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1. 07:24 AM - Illuminated rocker switch (Carlos Trigo)
2. 07:55 AM - Re: Illuminated rocker switch (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
3. 08:08 AM - Re: Illuminated rocker switch (Bill Putney)
4. 08:12 AM - Re: Illuminated rocker switch (Carlos Trigo)
5. 08:36 AM - Re: Illuminated rocker switch (Bob McCallum)
6. 08:37 AM - Re: Illuminated rocker switch (Carlos Trigo)
7. 08:44 AM - Re: Illuminated rocker switch (racerjerry)
8. 09:00 AM - Re: Re: Illuminated rocker switch (Carlos Trigo)
9. 09:41 AM - Re: Illuminated rocker switch (racerjerry)
10. 09:48 AM - Re: Re: Illuminated rocker switch (Bob McCallum)
11. 10:09 AM - Re: Illuminated rocker switch (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
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| Subject: | Illuminated rocker switch |
I bought these Honeywell illuminated rocker switches
which are DPST switches, ref. # AML34 FBA4AC01, and look like this from
behind
The 4 inclinated lugs are obviously the source and load for each pole, but
I'm having trouble to find out how to connect the upper lugs, i.e, how does
the illumination lamp circuit works.
I suppose I'm having a brain freeze here.
Since they didn't come with any schematic drawing, and I couldn't find it
online, can somebody please tell me (or send a hand draw) how does the lamp
circuit works?
Thanks
Carlos
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| Subject: | Re: Illuminated rocker switch |
>
>The 4 inclinated lugs are obviously the source
>and load for each pole, but Im having trouble
>to find out how to connect the upper lugs, i.e,
>how does the illumination lamp circuit works.
>I suppose Im having a brain freeze here
>Since they didnt come with any schematic
>drawing, and I couldnt find it online, can
>somebody please tell me (or send a hand draw) how does the lamp circuit works?
See http://tinyurl.com/mxhhc4c
You'll find two AML documents there that
will probably cover your questions.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Illuminated rocker switch |
From the Digikey web site... - Bill
On 12/28/13, 7:22 AM, Carlos Trigo wrote:
> AML34 FBA4AC01
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| Subject: | Illuminated rocker switch |
Bob
Thank you for your quick answer.
I already had grabed those 2 documents over the internet, and in none of
them I was able to conclude how does the lamp circuit works, and how
shall I
wire these critters to get them illuminated=85
Could you draw a simple hand sketch?
Carlos
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Robert L.
Nuckolls, III
Sent: s=E1bado, 28 de Dezembro de 2013 15:55
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Illuminated rocker switch
--> < <mailto:nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
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>The 4 inclinated lugs are obviously the source and load for each pole,
>but I=92m having trouble to find out how to connect the upper lugs,
i.e,
>how does the illumination lamp circuit works.
>I suppose I=92m having a brain freeze here=85 Since they didn=92t come
with
>any schematic drawing, and I couldn=92t find it online, can somebody
>please tell me (or send a hand draw) how does the lamp circuit works?
See <http://tinyurl.com/mxhhc4c> http://tinyurl.com/mxhhc4c
You'll find two AML documents there that
will probably cover your questions.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Illuminated rocker switch |
Carlos;
The two parallel terminals are the two ends of the lamp. Simply apply the
correct voltage for the lamps you've ordered and "bingo", light.
If you've ordered 12VDC lamps, one terminal should be grounded (-12VDC), the
other +12VDC
Bob McC
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From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos
Trigo
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 10:22 AM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Illuminated rocker switch
I bought these Honeywell illuminated rocker switches
which are DPST switches, ref. # AML34 FBA4AC01, and look like this from
behind
The 4 inclinated lugs are obviously the source and load for each pole, but
I'm having trouble to find out how to connect the upper lugs, i.e, how does
the illumination lamp circuit works.
I suppose I'm having a brain freeze here.
Since they didn't come with any schematic drawing, and I couldn't find it
online, can somebody please tell me (or send a hand draw) how does the lamp
circuit works?
Thanks
Carlos
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| Subject: | Illuminated rocker switch |
Thanks Bill
But those are the same documents that Bob has pointed out, the first is
only
a drawing with physical dimensions of the switches, and from the other
one I
am not able to understand how the lamp circuit works..
Carlos
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Putney
Sent: s=E1bado, 28 de Dezembro de 2013 16:07
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Illuminated rocker switch
>From the Digikey web site... - Bill
On 12/28/13, 7:22 AM, Carlos Trigo wrote:
AML34 FBA4AC01
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| Subject: | Re: Illuminated rocker switch |
Hi Carlos,
It would be helpful if you would provide any markings shown on the switch housing
/ packaging.
