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: #2 Welding Cable=0A>=C2-=0A >Mike,=0A>=0A>According to Krucshev's current and voltage law, what you say below is not true.=0A>=C2-=0A>Henador Titzoff=0A>=0A>___________________ _____________=0A>=0A>From:"wynaire@citlink.net" <wynaire@citlink.net>=0A>To : "aeroelectric-list@matronics.com" <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com> =0A>S ent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 1:07 PM=0A>Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: #2 Welding Cable=0A>=C2-=0A>Hello Eric,=0A>This may be a "loose canon" qu estion..=0A>In a glass/plastic aircraft, do both polarity cables need to be the same size [dia.]?=C2- Seems in reality, that there are less electron s "coming back to the battery" than going out..., hence the=C2-allowance =C2-for a smaller pipe! =0A>Thanks in advance,=0A>Mike W=0A>LNC2 360 buil der forever ;)=0A>PS: Your heavy cabling is on my list of must have items. =0A>************=0A>=C2-=0A>>From:Eric M. Jones <emjones@charter.net>=0A> >To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com =0A>>Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 6:28 AM=0A>>Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: #2 Welding Cable=0A>>=0A>>--> AeroE lectric-List message posted by: "Eric M. Jones" <emjones@charter.net>=0A>> =0A>>I've been selling Copper-clad-aluminum Fatwire in several sizes for ye ars. Many many happy users on the Aeroelectric LIst. Top fuel dragsters lov e it too.=0A>>=0A>>Sizes Super-2-CCA and Super-4-CCA both use a VW-1 flame retardant high tech polyester insulation which is as benevolent as an insul ation can be. Super-8 uses a TFE "Tefzel" copy (I sell the Super-8 to the m ilitary and others).=0A>>=0A>>All of these are designed for aircraft use bu t find uses in balloons, racecars, helicopters, drones, etc., where weight is important.=0A>>=0A>>I will gladly send a free sample to interested build ers. See attached.=0A>>=0A>>--------=0A>>Eric M. Jones=0A>>http://www.perih eliondesign.com/=0A>>113 Brentwood Drive=0A>>Southbridge, MA 01550=0A>>(508 ) 764-2072=0A>>emjones(at)charter.net=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Read this top ic online here:=0A>>=0A>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=4033 88#403388=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Attachments: =0A>>=0A>>http://forums.matr onics.com/files/copper_cables_aluminum_cables_727.pdf=0A>>_; =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralcontribution" ta rget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>> =0A>>=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>ank" href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigato r?AeroElectric-List">http://wt/; http://forums.matronics.co=/=0A>=C2- =0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator? AeroElectric-List=0A>http://forums.matronics.com=0A>http://www.matronics.co =0A>=0A>


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    Time: 03:00:41 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: #2 Welding Cable
    From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
    Kruschev's Law says: "Politicians are the same everywhere, they want to build you a bridge when you have no river." Rick Girard do not archive On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Rob Housman <rob@hyperion-ef.com> wrote: > It was Kirchhoff's Law way back when I was an undergraduate in engineering. > **** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Best regards,**** > > ** ** > > Rob Housman**** > > ** ** > > Irvine, California**** > > Europa XS**** > > Rotax 914**** > > S/N A070**** > > Airframe complete**** > > Avionics soon**** > > ** ** > > *From:* owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Henador > Titzoff > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:51 AM > > *To:* aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: #2 Welding Cable**** > > ** ** > > Mike, > > According to Krucshev's current and voltage law, what you say below is not > true. > **** > > Henador Titzoff**** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* "wynaire@citlink.net" <wynaire@citlink.net> > *To:* "aeroelectric-list@matronics.com" <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 25, 2013 1:07 PM > *Subject:* Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: #2 Welding Cable**** > > ** ** > > Hello Eric,**** > > This may be a "loose canon" question..**** > > In a glass/plastic aircraft, do both polarity cables need to be the same > size [dia.]