---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 09/25/13: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:41 AM - Re: Failed brownout battery experiment (Eric M. Jones) 2. 07:59 AM - Re: Re: Failed brownout battery experiment (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 3. 08:40 AM - Re: Re: Failed brownout battery experiment (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 4. 01:01 PM - Re: Failed brownout battery experiment (user9253) 5. 03:20 PM - Re: Re: Failed brownout battery experiment (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 6. 04:57 PM - Re: Failed brownout battery experiment (user9253) 7. 05:57 PM - Re: Re: Failed brownout battery experiment (Henador Titzoff) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:41:04 AM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Failed brownout battery experiment From: "Eric M. Jones" Joe, If you want, I'll send you my prototype DeSlumpifier for testing, since it is just sitting on my desk gathering cat hair. Contact me at Perihelion at charter dot net. Eric -------- Eric M. Jones www.PerihelionDesign.com 113 Brentwood Drive Southbridge, MA 01550 (508) 764-2072 emjones(at)charter.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409174#409174 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:59:41 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Failed brownout battery experiment At 07:40 AM 9/25/2013, you wrote: > >Joe, > >If you want, I'll send you my prototype DeSlumpifier for testing, >since it is just sitting on my desk gathering cat hair. > >Contact me at Perihelion at charter dot net. Joe, it would be an excellent experiment to put Eric's hardware to the test in real hardware. In the mean time, send me the booster you bought and let me do some tests on it as well. There should be NO significant AC component on its output. Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:40:44 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Failed brownout battery experiment At 08:14 PM 9/24/2013, you wrote: > >Failed again. >The DC to DC voltage booster arrived from China. I connected it to >the battery bus through an inline fuse and an on-off switch. The >output of the voltage booster is connected to Dynon D-180 pin 15, >the external backup power input. When the primary power to the >D-180 pin 1 was shut off, the D-180 stayed on for a few seconds, >then rebooted, shut off and rebooted, shut off and rebooted, over >and over. The output of the DC to DC booster is set at 13 VDC. I >then measured the voltage with the digital meter set to the AC >range. It measured 28 volts AC. The D-180 must not like that. I >tried connecting a 22,000 microfarad capacitor to the output of the >DC to DC booster, but that did not help. So I removed the voltage >booster and gave up on that idea. >Joe > >-------- >Joe Gores > > Which booster did you order? Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:01:13 PM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Failed brownout battery experiment From: "user9253" Bob, I communicated privately with Eric and he is sending me his DeSlumpifier for testing. Thanks Eric. OK Bob, I will send you the voltage booster. I have your address: PO Box 130. Joe -------- Joe Gores Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409216#409216 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:20:29 PM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Failed brownout battery experiment At 02:59 PM 9/25/2013, you wrote: > >Bob, >I communicated privately with Eric and he is sending me his >DeSlumpifier for testing. Thanks Eric. >OK Bob, I will send you the voltage booster. I have your address: PO Box 130. >Joe Which booster did you order? Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:57:20 PM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Failed brownout battery experiment From: "user9253" http://www.ebay.com/itm/Auto-DC-Boost-Buck-Adjustable-Converter-Solar-Volt-Regulator-4-5-32V-to-1-25-32V-/350854774856?ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:US:3160 Above is a link to the voltage booster that I ordered. It only cost $3.25. They say you get what you pay for. It cost a little more than some others, but still cheap. The copper coils looked impressive compared to some other units without them. I can not find any more like mine for sale on eBay. People must not be satisfied with them or else they would still be for sale. I bench tested it before giving the seller positive feedback. But I neglected to check the AC component of the output until it failed to power the Dynon D-180. Do you still want me to send the unit to you Bob, or should we just consider it a poor design and toss it? Joe -------- Joe Gores Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409234#409234 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:57:56 PM PST US From: Henador Titzoff Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Failed brownout battery experiment Joe, all these DC to DC converters have ripple on their outputs, because th ey have to convert the input DC to AC, then rectify it and filter it on the way out.- On this particular model, you will see 180 KHz ripple plus har monics.- Unfortunately, the ripple amplitude is not specified.- On top of that, it is not protected for input reverse polarity.- I believe you m entioned earlier that you tried switching input leads to see if the AC comp onent went away.=0A=0A=0AI personally would not buy this product without th e output ripple spec defined, especially for aviation applications.- I'm also leery of Made in China products, although I know some are excellent. =0A=0A-=0AHenador Titzoff=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A Fro m: user9253 =0ATo: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com =0ASe nt: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 7:55 PM=0ASubject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Failed brownout battery experiment=0A =0A=0A--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "user9253" =0A=0Ahttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Auto -DC-Boost-Buck-Adjustable-Converter-Solar-Volt-Regulator-4-5-32V-to-1-25-32 V-/350854774856?ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:US:3160=0AAbove is a link to the vol tage booster that I ordered.- It only cost $3.25.- They say you get wha t you pay for.- It cost a little more than some others, but still cheap. - The copper coils looked impressive compared to some other units without them.- I can not find any more like mine for sale on eBay.- People mus t not be satisfied with them or else they would still be for sale.- I ben ch tested it before giving the seller positive feedback.- But I neglected to check the AC component of the output until it failed to power the Dynon D-180.- Do you still want me to send the unit to you Bob, or should we j ust consider it a poor design and toss it?=0AJoe=0A=0A--------=0AJoe Gores =0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.co ============= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message aeroelectric-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.