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Mon 02/24/14


Total Messages Posted: 7



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     1. 06:50 AM - Buy Apple Iphone 5S 32GB $600/Apple iPad 5 Air 4G 32GB$550 (wabbss)
     2. 07:15 AM - Re: Shower of Sparks question (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     3. 07:41 AM - Wiring for Aircraft With Dual Electronic Ignition (Justin Jones)
     4. 04:41 PM - Re: Wiring for Aircraft With Dual Electronic Ignition (Richard Girard)
     5. 05:01 PM - Re: Wiring for Aircraft With Dual Electronic Ignition (Harley)
     6. 06:55 PM - Linear Actuator Position (James Baldwin)
     7. 09:39 PM - Re: Wiring for Aircraft With Dual Electronic Ignition (Justin Jones)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:50:39 AM PST US
    Subject: Buy Apple Iphone 5S 32GB $600/Apple iPad 5 Air 4G 32GB$550
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    Time: 07:15:57 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Shower of Sparks question
    At 02:47 AM 2/23/2014, you wrote: Hi Bob I have recently bought an FK131, which is a retro build of the Bcker Jungmann a, a wonderful little plane with a Walter Micron 3 motor (also a rebuild of the original Hirth motor), the Czech motor company who builds it chose the "Buzzer" as a start assistance and I found the wonderful little article you wrote which helped me understand how the system works a little better. I'm pleased that you found it useful . . . I have 2 questions, how is switch for the "Shower of Sparks" or Buzzer labeled in the cockpit? No differently than for a system without shower of sparks. The existence of shower of sparks is transparent to the pilot . . . except that the engine starts better . . . can the system be used in an emergency if one of the magnetos were to fail?? or would the failed magneto not give it the impulse to make a difference? Usually, the electro-mechanical, shower of sparks is applied to only one of the two magnetos . . . and the accessorized mag will be fitted with a second set of delayed-timing points. If that mag fails, you're stuck. I think there are modern incarnations of the shower-of-sparks that can be adapted to any magneto with our without impulse coupling. The spark augmentation energy is piped into the magneto p-lead based on some electronic determination of timing. If your 'buzzer' is a solid state device and the supported magneto has only one set of points, then the device can be switched between the two magnetos with impunity. If your spark is mechanically timed (second set of points) the SOS system CAN be very useful for propping the engine by hand. But you need appropriate switching to make sure the starter is not engaged while your 'organic starter' has their hands on the prop. After priming the engine and pulling the prop around to the start of a compression stroke, you hold the shower of sparks system in the 'cranking' mode while the prop is pulled sedately through the opening of the retarded timing points. The engine will start right up. This probably won't work with electronically retarded systems that expect to see cranking on the order of 100-200 rpm. So the short answer is that the system will work for either magneto only if it's electronically retarded -OR- both mags are fitted with retard points. Bob . . .


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    Time: 07:41:27 AM PST US
    From: Justin Jones <jmjones2000@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Wiring for Aircraft With Dual Electronic Ignition
    I am fairly unexperienced and new at the experimental building hobby. I am building a Bushcaddy L164 and I am putting dual electronic ignition on it. I absolutely need this to work at all times since I am flying over non-forgiving terrain in Alaska. The new systems are very reliable and I am confident that with a redundant system (EIGN-4-2R through the company fly EFII ) I will be fine as long as I can supply power to the system. I have drawn up a schematic on how I plan to wire the system and wanted some input from some experts out there to see if I have done anything incorrectly. I have attached the diagram. I have also considered using solid state relays in the system. I would use them for all of the relays except the starter relay. Any thoughts on this? I have found solid state relays that are rated for all of my applications to include the Battery Master (rated at 300A continuous and 500A for 1 sec). Thank you for your time and consideration. Justin


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    Time: 04:41:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Wiring for Aircraft With Dual Electronic Ignition
    From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
    Justin, Do you have your schematic in a CAD or PDF file? Even with my bifocals some of it is difficult to make out from the small version in your email. Thanks, Rick Girard do not archive On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Justin Jones <jmjones2000@mindspring.com>wrote: > I am fairly unexperienced and new at the experimental building hobby. I > am building a Bushcaddy L164 and I am putting dual electronic ignition on > it. I absolutely need this to work at all times since I am flying over > non-forgiving terrain in Alaska. The new systems are very reliable and I > am confident that with a redundant system (EIGN-4-2R through the company > fly EFII ) I will be fine as long as I can supply power to the system. I > have drawn up a schematic on how I plan to wire the system and wanted some > input from some experts out there to see if I have done anything > incorrectly. I have attached the diagram. I have also considered using > solid state relays in the system. I would use them for all of the relays > except the starter relay. Any thoughts on this? I have found solid state > relays that are rated for all of my applications to include the Battery > Master (rated at 300A continuous and 500A for 1 sec). > > Thank you for your time and consideration. > > Justin > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx


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    Time: 05:01:03 PM PST US
    From: Harley <harley@AgelessWings.com>
    Subject: Re: Wiring for Aircraft With Dual Electronic Ignition


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    Time: 06:55:51 PM PST US
    Subject: Linear Actuator Position
    From: James Baldwin <1james.baldwin@gmail.com>
    Hey Electronic Guys -- Does anybody have a schematic for a simple circuit to show the position of the wiper on a 10k potentiometer? The leads are at each end of the resistor and one additional one for the wiper. I was thinking of a few LEDs that would light up depending on position of the wiper. Or maybe something that would light up when the actuator was centered. I also have a GRT EFIS if that could be used instead if anyone knows how. Thank you for the help.


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    Time: 09:39:09 PM PST US
    From: Justin Jones <jmjones2000@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Wiring for Aircraft With Dual Electronic Ignition
    Richard, Thank you for looking at it for me. I do not have it in CAD, but I do have it in PDF. I have attached it. Hope this fixes the small writing. Justin On Feb 24, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote: > Justin, Do you have your schematic in a CAD or PDF file? Even with my bifocals some of it is difficult to make out from the small version in your email. > > Thanks, > Rick Girard > do not archive > > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Justin Jones <jmjones2000@mindspring.com> wrote: > I am fairly unexperienced and new at the experimental building hobby. I am building a Bushcaddy L164 and I am putting dual electronic ignition on it. I absolutely need this to work at all times since I am flying over non-forgiving terrain in Alaska. The new systems are very reliable and I am confident that with a redundant system (EIGN-4-2R through the company fly EFII ) I will be fine as long as I can supply power to the system. I have drawn up a schematic on how I plan to wire the system and wanted some input from some experts out there to see if I have done anything incorrectly. I have attached the diagram. I have also considered using solid state relays in the system. I would use them for all of the relays except the starter relay. Any thoughts on this? I have found solid state relays that are rated for all of my applications to include the Battery Master (rated at 300A continuous and 500A for 1 sec). > > Thank you for your time and consideration. > > Justin > > <Bushcaddy L164 Wiring Diagram.jpg> > > > > -- > Zulu Delta > Mk IIIC > Thanks, Homer GBYM > > It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. > - Groucho Marx >




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