? Seems in reality, that there are less electrons "coming back > to the battery" than going out..., hence the allowance for a smaller pipe! > **** > > Thanks in advance,**** > > Mike W**** > > LNC2 360 builder forever ;)**** > > PS: Your heavy cabling is on my list of must have items. **** > > **************** > > ** ** > > *From:* Eric M. Jones <emjones@charter.net> > *To:* aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 25, 2013 6:28 AM > *Subject:* AeroElectric-List: Re: #2 Welding Cable**** > > > emjones@charter.net> > > I've been selling Copper-clad-aluminum Fatwire in several sizes for years. > Many many happy users on the Aeroelectric LIst. Top fuel dragsters love it > too. > > Sizes Super-2-CCA and Super-4-CCA both use a VW-1 flame retardant high > tech polyester insulation which is as benevolent as an insulation can be. > Super-8 uses a TFE "Tefzel" copy (I sell the Super-8 to the military and > others). > > All of these are designed for aircraft use but find uses in balloons, > racecars, helicopters, drones, etc., where weight is important. > > I will gladly send a free sample to interested builders. See attached. > > -------- > Eric M. Jones > www.PerihelionDesign.com > 113 Brentwood Drive > Southbridge, MA 01550 > (508) 764-2072 > emjones(at)charter.net > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=403388#403388 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/copper_cables_aluminum_cables_727.pdf > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectbsp; > ums.matronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com/<http://forums.matronics.com/files/copper_cables_aluminum_cables_727.pdf> > _; -Matt Dralcontribution" target="_blank"> > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > **** > > * * > > * * > > *ank" href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List">http://wt; http://www.matronics.com/contrib=============== <http://forums.matronics.co=>* > > * <http://forums.matronics.co=>* > > * > > > <http://forums.matronics.co=>* > > * <http://forums.matronics.co=>* > > * <http://forums.matronics.co=>* > > * <http://forums.matronics.co=>* > > * <http://forums.matronics.co=>* > > * <http://forums.matronics.co=>* > > * <http://forums.matronics.co=>* > > * <http://forums.matronics.co=>* > > * <http://forums.matronics.co=>* > > * <http://forums.matronics.co=>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List <http://forums.matronics.co=>* > > ** > > ** > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > ** > > * * > > * > > * > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx


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    Time: 04:15:19 PM PST US
    From: Henador Titzoff <henador_titzoff@yahoo.com>
    Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IEFlcm9FbGVjdHJpYy1MaXN0OiDvu79SZTogQWVyb0VsZWN0cmljLUxp?=
    =?utf-8?B?c3Q6IFJlOiAjMiBXZWxkaW5nIENhYmxl? John, actually it's Kirchoff's voltage and current laws.=C2- He formulate d them in 1845, which is way back before we had EE decrees.=0A=0AWhen I arr ived on the crypto scene in 1969, the old timers had been calling them Khru shchev's voltage and current laws as a JOKE.=C2- Do you guys get it?=C2 - Both names start with a K and kinda sound alike unless you're German or Russian.=C2- Then they don't.=0A=C2-=0A=0AHenador Titzoff=0A=0A=0A____ ____________________________=0A From: "john.maccallum@bigpond.com" <john.ma ccallum@bigpond.com>=0ATo: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Tuesday , June 25, 2013 6:30 PM=0ASubject: AeroElectric-List: =EF=BBRe: AeroElec tric-List: Re: #2 Welding Cable=0A =0A=0A=0AKirchoffs law I think you mean. The sum of the current flowing into a node is equal to the sum of the curr ent flowing out of a node. Or in other words you need the same size cables. =0ACheers =0AJohn MacCallum=0A=0ASent from my HTC One XL on the Telstra 4G network=0A=0A=0A----- Reply message -----=0AFrom: "Henador Titzoff" <henado r_titzoff@yahoo.com>=0ATo: "aeroelectric-list@matronics.com" <aeroelectric- list@matronics.com>=0ASubject: AeroElectric-List: Re: #2 Welding Cable=0ADa te: Wed, Jun 26, 2013 01:51=0A=0A=0AMike,=0A=0AAccording to Krucshev's curr ent and voltage law, what you say below is not true.=0A=C2-=0A=0AHenador Titzoff=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: "wynaire@citlink.n et" <wynaire@citlink.net>=0ATo: "aeroelectric-list@matronics.com" <aeroelec tric-list@matronics.com> =0ASent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 1:07 PM=0ASubject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: #2 Welding Cable=0A=0A=0A=0AHello Eric,=0AThis may be a "loose canon" question..