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1. 06:41 AM - Re: connectors (Larry Mac Donald)
2. 07:09 AM - Re: connectors (R&J. Curtis)
3. 07:47 AM - Re: connectors (Robert Borger)
4. 07:50 AM - Re: Special Coax Connectors: Apollo Nav/Coms... (Stein Bruch)
5. 08:25 AM - Re: connectors (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
6. 08:37 AM - Re: Special Coax Connectors: Apollo Nav/Coms... (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
7. 09:25 AM - Re: Special Coax Connectors: Apollo Nav/Coms... (Stein Bruch)
8. 10:37 AM - stuck starter motor (Janet Amtmann)
9. 06:31 PM - Re: Special Coax Connectors: Apollo Nav/Coms... (Dragoon6)
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I have been engaged in a futile search trying to find the d-sub
connectors that go between a Gat 1 link trainer and it's recorder
and it's performance indicator.
The body of the male,pin, connector is part No. 200345-2 and I
think the socket part no. is 200346-2.
I need two female and three male sockets and the backshells
and fasteners that go with them. Does anyone know where I
might find these old connectors ?
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>
> I have been engaged in a futile search trying to find the d-sub
> connectors that go between a Gat 1 link trainer and it's recorder
> and it's performance indicator.
> The body of the male,pin, connector is part No. 200345-2 and I
> think the socket part no. is 200346-2.
> I need two female and three male sockets and the backshells
> and fasteners that go with them. Does anyone know where I
> might find these old connectors ?
D-subs have not changed much over many years.
If these are, in fact, D-subs you should be able
to identify them by the number of rows of pins
and number of pins. Go to your local Radio
Shack and they will probably have them.
Roger
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Larry,=0A=0AI did a search on GAT-1 flight simulator and the search return
ed a number of links which could be of assistance. =C2-It included units
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ry Mac Donald <lm4@juno.com =C2->=0A=0AI have been engaged in a futile s
earch trying to find the d-sub =0Aconnectors that go between a Gat 1 link
trainer and it's recorder =0Aand it's performance indicator.=0AThe body of
the male,pin, connector is part No. 200345-2 and I=0Athink the socket par
t no. is 200346-2.=0AI need two female and three male sockets and the back
shells =0Aand fasteners that go with them. Does anyone know where I =0Amig
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| Subject: | Special Coax Connectors: Apollo Nav/Coms... |
Quick hint...you can use the same connector! That said, if you'd like new
connectors we keep them in stock....
Cheers,
Stein
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[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dragoon6
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 11:12 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Special Coax Connectors: Apollo Nav/Coms...
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Hello,
I am looking for some (apparently) special coax connectors for my Apollo
(now Garmin) nav/coms. The old connectors are made by Delta Electronics
Manufacturing Corp., part number 4205018N995-000, and are slip-on on one
side with a metal flare to help guide the radio coax connector into place,
then a center-wire solder and twist-on shielding connection the other end.
There are two rectangular flanges for mounting to the nav/com tray.
I am told that these are standard for the older Apollo radios but they are
somewhat difficult to come by. If anyone is selling any or knows of anyone
who has any, i would appreciate it.
These connectors float on the tray, which also helps for easy alignment when
sliding the radio into the tray. I just need new connectors so I can switch
to my RG400 coax from the RG58. Let's see if I can add some photos.
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At 08:39 AM 5/7/2014, you wrote:
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>I have been engaged in a futile search trying to find the d-sub
>connectors that go between a Gat 1 link trainer and it's recorder
>and it's performance indicator.
>The body of the male,pin, connector is part No. 200345-2 and I
>think the socket part no. is 200346-2.
>I need two female and three male sockets and the backshells
>and fasteners that go with them. Does anyone know where I
>might find these old connectors ?
Actually, those are a pretty vintage connector. I
think the first time I saw them on a piece of avionics
they were called "Winchester" connectors. Amp took
them over as their "M" series and now they're TE
(Tyco Connectivity) parts and going obsolete.
Everything you wanted to know about these connectors
and mating parts is here
http://tinyurl.com/n5elt9t
Newark, Allied, Mouser et. als. may have some stocks.
Otherwise, your doomed to beating the bushes of
the obsolete and wayward parts brokers . . .
http://tinyurl.com/l32clrc
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Special Coax Connectors: Apollo Nav/Coms... |
At 11:12 PM 5/6/2014, you wrote:
><adverb.elephant@gmail.com>
>
>Hello,
>
>I am looking for some (apparently) special coax connectors for my
>Apollo (now Garmin) nav/coms. The old connectors are made by Delta
>Electronics Manufacturing Corp., part number 4205018N995-000, and
>are slip-on on one side with a metal flare to help guide the radio
>coax connector into place, then a center-wire solder and twist-on
>shielding connection the other end. There are two rectangular
>flanges for mounting to the nav/com tray.
