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1. 06:24 PM - Re: Electric System architecture (Richard Girard)
2. 07:26 PM - Re: Electric System architecture (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
3. 08:30 PM - Re: Electric System architecture (rayj)
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| Subject: | Re: Electric System architecture |
Bob, Your first two articles for Kitplanes were just first rate. I will
look forward to the architecture article.
The people who produce Kitplanes continue to amaze me. I may not be able to
appreciate every article, but I never fail to read it cover to cover.
Wish I could say the same for the EAA mag. Once I get past Mike Busch's
monthly contribution, I'm pretty much done. Perhaps someone should make the
suggestion to EAA that they offer members the option of Kitplanes instead
of Sport Aviation. SA is the better coffee table magazine, but Kitplanes is
the one that goes to the shop.
Rick Girard
do not archive
On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <
nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> wrote:
> At 03:34 PM 10/3/2013, you wrote:
>
> Bob & Carlos,
>
> What a great, and insightful, exchange of information and facts.
> Clear, concise, and easily readable.**
>
>
> Since Carlos has a Vertical Power product in his
> airplane, this won't be a design study starting
> from a clean piece of paper but discussions for
> integrating accessories around the Vertical Power
> architecture can still be shared.
>
> I'm contemplating an article for KitPlanes that
> will describe the clean piece of paper approach
> to system architecture in an OBAM aircraft.
>
> This is a pretty strange idea for most pilots.
> The vast majority of OBAM aircraft emulate the
> architectures of TC aircraft. At the same time,
> TC aircraft are very cookie-cutter like in their
> design and manufacture.
>
> It's a whole new idea to flip through the z-figures
> (or a Vertical Power catalog) and contemplate the
> opportunities traded off with personal design goals.
> Too many builders have their battery, alternator and
> switches already attached to the airplane before
> they get serious about how they'll all work with
> each other to meet design goals not yet formalized.
>
> Getting the cart so far in front of the horse
> is not a high risk activity but it does limit
> opportunities to have a system that the builder
> understands because it's designed it to a goal
> as opposed to a collection of cherry-picked ideas
> thrown into a basket before the best possible
> recipe for success is discovered.
>
> I'll try to bring some of the thought processes
> proven useful in TC aviation for decades to what
> has become the real leading edge in light aircraft
> design and fabrication. The ideal evolution of
> a project has the recipe 98% defined before
> the first hole is drilled.
>
> Not a really big deal . . . most electrical bad days
> in the cockpit are the product of poor craftsmanship
> and/or maintenance as opposed to selection of
> components and architecture. Very rarely do we
> hear of an instance where architecture was the
> driving force for a bad day in the airplane.
>
> I'm still waiting for permission to share the
> data from one such case that is now settled.
> The folks who paid my exorbitant fees to
> analyze the event own the work product.
> I hope to have some videos and other documents
> to share.
>
> In any event, one does not have to 'bake somebody
> else's cookies' to avoid serious error. That's what
> we do here on the List. Carlos is putting the
> frosting and chocolate sprinkles on a recipe
> with a proven track record so our imaginings are
> already bounded . . . and that's okay.
>
> **
>
> ** Bob . . .
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | Re: Electric System architecture |
At 08:23 PM 10/6/2013, you wrote:
>Bob, Your first two articles for Kitplanes were just first rate. I
>will look forward to the architecture article.
>The people who produce Kitplanes continue to amaze me. I may not be
>able to appreciate every article, but I never fail to read it cover to cover.
>Wish I could say the same for the EAA mag. Once I get past Mike
>Busch's monthly contribution, I'm pretty much done. Perhaps someone
>should make the suggestion to EAA that they offer members the option
>of Kitplanes instead of Sport Aviation. SA is the better coffee
>table magazine, but Kitplanes is the one that goes to the shop.
>
>Rick Girard
>do not archive
Thank you sir. I've had that discussion with the
SA editors several times over the years dating back
to the days of Jack and Golda Cox. They used to send me
articles for critical review too. But the higher
ups (In the warbirds faction I think) raised a fuss about
some of my work-product and strong-armed them
into publishing some bad stuff. That's what
prompted this piece on my website.
http://tinyurl.com/ltrhnr8
A year or two later I got a call from and
SA editor. He'd seen my review and claimed to
be appalled that this class of article had
been printed in SA. He promised to do better.
Even said he had a budget to pay for articles.
A short time later, he called again asking if
I had something to give him . . . seems somebody
dropped a ball. I spent two hard evenings cranking
out a 'filler' which did get published . . . but
alas . . . no check was forthcoming.
That was the last time I had any contact with
the folks at SA. Paul Dye called me last spring
and asked if I would write for KP. I said 'sure'.
What's more, his checks don't bounce.
Compared to SA I believe KP to be a class act.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Electric System architecture |
Speaking of SA, is the article on the downwind turn (page 12, Oct.
issue) as off the mark as I think, or do I need to study my physics?
do not archive
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN.
"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,
and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine
On 10/06/2013 09:25 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
> <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
>
> At 08:23 PM 10/6/2013, you wrote:
>> Bob, Your first two articles for Kitplanes were just first rate. I
>> will look forward to the architecture article.
>> The people who produce Kitplanes continue to amaze me. I may not be
>> able to appreciate every article, but I never fail to read it cover
>> to cover.
>> Wish I could say the same for the EAA mag. Once I get past Mike
>> Busch's monthly contribution, I'm pretty much done. Perhaps someone
>> should make the suggestion to EAA that they offer members the option
>> of Kitplanes instead of Sport Aviation. SA is the better coffee table
>> magazine, but Kitplanes is the one that goes to the shop.
>>
>> Rick Girard
>> do not archive
>
> Thank you sir. I've had that discussion with the
> SA editors several times over the years dating back
> to the days of Jack and Golda Cox. They used to send me
> articles for critical review too. But the higher
> ups (In the warbirds faction I think) raised a fuss about
> some of my work-product and strong-armed them
> into publishing some bad stuff. That's what
> prompted this piece on my website.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ltrhnr8
>
> A year or two later I got a call from and
> SA editor. He'd seen my review and claimed to
> be appalled that this class of article had
> been printed in SA. He promised to do better.
> Even said he had a budget to pay for articles.
>
> A short time later, he called again asking if
> I had something to give him . . . seems somebody
> dropped a ball. I spent two hard evenings cranking
> out a 'filler' which did get published . . . but
> alas . . . no check was forthcoming.
>
> That was the last time I had any contact with
> the folks at SA. Paul Dye called me last spring
> and asked if I would write for KP. I said 'sure'.
> What's more, his checks don't bounce.
>
> Compared to SA I believe KP to be a class act.
>
>
> Bob . . .
>
>
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