At the bottom of the download document aml_30.pdf, on page 4, it shows connections
for the internal light. On many switches, the lamp circuit is independent
of the switch circuit. I am guessing that you have an isolated lamp circuit
and that the two straight terminals are for the internal light.
Hope that this helps. Have a great new year.
Jerry King
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| Subject: | Re: Illuminated rocker switch |
Jerry
In that case, the switch light is not commanded by the switch itself, isn't
it?
So, if I want the lamp to illuminate when I turn On the switch, I'll have to
wire that externally. Am I correct?
Carlos
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
racerjerry
Sent: sbado, 28 de Dezembro de 2013 16:44
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Illuminated rocker switch
--> <gki@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Hi Carlos,
It would be helpful if you would provide any markings shown on the switch
housing / packaging.
At the bottom of the download document aml_30.pdf, on page 4, it shows
connections for the internal light. On many switches, the lamp circuit is
independent of the switch circuit. I am guessing that you have an isolated
lamp circuit and that the two straight terminals are for the internal light.
Hope that this helps. Have a great new year.
Jerry King
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Jerry King
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| Subject: | Re: Illuminated rocker switch |
YES and YES BUT
Oops again
I re-read your post & p 4 and see your switch AML34 FBA4AC01 is a:
AML 34 F > Rectangular 1 lamp circuit
B > Black
A > No lamp installed
4 > .187 x .020 (Solder of Quick-Connect) terminal
AC > 2-Pole
01 > maintained ON and OFF
I find the second A intriguing, as it hints that NO incandescent lamp was installed??
Honeywell MAY be using the same body on multiple switches and your switch
MAY have lighting terminals, but no light installed. Try a resistance measurement
between the two straight terminals. An incandescent light should give
a relatively low resistance reading.
Jerry King
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| Subject: | Re: Illuminated rocker switch |
Carlos;
Correct
Bob McC
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Trigo
> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 11:59 AM
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Re: Illuminated rocker switch
>
<trigo@mail.telepac.pt>
>
> Jerry
>
> In that case, the switch light is not commanded by the switch itself,
isn't
> it?
> So, if I want the lamp to illuminate when I turn On the switch, I'll have
to
> wire that externally. Am I correct?
>
> Carlos
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> racerjerry
> Sent: sbado, 28 de Dezembro de 2013 16:44
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Illuminated rocker switch
>
> --> <gki@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
>
> Hi Carlos,
> It would be helpful if you would provide any markings shown on the switch
> housing / packaging.
>
> At the bottom of the download document aml_30.pdf, on page 4, it shows
> connections for the internal light. On many switches, the lamp circuit is
> independent of the switch circuit. I am guessing that you have an
isolated
> lamp circuit and that the two straight terminals are for the internal
light.
>
> Hope that this helps. Have a great new year.
>
> Jerry King
>
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> Jerry King
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| Subject: | Illuminated rocker switch |
At 10:11 AM 12/28/2013, you wrote:
>Bob
>Thank you for your quick answer.
>
>I already had grabed those 2 documents over the
>internet, and in none of them I was able to
>conclude how does the lamp circuit works, and
>how shall I wire these critters to get them illuminated=85
>
>Could you draw a simple hand sketch?
>
According to the number you cited, the switches you have
are black, rectangular devices with one lamp circuit, no
lamp installed, with .187 fast-on terminals and two Form A
contacts (two poles).
Emacs!
I presume you have #73 or #85 lamps to install
Emacs!
The schematic for these switches
Emacs!
Shows the two poles on terminals 11/12 and 21/22 with
the lamp isolated on the other two terminals. The elsewhere
in the literature I found this rear view of the termina
arrangement
Emacs!
If you look at the back of your switches, you'll probably
find numbers molded into the housings.
You probably only need one of the two poles to switch
a load so you can use either the 11/12 or 21/22 path
for this task. I presume that you're going to power all
the lights from a dimmer so one of the two lamp terminals
would be tied to ground . . . the other to your dimmer
output. For side-by-side switches, you can daisy-chain
jumpers across the row of switches to parallel all the
lamps and take single conductors to ground and dimmer.
. . . sorta like this.
Emacs!
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Illuminated rocker switch |
Carlos;
Referring to the document AML30.pdf and analyzing the part number you have
provided shows that you bought the switch without a lamp installed indicated
by the "A" in the centre of the part number. You did buy the appropriate
lamp to install in this switch according to the voltage you require didn't
you? If you wished it to come with a 12V lamp already installed the central
"A" should have been a "C"
AML34 ORDER GUIDE
AML34 accepts one incandescent lamp which can be furnished installed or
ordered separately.