>
>I am told that these are standard for the older Apollo radios but
>they are somewhat difficult to come by. If anyone is selling any or
>knows of anyone who has any, i would appreciate it.
>
>These connectors float on the tray, which also helps for easy
>alignment when sliding the radio into the tray. I just need new
>connectors so I can switch to my RG400 coax from the RG58. Let's see
>if I can add some photos.
Those are a real odd-ball tray connector for coax.
Most manufacturers went with the TED 9-29-10
connector . . . legend has it that they designed
that connector for Ed King waaaayyyy back when.
They became popular and were adopted by almost
everybody and are still in production.
http://tinyurl.com/ob7xtyq
I've never encountered the connector you've cited.
If you could get me some clearer photos, I'd like
to add them to the archives.
As to your particular question, are you replacing
RG58 because it's damaged or now too short? As
Kelly pointed out, unless there are mechanical
reasons for replacing the coax, performance gains
for replacing it are trivial.
Can you unscrew the cap on the back of the connector?
I think you'll find an access port to a soldered
connection to center conductor under that cap.
I note that the shield connection appears to be
the legacy BNC-style clamp-ring and gasket. With
some care on the workbench, you can salvage and
reinstall the old connector.
If coax replacement IS indicated, you can also
cut off the old RG58 to leave a 6" or so
flying lead which you can terminate with a cable
female BNC . . . then extend your new installation
from that point without risk to the old connector.
I'll bet that critter is not easy to find and
probably expensive if you do find it.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Special Coax Connectors: Apollo Nav/Coms... |
Hi Bob,
I don't believe he's talking about those (king/icom/etc..)...I think
specifically the Delta P/N mentioned used by Apollo/UPSat/Garmin...which are
these (not my picture):
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FBkFonYU8-0/UUHdBy2NWmI/AAAAAAAAHW0/FYiLVN28ZB0/s4
00/IMG_2594.JPG
As noted, you can easily install RG58 or RG400 into this connector and they
are reusable. They are rare because they are no longer in production, but
we have a slew of them in stock just due to normal business with these over
the years. What's harder to find is the little shoulder nuts that allow
those to float...we have to turn some down by hand on the lathe if we need
them!
Cheers,
Stein
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[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert L.
Nuckolls, III
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Special Coax Connectors: Apollo Nav/Coms...
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At 11:12 PM 5/6/2014, you wrote:
><adverb.elephant@gmail.com>
>
Those are a real odd-ball tray connector for coax.
Most manufacturers went with the TED 9-29-10
connector . . . legend has it that they designed
that connector for Ed King waaaayyyy back when.
They became popular and were adopted by almost
everybody and are still in production.
http://tinyurl.com/ob7xtyq
I've never encountered the connector you've cited.
If you could get me some clearer photos, I'd like
to add them to the archives.
As to your particular question, are you replacing
RG58 because it's damaged or now too short? As
Kelly pointed out, unless there are mechanical
reasons for replacing the coax, performance gains
for replacing it are trivial.
Can you unscrew the cap on the back of the connector?
I think you'll find an access port to a soldered
connection to center conductor under that cap.
I note that the shield connection appears to be
the legacy BNC-style clamp-ring and gasket. With
some care on the workbench, you can salvage and
reinstall the old connector.
If coax replacement IS indicated, you can also
cut off the old RG58 to leave a 6" or so
flying lead which you can terminate with a cable
female BNC . . . then extend your new installation
from that point without risk to the old connector.
I'll bet that critter is not easy to find and
probably expensive if you do find it.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | stuck starter motor |
If you put a lamp on the I terminal of the contactor it will indicate a
stuck contactor, and probably a running starter motor. If you put the bulb
across the starter, it will only indicate if the starter has voltage going
to it, i.e. stuck contactor. If the starter engagement device (Bendix) is
stuck to keep the motor running without the contactor being engaged there
will be no voltage generated unless it is a permanent magnet starter motor.
Unless the old Delco starter has enough residual magnetism (does it?) in
the field to light a bulb, be it an incandescent or and LED. I'll take the
connection to the I terminal, thank you.
Jurgen Amtmann, RV6
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| Subject: | Re: Special Coax Connectors: Apollo Nav/Coms... |
Oh!!
Stein, can you send me that schematic in the background (installation instructions
for this Delta connector) of the image you attached to your reply? Knowing
the proper installation procedures would help if I have to re-use the old connectors.
>From your image I see that RG400 can, in fact, work in this style of connector.
That's very reassuring.
Rather than leave a pig tail of RG58 on the back of the tray, I'd rather go with
RG400 the whole way.
I've been busy and have not been able to locate any Delta Electronics Manufacturing
Corp. distributors: DEMC would not sell directly to me as I'm not a business.
Stein, if you know where I could get 4 to 6 of these connectors that would
be great. Just the installation instructions though would be a big plus.
Travis
Los Alamos, NM
adverb.elephant@gmail.com
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