=0AIn a glass/plastic aircraft, do both po larity cables need to be the same size [dia.]?=C2- Seems in reality, that there are less electrons "coming back to the battery" than going out..., h ence the=C2-allowance=C2-for a smaller pipe! =0AThanks in advance,=0AMi ke W=0ALNC2 360 builder forever ;)=0APS: Your heavy cabling is on my list o f must have items. =0A************=0A=0A=0AFrom: Eric M. Jones <emjones@cha rter.net>=0A>To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com =0A>Sent: Tuesday, June 25 , 2013 6:28 AM=0A>Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: #2 Welding Cable=0A> =0A> er.net>=0A>=0A>I've been selling=0ACopper-clad-aluminum Fatwire in several sizes for years. Many many happy users on the Aeroelectric LIst. Top fuel d ragsters love it too.=0A>=0A>Sizes Super-2-CCA and Super-4-CCA both use a V W-1 flame retardant high tech polyester insulation which is as benevolent a s an insulation can be. Super-8 uses a TFE "Tefzel" copy (I sell the Super- 8 to the military and others).=0A>=0A>All of these are designed for aircraf t use but find uses in balloons, racecars, helicopters, drones, etc., where weight is important.=0A>=0A>I will gladly send a free sample to interested builders. See attached.=0A>=0A>--------=0A>Eric M. Jones=0A>www.Perihelion Design.com=0A>113 Brentwood Drive=0A>Southbridge, MA 01550=0A>(508) 764-207 2=0A>emjones(at)charter.net=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>Read this topic online here: =0A>=0A>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=403388#403388=0A>=0A> =0A>=0A>=0A>Attachments: =0A>=0A>http://forums.matronics.com//files/copper_ cables_aluminum_cables_727.pdf http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElect bsp; =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2-=0Aums.matronics.com/" target="_blank">ht tp://forums.matronics.com/=0A>_; =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralcontribution" target="_blank">http://www.m atron======


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    Time: 04:46:36 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: AeroElectric-List:
    Re: #2 Welding Cable
    From: Bill <wtrooper@gmail.com>
    Hey Henador - Good joke - too much damage control but I get it now (I am also prepared to accept "EE decrees" as another joke . . ?). All is well - Bill SF bay area On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Henador Titzoff <henador_titzoff@yahoo.com>wrote: > John, actually it's Kirchoff's voltage and current laws. He formulated > them in 1845, which is way back before we had EE decrees. > > When I arrived on the crypto scene in 1969, the old timers had been > calling them Khrushchev's voltage and current laws as a JOKE. Do you guy s > get it? Both names start with a K and kinda sound alike unless you're > German or Russian. Then they don't. > > Henador Titzoff > ------------------------------ > *From:* "john.maccallum@bigpond.com" <john.maccallum@bigpond.com> > *To:* aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 25, 2013 6:30 PM > *Subject:* AeroElectric-List: =EF=BBRe: AeroElectric-List: Re: #2 Weld ing Cable > > Kirchoffs law I think you mean. The sum of the current flowing into a nod e > is equal to the sum of the current flowing out of a node. Or in other wor ds > you need the same size cables. > Cheers > John MacCallum > > Sent from my HTC One XL on the Telstra 4G network > > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: "Henador Titzoff" <henador_titzoff@yahoo.com> > To: "aeroelectric-list@matronics.com" <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com> > Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: #2 Welding Cable > Date: Wed, Jun 26, 2013 01:51 > > > Mike, > > According to Krucshev's current and voltage law, what you say below is no t > true. > > > Henador Titzoff > > > ________________________________ > From: "wynaire@citlink.net" <wynaire@citlink.net> > To: "aeroelectric-list@matronics.com" <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 1:07 PM > Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: #2 Welding Cable > > > Hello Eric, > This may be a "loose canon" question.. > In a glass/plastic aircraft, do both polarity cables need to be the same > size [dia.]