AML34 F B A 4 AC 01 has no lamp installed AML34 F B C 4 AC 01 has a 12V lamp
installed. For 28 volt it would be an "E"
Bob McC
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| Subject: | Re: Illuminated rocker switch |
In AML 24, 34 and 26 (you probably have AML24) any light circuits are
independent of the switch circuits. Looking at the spec sheet, they
only show the diagram for the various switched poles. You just hook up
the lights directly to power and ground and possibly a dimmer. I don't
think I ever saw a diagram showing the light circuit.
The AML36 series has versions where the lamp circuit is integral to
switch circuit. I'm unfamiliar with those.
I used a number AML 24 and 34 switches, all with independent lamp
circuits. I had no desire to have the light do anything other than
light up the switch label for night ops.
My switches were spec'd for incandescent lamps, however I replaced them
with LED lamps with integral resistors sourced from one of the panel
shops. They are also dimmed with units from Perihelion.
If you need indicator lamps, the AML41 indicators are a nice complement.
The dimming is critical. A bank of these switches and/or indicators
will blind you at night. At the same time, they are very nice at night
when properly dimmed. Re the indicators, I did not dim the 'warning'
and 'fault' indicators, i.e. Oil Press, Low Voltage, Master Warn, Door
Open, because they should be seen no matter how the dimmer is set. I
did dim the 'status' indicators, i.e. Buss Crossfeed and Boost Pump,
because I didn't want to be blinded when those indicators are on for
extended periods.
Here is a page showing some switch wiring - note that none of the switch
terminals are connected, only the light circuits are wired.
http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&category=5253&log=122434&row=2
Here a page showing the switches and indicator lights on the panel
(while under construction)
http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&category=5253&log=91400&row=6
On 12/28/2013 11:59 AM, Carlos Trigo wrote:
>
> Jerry
>
> In that case, the switch light is not commanded by the switch itself, isn't
> it?
> So, if I want the lamp to illuminate when I turn On the switch, I'll have to
> wire that externally. Am I correct?
>
> Carlos
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> racerjerry
> Sent: sbado, 28 de Dezembro de 2013 16:44
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Illuminated rocker switch
>
> --> <gki@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
>
> Hi Carlos,
> It would be helpful if you would provide any markings shown on the switch
> housing / packaging.
>
> At the bottom of the download document aml_30.pdf, on page 4, it shows
> connections for the internal light. On many switches, the lamp circuit is
> independent of the switch circuit. I am guessing that you have an isolated
> lamp circuit and that the two straight terminals are for the internal light.
>
> Hope that this helps. Have a great new year.
>
> Jerry King
>
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| Subject: | Source for Relay =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=93?= DPDT (On) Off |
(On) ?
Hey gang,
Can anyone help me find a source for this type relay DPDT (On) Off (On), 28 VDC,
Max 15 Amps? Online I can find plenty of DPDT relays but not with the (On)
Off (On) throw
Im trying to make the VPXs flap controls circuit/logic work with the Lancair Legacys
flap circuitry that provides motor braking at the limits by grounding both
sides of the motor.
Thanks,
Valin Thorn
Lancair Legacy Project
Boulder, Colorado
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| Subject: | Re: Source for Relay =?iso-8859-1?Q?=93?= DPDT (On) |
Off (On) ?
Unlikely you'll find what you describe.
Have you considered and dismissed the use of two DPDT relays?
At 12:58 12/28/2013, you wrote:
>
>Hey gang,
>
>Can anyone help me find a source for this type
>relay =93 DPDT (On) Off (On), 28 VDC, Max 15
>Amps? Online I can find plenty of DPDT relays
>but not with the (On) Off (On) throw
>
>I=99m trying to make the VPX=99s flap controls
>circuit/logic work with the Lancair Legacy=99s
>flap circuitry that provides motor braking at
>the limits by grounding both sides of the motor.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Valin Thorn
>Lancair Legacy Project
>Boulder, Colorado
>
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>Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | RE:_AeroElectric-List:_Source_fo?= =?UTF-8?Q?r_Relay_=C3=A2=82=AC=9C_DPDT_=28On=29_Off_=28On=29_=3F? |
Valin;
The functionality you're describing would normally incorporate two DPDT relays
and would unlikely be found in a single relay package.
Bob McC
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> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Valin
> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 3:58 PM
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Source for Relay DPDT (On) Off (On) ?
