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1. 09:26 AM - Switches (Carlos Trigo)
2. 10:23 AM - Re: Switches (The Kuffels)
3. 10:35 AM - Re: Switches (Carlos Trigo)
4. 11:02 AM - Re: kitfox /rotax 912 wiring diagram (variation on Z-16) (user9253)
5. 11:49 AM - Re: Switches (The Kuffels)
6. 01:35 PM - Re: Switches (Bob McCallum)
7. 03:46 PM - Re: Re: kitfox /rotax 912 wiring diagram (variation on Z-16) (Sacha)
8. 07:31 PM - Re: kitfox /rotax 912 wiring diagram (variation on Z-16) (user9253)
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Gents
I am using toggle switches for non-lights (e.g. Fuel pump, Pitot heat, Aux
Battery, etc.) and both for aesthetical reasons and non-confusing reasons, I
am planning to use rocker illuminated switches for the Lights (Landing
Light, Taxi Light, Strobes, Beacon, NAV Lights, Cabin Light).
I am not finding a source for good rocker switches, like for example the
ones from Klixon or other good brand. Neither ACS or Stein Air seems to
carry those.
Can someone please point me to a source for good rocker illuminated
switches?
Regards
Carlos
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Carlos,
<< source for good rocker switches >>
Mouser Electronics (mouser.com) is happy to sell small quantities to the
amateur builder. They list 1,166 illuminated rocker switches in their
online catalog, 166 of which are SPST rated at 10 amps or more.
Tom
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Thank you Tom
But I suppose that Mouser does not sell engraved rocker switches, do they?
De: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] Em nome de The Kuffels
Enviada: 29 de novembro de 2013 18:23
Para: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
Assunto: Re: AeroElectric-List: Switches
Carlos,
<< source for good rocker switches >>
Mouser Electronics (mouser.com) is happy to sell small quantities to the
amateur builder. They list 1,166 illuminated rocker switches in their
online catalog, 166 of which are SPST rated at 10 amps or more.
Tom
<http://www.buildersbooks.com>
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| Subject: | Re: kitfox /rotax 912 wiring diagram (variation on |
Z-16)
> By replaced, do you mean I should add a fuse between the Dynamo and the Voltage
regulator?
No
> Im confused I thought the b-lead is wire that goes between the dynamo and the
voltage regulator. How can it be connected to the battery contactor?
The two yellow wires from the dynamo carry AC to the voltage rectifier / regulator.
The yellow wires connect to "G" terminals. I assume the "G" stands for
Generator. Notice the letter "B" on the regulator connector. I consider the
"B" lead to be the wire that connects the output of the regulator to the aircraft
electrical system. This wire needs to be protected against short circuits
at the battery end with a fuse or circuit breaker. The advantage of using a
fuse is that it can be located on the engine side of the firewall adjacent to
and connected to the load side of the master relay. Since the maximum output
of the Rotax dynamo is 20 amps, it is unlikely that a 30 amp fuse will nuisance
blow.
> the ALT breaker. . . . seems to limiting the current that the dynamo can supply
. .
The output of an alternator is limited by the load or by the capacity of the alternator,
whichever is less. Since the load will usually be more than 5 amps,
a 5 amp circuit breaker will trip and disable the charging system. The charging
system will never work at all if wired per the schematic.
Joe
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Carlos,
<< Mouser does not sell engraved rocker switches >>
Some have the on-off symbol engraved but labeling functions puts you
into a whole different custom order ballgame. I just use a P-touch to
produce black letters on clear tape.
Bob does not favor this approach but I like the combined magnetic
circuit breaker/switch made by Airpax/Sensata. The part number is
R11-51-[amperage]-G06EV-S. These are life rated for medical
applications and available from OnLineComponents.com for less the $12.
But they are not illuminated. See the thread Tyco Breakers in the
archive for a more detailed discussion of these devices.
Tom
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Your local trophy supplier should be able to engrave any rocker you supply
with whatever you wish engraved on it. They are normally able to make "lami
coid" nameplates and that equipment will engrave a plastic rocker. You can
fill the engraving with paint of your choosing and wipe the excess from the
surrounding area to give a nicely "filled" engraved wording for your switc
hes.
Bob McC
From: trigo@mail.telepac.pt
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Switches
Thank you Tom But I suppose that Mouser does not sell engraved rocker switc
hes=2C do they? De: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:o
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Enviada: 29 de novembro de 2013 18:23
Para: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: kitfox /rotax 912 wiring diagram (variation |
on Z-16)
> I=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2m confused=C3=A2=82=AC=C2 I thought
the b-lead is wire that goes between the dynamo and the voltage
regulator. How can it be connected to the battery contactor?
The two yellow wires from the dynamo carry AC to the voltage rectifier
/ regulator. The yellow wires connect to "G" terminals. I assume the
"G" stands for Generator. Notice the letter "B" on the regulator
connector. I consider the "B" lead to be the wire that connects the
output of the regulator to the aircraft electrical system. This wire
needs to be protected against short circuits at the battery end with a
fuse or circuit breaker. The advantage of using a fuse is that it can
be located on the engine side of the firewall adjacent to and connected
to the load side of the master relay. Since the maximum output of the
Rotax dynamo is 20 amps, it is unlikely that a 30 amp fuse will nuisance
blow.
Ah! I got it! Here is the revised diagram 1.24 (it needs to be cleaned
up but at least now I think it is correct).
> the ALT breaker. . . . seems to limiting the current that the dynamo
can supply . .
The output of an alternator is limited by the load or by the capacity
of the alternator, whichever is less. Since the load will usually be
more than 5 amps, a 5 amp circuit breaker will trip and disable the
charging system. The charging system will never work at all if wired
per the schematic.
Joe
Absolutely. The diagram made no sense at all. In fact, I think I must
have drawn the diagram wrong because the aircraft has flown some 40
hours without the ALT breaker ever tripping. Anyway, I think I've got
it now. Thank you sir!
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| Subject: | Re: kitfox /rotax 912 wiring diagram (variation on |
Z-16)
OK, you have the dynamo working now. I see no other major mistakes. I would not
have all of those buttons on the control stick because I know that I would
get them mixed up and push the wrong one. But that is a matter of personal preference.
In the lower right hand corner of the drawing is a 22,000 microfarad
capacitor that is connected between ground and the contactors. I do not think
that capacitor is needed. It does not hurt anything, but is one more thing
that could fail.
Joe
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