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1. 06:50 AM - Buy Apple Iphone 5S 32GB $600/Apple iPad 5 Air 4G 32GB$550 (wabbss)
2. 07:15 AM - Re: Shower of Sparks question (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
3. 07:41 AM - Wiring for Aircraft With Dual Electronic Ignition (Justin Jones)
4. 04:41 PM - Re: Wiring for Aircraft With Dual Electronic Ignition (Richard Girard)
5. 05:01 PM - Re: Wiring for Aircraft With Dual Electronic Ignition (Harley)
6. 06:55 PM - Linear Actuator Position (James Baldwin)
7. 09:39 PM - Re: Wiring for Aircraft With Dual Electronic Ignition (Justin Jones)
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Subject: | Buy Apple Iphone 5S 32GB $600/Apple iPad 5 Air 4G 32GB$550 |
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Subject: | Re: Shower of Sparks question |
At 02:47 AM 2/23/2014, you wrote:
Hi Bob
I have recently bought an FK131, which is a retro
build of the Bcker Jungmann a, a wonderful
little plane with a Walter Micron 3 motor (also a
rebuild of the original Hirth motor), the Czech
motor company who builds it chose the "Buzzer" as
a start assistance and I found the wonderful
little article you wrote which helped me
understand how the system works a little better.
I'm pleased that you found it useful . . .
I have 2 questions, how is switch for the "Shower
of Sparks" or Buzzer labeled in the cockpit?
No differently than for a system without shower of sparks.
The existence of shower of sparks is transparent to the
pilot . . . except that the engine starts better . . .
can the system be used in an emergency if one of
the magnetos were to fail?? or would the failed
magneto not give it the impulse to make a difference?
Usually, the electro-mechanical, shower of sparks
is applied to only one of the two magnetos . . . and
the accessorized mag will be fitted with a second
set of delayed-timing points. If that mag fails,
you're stuck. I think there are modern incarnations
of the shower-of-sparks that can be adapted to any
magneto with our without impulse coupling. The
spark augmentation energy is piped into the magneto
p-lead based on some electronic determination of
timing.
If your 'buzzer' is a solid state device and
the supported magneto has only one set of points,
then the device can be switched between the two
magnetos with impunity.
If your spark is mechanically timed (second set of
points) the SOS system CAN be very useful for propping the
engine by hand. But you need appropriate switching
to make sure the starter is not engaged while your
'organic starter' has their hands on the prop.
After priming the engine and pulling the prop around
to the start of a compression stroke, you hold
the shower of sparks system in the 'cranking'
mode while the prop is pulled sedately through
the opening of the retarded timing points. The
engine will start right up.
This probably won't work with electronically
retarded systems that expect to see cranking
on the order of 100-200 rpm.
So the short answer is that the system will
work for either magneto only if it's electronically
retarded -OR- both mags are fitted with retard
points.
Bob . . .
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Subject: | Wiring for Aircraft With Dual Electronic Ignition |
I am fairly unexperienced and new at the experimental building hobby. I
am building a Bushcaddy L164 and I am putting dual electronic ignition
on it. I absolutely need this to work at all times since I am flying
over non-forgiving terrain in Alaska. The new systems are very reliable
and I am confident that with a redundant system (EIGN-4-2R through the
company fly EFII ) I will be fine as long as I can supply power to the
system. I have drawn up a schematic on how I plan to wire the system
and wanted some input from some experts out there to see if I have done
anything incorrectly. I have attached the diagram. I have also
considered using solid state relays in the system. I would use them for
all of the relays except the starter relay. Any thoughts on this? I
have found solid state relays that are rated for all of my applications
to include the Battery Master (rated at 300A continuous and 500A for 1
sec).
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Justin
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Subject: | Re: Wiring for Aircraft With Dual Electronic Ignition |
Justin, Do you have your schematic in a CAD or PDF file? Even with my
bifocals some of it is difficult to make out from the small version in your
email.
Thanks,
Rick Girard
do not archive
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Justin Jones <jmjones2000@mindspring.com>wrote:
> I am fairly unexperienced and new at the experimental building hobby. I
> am building a Bushcaddy L164 and I am putting dual electronic ignition on
> it. I absolutely need this to work at all times since I am flying over
> non-forgiving terrain in Alaska. The new systems are very reliable and I
> am confident that with a redundant system (EIGN-4-2R through the company
> fly EFII ) I will be fine as long as I can supply power to the system. I
> have drawn up a schematic on how I plan to wire the system and wanted some
> input from some experts out there to see if I have done anything
> incorrectly. I have attached the diagram. I have also considered using
> solid state relays in the system. I would use them for all of the relays
> except the starter relay. Any thoughts on this? I have found solid state
> relays that are rated for all of my applications to include the Battery
> Master (rated at 300A continuous and 500A for 1 sec).
>
> Thank you for your time and consideration.
>
> Justin
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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Subject: | Re: Wiring for Aircraft With Dual Electronic Ignition |
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Subject: | Linear Actuator Position |
Hey Electronic Guys --
Does anybody have a schematic for a simple circuit to show the position of
the wiper on a 10k potentiometer? The leads are at each end of the
resistor and one additional one for the wiper. I was thinking of a few
LEDs that would light up depending on position of the wiper. Or maybe
something that would light up when the actuator was centered. I also have
a GRT EFIS if that could be used instead if anyone knows how. Thank you
for the help.
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Subject: | Re: Wiring for Aircraft With Dual Electronic Ignition |
Richard,
Thank you for looking at it for me. I do not have it in CAD, but I do
have it in PDF. I have attached it. Hope this fixes the small writing.
Justin
On Feb 24, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
> Justin, Do you have your schematic in a CAD or PDF file? Even with my
bifocals some of it is difficult to make out from the small version in
your email.
>
> Thanks,
> Rick Girard
> do not archive
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Justin Jones
<jmjones2000@mindspring.com> wrote:
> I am fairly unexperienced and new at the experimental building hobby.
I am building a Bushcaddy L164 and I am putting dual electronic ignition
on it. I absolutely need this to work at all times since I am flying
over non-forgiving terrain in Alaska. The new systems are very reliable
and I am confident that with a redundant system (EIGN-4-2R through the
company fly EFII ) I will be fine as long as I can supply power to the
system. I have drawn up a schematic on how I plan to wire the system
and wanted some input from some experts out there to see if I have done
anything incorrectly. I have attached the diagram. I have also
considered using solid state relays in the system. I would use them for
all of the relays except the starter relay. Any thoughts on this? I
have found solid state relays that are rated for all of my applications
to include the Battery Master (rated at 300A continuous and 500A for 1
sec).
>
> Thank you for your time and consideration.
>
> Justin
>
> <Bushcaddy L164 Wiring Diagram.jpg>
>
>
>
> --
> Zulu Delta
> Mk IIIC
> Thanks, Homer GBYM
>
> It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be
unhappy.
> - Groucho Marx
>
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