>
>
> Hey gang,
>
> Can anyone help me find a source for this type relay DPDT (On) Off (On), 28
VDC,
> Max 15 Amps? Online I can find plenty of DPDT relays but not with the (On) Off
(On)
> throw
>
> Im trying to make the VPXs flap controls circuit/logic work with the Lancair
> Legacys flap circuitry that provides motor braking at the limits by grounding
both
> sides of the motor.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Valin Thorn
> Lancair Legacy Project
> Boulder, Colorado
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>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=416291#416291
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| Subject: | =?windows-1252?Q?Re=3A_AeroElectric=2DList=3A_Source_for_Relay_=93_DPD?= |
=?windows-1252?Q?T_=28On=29_Off_=28On=29_=3F?
http://www.eaton.com/ecm/groups/public/@pub/@eaton/@aero/documents/content/
pct_228168.pdf
Joe
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Valin <thorn@starflight.aero> wrote:
>
> Hey gang,
>
> Can anyone help me find a source for this type relay ' DPDT (On) Off (O
n),
> 28 VDC, Max 15 Amps? Online I can find plenty of DPDT relays but not wit
h
> the (On) Off (On) throw=85
>
> I=92m trying to make the VPX=92s flap controls circuit/logic work with th
e
> Lancair Legacy=92s flap circuitry that provides motor braking at the limi
ts
> by grounding both sides of the motor.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Valin Thorn
> Lancair Legacy Project
> Boulder, Colorado
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=416291#416291
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| Subject: | Re: Illuminated rocker switch |
Thanks to all who responded. As usual you've been very helpful.
Now that I know the lamp circuit is independent from the 2 poles, I will hav
e to design my wiring for the illumination to work as I had planned.
Back to the bench
Carlos
Enviado do meu iPhone
No dia 28/12/2013, =C3-s 18:05, "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@ae
roelectric.com> escreveu:
> At 10:11 AM 12/28/2013, you wrote:
>> Bob
>> Thank you for your quick answer.
>>
>> I already had grabed those 2 documents over the internet, and in none of t
hem I was able to conclude how does the lamp circuit works, and how shall I w
ire these critters to get them illuminated
>>
>> Could you draw a simple hand sketch?
>
> According to the number you cited, the switches you have
> are black, rectangular devices with one lamp circuit, no
> lamp installed, with .187 fast-on terminals and two Form A
> contacts (two poles).
> <6c7bf9.jpg>
>
>
> I presume you have #73 or #85 lamps to install
>
>
> <6c7c56.jpg>
>
> The schematic for these switches
>
> <6c7cb4.jpg>
>
> Shows the two poles on terminals 11/12 and 21/22 with
> the lamp isolated on the other two terminals. The elsewhere
> in the literature I found this rear view of the termina
> arrangement
>
> <6c7ce3.jpg>
>
> If you look at the back of your switches, you'll probably
> find numbers molded into the housings.
>
> You probably only need one of the two poles to switch
> a load so you can use either the 11/12 or 21/22 path
> for this task. I presume that you're going to power all
> the lights from a dimmer so one of the two lamp terminals
> would be tied to ground . . . the other to your dimmer
> output. For side-by-side switches, you can daisy-chain
> jumpers across the row of switches to parallel all the
> lamps and take single conductors to ground and dimmer.
>
> . . . sorta like this.
>
> <6c7d12.jpg>
>
>
>
>
>
> Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Source for Relay =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=93?= DPDT (On) |
Off (On) ?
That functionality can be accomplished with two, spdt relays as shown here:
http://tinyurl.com/lw8uh8x
Sealed, plastic, automotive relays are very suited to this task.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Source for Relay =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=93?= DPDT (On) |
Off (On) ?
Here's more detail in what I'm trying to accomplish in trying to use the VPX and
its flap control features with the motor breaking circuitry of the Lancair Legacy
flap control mechanism.
The good things the VPX does for flap control is not allow deployment above the
maximum flap extended speed, incremental deployment/retraction with flap momentary
switch activation, and read/display its position.
The VPX controls the flap motor by changing the polarity of the outputs driving
the flap motor.
The Legacy's flap control circuitry, with motor braking (grounding both sides)
when not driving the motor or at its deploy and retraction limits, drives the
motor in different direction at the flap switch (DPDT (Retract) Off (Deploy))
with the positive electrical connection to both the retract and deploy circuits.
See attachment. This is much the way Bob N. showed how to do it where he was
switching the ground.
So it seems that with the VPS sending out motor commands just directly changing
the polarity that it could be hooked up to a Relay replacing the manual flap
switch function DPDT (On) Off (On). But as some have pointed out, there's apparently
no such animal.
I'm not sure how to take the changing flap control polarity coming out of the VPX
and set up two relays to achieve the same result in the Lancair wiring of the
DPDT flap control switch. I'm at novice at this but will think about it some
more tomorrow. If anyone can suggest a specific solution to this interesting
challenge Id sure appreciate it.
Thanks,
Valin
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=416309#416309
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http://forums.matronics.com//files/lancair_flap_drive_wiring_drawing_111.jpg
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| Subject: | Problem Creating AeroElectric Forum Postings |
When I type in a post, if it gets too long, the auto preview runs over the typing
window and makes it impossible to edit. See screen shot example attachment.
I'm using Internet Explorer 10. Does anyone know how to stop this?
Thanks,
Valin
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