? Seems in reality, that there are less electrons "coming bac k > to the battery" than going out..., hence the allowance for a smaller pipe ! > Thanks in advance, > Mike W > LNC2 360 builder forever ;) > PS: Your heavy cabling is on my list of must have items. > ************ > > > From: Eric M. Jones <emjones@charter.net> > >To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > >Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 6:28 AM > >Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: #2 Welding Cable > > > > > emjones@charter.net> > > > >I've been selling > Copper-clad-aluminum Fatwire in several sizes for years. Many many happy > users on the Aeroelectric LIst. Top fuel dragsters love it too. > > > >Sizes Super-2-CCA and Super-4-CCA both use a VW-1 flame retardant high > tech polyester insulation which is as benevolent as an insulation can be. > Super-8 uses a TFE "Tefzel" copy (I sell the Super-8 to the military and > others). > > > >All of these are designed for aircraft use but find uses in balloons, > racecars, helicopters, drones, etc., where weight is important. > > > >I will gladly send a free sample to interested builders. See attached. > > > >-------- > >Eric M. Jones > >www.PerihelionDesign.com > >113 Brentwood Drive > >Southbridge, MA 01550 > >(508) 764-2072 > >emjones(at)charter.net > > > > > > > > > >Read this topic online here: > > > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=403388#403388 > > > > > > > > > >Attachments: > > > >http://forums.matronics.com//files/copper_cables_aluminum_cables_727.pdf > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectbsp; > ums.matronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com/ > >_; -Matt Dralcontribution" target="_blank"> > http://www.matron====== > > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > >


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    Time: 06:38:57 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: #2 Welding Cable
    From: Neal George <neal.george@gmail.com>
    Wasn't Krucshev the guy with the shoe...? Neal George Sent from my iPhone On Jun 25, 2013, at 1:57 PM, "Rob Housman" <rob@hyperion-ef.com> wrote: > It was Kirchhoff's Law way back when I was an undergraduate in engineering . > > > Best regards, > > Rob Housman > > Irvine, California > Europa XS > Rotax 914 > S/N A070 > Airframe complete > Avionics soon > > From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelect ric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Henador Titzoff > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:51 AM > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: #2 Welding Cable > > Mike, > > According to Krucshev's current and voltage law, what you say below is not true. > > Henador Titzoff > From: "wynaire@citlink.net" <wynaire@citlink.net> > To: "aeroelectric-list@matronics.com" <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 1:07 PM > Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: #2 Welding Cable > > Hello Eric, > This may be a "loose canon" question.. > In a glass/plastic aircraft, do both polarity cables need to be the same s ize [dia.]? Seems in reality, that there are less electrons "coming back to the battery" than going out..., hence the allowance for a smaller pipe! > Thanks in advance, > Mike W > LNC2 360 builder forever ;) > PS: Your heavy cabling is on my list of must have items. > ************ > > From: Eric M. Jones <emjones@charter.net> > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 6:28 AM > Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: #2 Welding Cable > net> > > I've been selling Copper-clad-aluminum Fatwire in several sizes for years. Many many happy users on the Aeroelectric LIst. Top fuel dragsters love it t oo. > > Sizes Super-2-CCA and Super-4-CCA both use a VW-1 flame retardant high tec h polyester insulation which is as benevolent as an insulation can be. Super -8 uses a TFE "Tefzel" copy (I sell the Super-8 to the military and others). > > All of these are designed for aircraft use but find uses in balloons, race cars, helicopters, drones, etc., where weight is important. > > I will gladly send a free sample to interested builders. See attached. > > -------- > Eric M. Jones > www.PerihelionDesign.com > 113 Brentwood Drive > Southbridge, MA 01550 > (508) 764-2072 > emjones(at)charter.net > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=403388#403388 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/copper_cables_aluminum_cables_727.pdf h ttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectbsp; ums.matronics.com/" t arget="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com/ > _; -Matt Dralcontribution" target="_blank">http://www. matronics.com/contribution > > > > > > > > ank" href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List">http:// wt; http://www.matronics.com/contrib============== > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List > http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    From: Henador Titzoff <henador_titzoff@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: #2 Welding Cable
