---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 03/13/14: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:59 AM - Re: Re: Timer circuit for led array (Richard Girard) 2. 10:22 AM - Re: Re: Timer circuit for led array (Roger & Jean) 3. 02:47 PM - spliting 2 wires at a dsub connector (Craig Reding) 4. 05:00 PM - Re: Re: Timer circuit for led array (David Duperron) 5. 07:22 PM - Re: Re: Timer circuit for led array (Bob McCallum) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:59:59 AM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Timer circuit for led array From: Richard Girard I haven't done a survey of the entire automotive world, but it seems as if every car today has convenience lighting that turns on the interior lights when the doors are unlocked and again when the car is turned off. On my 2006 Toyota truck, they turn off when the doors are locked, either with the switch on the door or with the remote. Perhaps a You Pick car wrecker would be a good place to grab a circuit whole for a relative cheap price. Rick Girard do not archive On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:55 PM, Jeff Luckey wrote: > Dave, > > In case you did not see DL Josepheson's earlier post, here is the link he > provided: > > > http://www.delcity.net/store/Time-Delay-Relay/p_804415.h_804416.t_1.r_IF1003?gclid=COb_ieijjb0CFc1afgodbl0AUA > > > I don't know anything more about the relay than what's shown at that link, > but I imagine using the relay is pretty straightforward. If you have > specific questions, I and other listers will be happy to try and answer > them. > > -Jeff > > ------------------------------ > *From:* David Duperron > *To:* aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 12, 2014 6:21 PM > *Subject:* Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Timer circuit for led array > > Thanks for the reply Jeff. Do you have any more info on the automotive > light delay relay? Dave Duperron (davedup10@gmail.com. > > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Jeff Luckey wrote: > > True but ... > > that overlooks the convenience of always-available cabin lighting without > having the Master on. > > The post earlier today that referenced an existing automotive delay relay > looks like a great solution - cheap, designed for the purpose, plug-n-play, > no re-inventing the wheel > > - what don't we like about that > > -Jeff > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Eric M. Jones > *To:* aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:42 AM > *Subject:* AeroElectric-List: Re: Timer circuit for led array > > emjones@charter.net> > > > > Timer circuit for led array Reply with quote > > I'm looking for a timer to shut off my cabin overhead utility light > after about 10 minutes of operation. It's fed directly from the main > battery buss and I would like to know that if I forgot to turn it off the > timer would do it for me before draining the battery. Any ideas? David > Duperron > > > I learned to fly in Cessnas, and as I recall leaving the beacon on was a > certain way to avoid walking away from the airplane with something still on. > Perhaps the solution to your problem is just to have the cabin light on > the same bus as the beacon. > > Adding an extra gizmo is not the best way to go. > > -------- > Eric M. Jones > www.PerihelionDesign.com > 113 Brentwood Drive > Southbridge, MA 01550 > (508) 764-2072 > emjones(at)charter.net > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.comnbsp; > > > * > > ist" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > * > > > * > > > * > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:22:05 AM PST US From: "Roger & Jean" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Timer circuit for led array I haven't done a survey of the entire automotive world, but it seems as if every car today has convenience lighting that turns on the interior lights when the doors are unlocked and again when the car is turned off. On my 2006 Toyota truck, they turn off when the doors are locked, either with the switch on the door or with the remote. Perhaps a You Pick car wrecker would be a good place to grab a circuit whole for a relative cheap price. I believe that you will find that most of the delays etc are controlled through the car's computer and not with individual delay circuits. I could be wrong, have been on occasion. Roger ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:47:44 PM PST US From: Craig Reding Subject: AeroElectric-List: spliting 2 wires at a dsub connector In the sprit of the comic books that Bob has put together which have proven so valuable I need to split a shielded wire into 2 pins on on a DSUB. I am sure that what I did would be an acceptable approach but is there a better way? this is a 2 conductor shielded wire. I have already added a pigtail using a solder sleeve thanks for the help I striped off a 1/4 inch strip of insulation about 1 1/2 inches back from the pin I following Bob=92s comic book on splicing wires i teased out a couple of strands of the wire to be joined Wrapped and soldered added shrink wrap and crimped on the pin ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:00:27 PM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Timer circuit for led array From: David Duperron I'm thinking more like the circuit that lets the head lights remain on till you get the groceries in. And did I tell you this has to be small and weigh next to nothing !!! Thanks Rick, Dave On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Richard Girard wrote: > I haven't done a survey of the entire automotive world, but it seems as if > every car today has convenience lighting that turns on the interior lights > when the doors are unlocked and again when the car is turned off. On my > 2006 Toyota truck, they turn off when the doors are locked, either with the > switch on the door or with the remote. > Perhaps a You Pick car wrecker would be a good place to grab a circuit > whole for a relative cheap price. > > Rick Girard > do not archive > > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:55 PM, Jeff Luckey wrote: > >> Dave, >> >> In case you did not see DL Josepheson's earlier post, here is the link he >> provided: >> >> >> http://www.delcity.net/store/Time-Delay-Relay/p_804415.h_804416.t_1.r_IF1003?gclid=COb_ieijjb0CFc1afgodbl0AUA >> >> >> I don't know anything more about the relay than what's shown at that >> link, but I imagine using the relay is pretty straightforward. If you have >> specific questions, I and other listers will be happy to try and answer >> them. >> >> -Jeff >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* David Duperron >> *To:* aeroelectric-list@matronics.com >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 12, 2014 6:21 PM >> *Subject:* Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Timer circuit for led array >> >> Thanks for the reply Jeff. Do you have any more info on the automotive >> light delay relay? Dave Duperron (davedup10@gmail.com. >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Jeff Luckey wrote: >> >> True but ... >> >> that overlooks the convenience of always-available cabin lighting without >> having the Master on. >> >> The post earlier today that referenced an existing automotive delay relay >> looks like a great solution - cheap, designed for the purpose, plug-n-play, >> no re-inventing the wheel >> >> - what don't we like about that >> >> -Jeff >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Eric M. Jones >> *To:* aeroelectric-list@matronics.com >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:42 AM >> *Subject:* AeroElectric-List: Re: Timer circuit for led array >> >> emjones@charter.net> >> >> >> > Timer circuit for led array Reply with quote >> > I'm looking for a timer to shut off my cabin overhead utility light >> after about 10 minutes of operation. It's fed directly from the main >> battery buss and I would like to know that if I forgot to turn it off the >> timer would do it for me before draining the battery. Any ideas? David >> Duperron >> >> >> I learned to fly in Cessnas, and as I recall leaving the beacon on was a >> certain way to avoid walking away from the airplane with something still on. >> Perhaps the solution to your problem is just to have the cabin light on >> the same bus as the beacon. >> >> Adding an extra gizmo is not the best way to go. >> >> -------- >> Eric M. Jones >> www.PerihelionDesign.com >> 113 Brentwood Drive >> Southbridge, MA 01550 >> (508) 764-2072 >> emjones(at)charter.net >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.comnbsp; >> >> >> >> >> >> * >> >> ist" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> * >> >> >> >> >> * >> >> ist" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> * >> >> > > > -- > Zulu Delta > Mk IIIC > Thanks, Homer GBYM > > It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. > - Groucho Marx > > * > > > * > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:22:02 PM PST US From: Bob McCallum Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Re: Timer circuit for led array Which is exactly the function of the automotive relay cited. It weighs pretty close to nothing, (as close as you're likely to get anyway) is small, about a 1" cube, is adjustable for delay time, is relatively inexpensive (only $13.00 direct from the manufacturer in single quantities) and it will switch up to 30 amps. Pretty good off the shelf solution to the problem I'd say. Bob McC _____ From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Duperron Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 7:59 PM Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Timer circuit for led array I'm thinking more like the circuit that lets the head lights remain on till you get the groceries in. And did I tell you this has to be small and weigh next to nothing !!! Thanks Rick, Dave On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Richard Girard wrote: I haven't done a survey of the entire automotive world, but it seems as if every car today has convenience lighting that turns on the interior lights when the doors are unlocked and again when the car is turned off. On my 2006 Toyota truck, they turn off when the doors are locked, either with the switch on the door or with the remote. Perhaps a You Pick car wrecker would be a good place to grab a circuit whole for a relative cheap price. Rick Girard do not archive On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:55 PM, Jeff Luckey wrote: Dave, In case you did not see DL Josepheson's earlier post, here is the link he provided: http://www.delcity.net/store/Time-Delay-Relay/p_804415.h_804416.t_1.r_IF1003 ?gclid=COb_ieijjb0CFc1afgodbl0AUA I don't know anything more about the relay than what's shown at that link, but I imagine using the relay is pretty straightforward. If you have specific questions, I and other listers will be happy to try and answer them. -Jeff _____ From: David Duperron Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 6:21 PM Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Timer circuit for led array Thanks for the reply Jeff. Do you have any more info on the automotive light delay relay? Dave Duperron (davedup10@gmail.com. On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Jeff Luckey wrote: True but ... that overlooks the convenience of always-available cabin lighting without having the Master on. The post earlier today that referenced an existing automotive delay relay looks like a great solution - cheap, designed for the purpose, plug-n-play, no re-inventing the wheel - what don't we like about that -Jeff _____ From: Eric M. Jones Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:42 AM Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Timer circuit for led array > Timer circuit for led array Reply with quote > I'm looking for a timer to shut off my cabin overhead utility light after about 10 minutes of operation. It's fed directly from the main battery buss and I would like to know that if I forgot to turn it off the timer would do it for me before draining the battery. Any ideas? David Duperron I learned to fly in Cessnas, and as I recall leaving the beacon on was a certain way to avoid walking away from the airplane with something still on. Perhaps the solution to your problem is just to have the cabin light on the same bus as the beacon. Adding an extra gizmo is not the best way to go. -------- Eric M. Jones www.PerihelionDesign.com 113 Brentwood Drive Southbridge, MA 01550 (508) 764-2072 emjones(at)charter.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.comnbsp; ist" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ist" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ist" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message aeroelectric-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.