    Yes, Neal, everybody thought Krushchev was a heel, but he had a lot of sole .=0A=0A-=0AHenador Titzoff=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A Fr om: Neal George <neal.george@gmail.com>=0ATo: "aeroelectric-list@matronics. com" <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com> =0ASent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 9:37 PM=0ASubject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: #2 Welding Cable=0A =0A=0A=0AWasn 't Krucshev the guy with the shoe...?=0A=0ANeal George=0ASent from my iPhon e=0A=0AOn Jun 25, 2013, at 1:57 PM, "Rob Housman" <rob@hyperion-ef.com> wro te:=0A=0A=0AIt was Kirchhoff's Law way back when I was an undergraduate in engineering.=0A>-=0A>-=0A>Best regards,=0A>-=0A>Rob Housman=0A>-=0A >Irvine, California=0A>Europa XS=0A>Rotax 914=0A>S/N A070=0A>Airframe compl ete=0A>Avionics soon=0A>-=0A>From:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronic s.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of He nador Titzoff=0A>Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:51 AM=0A>To: aeroelectric- list@matronics.com=0A>Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: #2 Welding Cable =0A>-=0A>Mike,=0A>=0A>According to Krucshev's current and voltage law, wh at you say below is not true.=0A>-=0A>Henador Titzoff=0A>=0A>____________ ____________________=0A>=0A>From:"wynaire@citlink.net" <wynaire@citlink.net >=0A>To: "aeroelectric-list@matronics.com" <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > =0A>Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 1:07 PM=0A>Subject: Re: AeroElectric-Lis t: Re: #2 Welding Cable=0A>-=0A>Hello Eric,=0A>This may be a "loose canon " question..=0A>In a glass/plastic aircraft, do both polarity cables need t o be the same size [dia.]?- Seems in reality, that there are less electro ns "coming back to the battery" than going out..., hence the-allowance- for a smaller pipe! =0A>Thanks in advance,=0A>Mike W=0A>LNC2 360 builder fo rever ;)=0A>PS: Your heavy cabling is on my list of must have items. =0A>** **********=0A>-=0A>>From:Eric M. Jones <emjones@charter.net>=0A>>To: aero electric-list@matronics.com =0A>>Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 6:28 AM=0A>>S ubject: AeroElectric-List: Re: #2 Welding Cable=0A>>=0A>>--> AeroElectric-L ist message posted by: "Eric M. Jones" <emjones@charter.net>=0A>>=0A>>I've been selling Copper-clad-aluminum Fatwire in several sizes for years. Many many happy users on the Aeroelectric LIst. Top fuel dragsters love it too. =0A>>=0A>>Sizes Super-2-CCA and Super-4-CCA both use a VW-1 flame retardant high tech polyester insulation which is as benevolent as an insulation can be. Super-8 uses a TFE "Tefzel" copy (I sell the Super-8 to the military a nd others).=0A>>=0A>>All of these are designed for aircraft use but find us es in balloons, racecars, helicopters, drones, etc., where weight is import ant.=0A>>=0A>>I will gladly send a free sample to interested builders. See attached.=0A>>=0A>>--------=0A>>Eric M. Jones=0A>>www.PerihelionDesign.com =0A>>113 Brentwood Drive=0A>>Southbridge, MA 01550=0A>>(508) 764-2072=0A>>e mjones(at)charter.net=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Read this topic online here: =0A>>=0A>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=403388#403388=0A>> =0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Attachments: =0A>>=0A>>http://forums.matronics.com//fil es/copper_cables_aluminum_cables_727.pdf http://www.matronics.com/Navigator ?AeroElectbsp; - - - - ums.matronics.com/" target="_blank">http:/ /forums.matronics.com/=0A>>_; - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dra lcontribution" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution=0A>> =0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>-=0A>-=0A>ank" href="http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?AeroElectric-List">http://wt; http://www.matronics.com/contrib ================0A>-=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>- =0A>-=0A>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List=0A>http://f orums.matronics.com=0A>http://www.matronics.com/contribution=0A>-== =========0Ast">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElect ric-List=0A===================== ===============0Acs.com=0A======= ====0Amatronics.com/contribution=0A=========== ======================== =================




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