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Wed 10/15/14


Total Messages Posted: 7



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     1. 04:15 PM - Garmin 430 to GRT EFIS (Charlie England)
     2. 04:48 PM - RG393 coax (Fred Klein)
     3. 07:20 PM - King Electronics (Scot)
     4. 10:16 PM - Re: RG393 coax (Charlie England)
     5. 10:32 PM - Re: RG393 coax (Kelly McMullen)
     6. 11:10 PM - Re: RG393 coax (Todd Bristol)
     7. 11:19 PM - Re: RG393 coax (Bill Maxwell)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:15:19 PM PST US
    Subject: Garmin 430 to GRT EFIS
    From: Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
    Anyone have a wiring diagram for a 430 to a GRT Sport? I could have sworn that I've seen one, but can't find one now. Does it require an optional arinc module to display course/glideslope info, from either the GPS or the ILS receiver? Thanks, Charlie


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    Time: 04:48:18 PM PST US
    From: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
    Subject: RG393 coax
    All, In my as-yet-non-airworthy Europa, I=92m about to replace the RG58 coax originally installed for COM and XPNDR antennas. Both my newly purchased COM and (mode =93S=94) XPNDR are part of the Dynon SkyView suite. Dynon sez the RG58=85though perhaps adequate for the COM...will be very unsatisfactory for the XPNDR, and the folks there refer me to =93Antenna Cable=94, p. 230, (chap 11-p.12) in the SkyView installation guide where various coax cables are considered. (I cannot seem to include a link to the SkyView Installation Guide) On p. 231, (chap.11-p.13) there is a chart which appears to state that RG400 (M17/128) is fine IF its length is less than 8=92-4=94. I find that this M17/128 is the spec. for the RG400 sold by suppliers like Aircraft Spruce, SteinAir, and B & C. The chart also lists an RG304 for lengths up to 12=926=94, and RG393 for lengths up to 17=92-3=94. There is also a link below the chart to manufacturer=92s data which is more specific=85there is clearly a special realm reserved for coax cables. I=92ve located a source for the RG393 where I can buy a minimum of 100 feet at $6.89/ft=85and I=92m having trouble swallowing. I=92m skeptical of the notion that SkyView customers are using coax other than the widely available RG400 (M17-128), and I=92m VERY reluctant to spring for this RG393. I do intend to replace ALL of my RG58. Can someone who has some keen knowledge on this subject give me some guidance? =85with appreciation, Fred


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    Time: 07:20:19 PM PST US
    Subject: King Electronics
    From: "Scot" <1975jsa@gmail.com>
    Does anyone have a manual for a Kings Electronic condenser cap. tester, specifically model 603? Thanks in advance for your time. Scott Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431927#431927


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    Time: 10:16:28 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: RG393 coax
    From: Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
    I'd ask myself if the new xponder operates at a different frequency, impedance, & power level from the old one. If it's the same...... Charlie On Oct 15, 2014 6:54 PM, "Fred Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote: > All, > > In my as-yet-non-airworthy Europa, I=99m about to replace the RG58 coax > originally installed for COM and XPNDR antennas. Both my newly purchased > COM and (mode =9CS=9D) XPNDR are part of the Dynon SkyView su ite. Dynon sez the > RG58though perhaps adequate for the COM...will be very unsatisfa ctory for > the XPNDR, and the folks there refer me to =9CAntenna Cable =9D, p. 230, (chap > 11-p.12) in the SkyView installation guide where various coax cables are > considered. > > (I cannot seem to include a link to the SkyView Installation Guide) > > On p. 231, (chap.11-p.13) there is a chart which appears to state that > RG400 (M17/128) is fine IF its length is less than 8=99-4=9D. I find that this > M17/128 is the spec. for the RG400 sold by suppliers like Aircraft Spruce , > SteinAir, and B & C. > > The chart also lists an RG304 for lengths up to 12=996=9D, an d RG393 for > lengths up to 17=99-3=9D. > > There is also a link below the chart to manufacturer=99s data which is more > specificthere is clearly a special realm reserved for coax cable s. > > I=99ve located a source for the RG393 where I can buy a minimum of 100 feet > at $6.89/ftand I=99m having trouble swallowing. > > I=99m skeptical of the notion that SkyView customers are using coax other > than the widely available RG400 (M17-128), and I=99m VERY reluctant to spring > for this RG393. I do intend to replace ALL of my RG58. > > Can someone who has some keen knowledge on this subject give me some > guidance? > > with appreciation, > > Fred > > * > =========== www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List> =========== =========== om/contribution> =========== > > * > >


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    Time: 10:32:14 PM PST US
    From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
    Subject: Re: RG393 coax
    The Skyview transponder sold for US market is 250 wats, mode S, using the standard 1030 and 1090 Mhz frequencies that all Mode A and C transponders use. In other words the difference is in the pulsed message, not the frequency or power. It is difficult to see why more than 8 ft of cable would be needed for a 2 place aircraft, unless the antenna needs to be in an unusual location. Also difficult to see why the com radio would need better than RG-58 cable unless it has less noise rejection than the radios designed 30 years ago that worked just fine at ranges as far as 120 nm with sufficient altitude. On 10/15/2014 10:14 PM, Charlie England wrote: > > I'd ask myself if the new xponder operates at a different frequency, > impedance, & power level from the old one. If it's the same...... > > Charlie > > On Oct 15, 2014 6:54 PM, "Fred Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com > <mailto:fklein@orcasonline.com>> wrote: > > All, > > In my as-yet-non-airworthy Europa, Im about to replace the RG58 > coax originally installed for COM and XPNDR antennas. Both my > newly purchased COM and (mode S) XPNDR are part of the Dynon > SkyView suite. Dynon sez the RG58though perhaps adequate for the > COM...will be very unsatisfactory for the XPNDR, and the folks > there refer me to Antenna Cable, p. 230, (chap 11-p.12) in the > SkyView installation guide where various coax cables are considered. > > (I cannot seem to include a link to the SkyView Installation Guide) > > On p. 231, (chap.11-p.13) there is a chart which appears to state > that RG400 (M17/128) is fine IF its length is less than 8-4. I > find that this M17/128 is the spec. for the RG400 sold by > suppliers like Aircraft Spruce, SteinAir, and B & C. > > The chart also lists an RG304 for lengths up to 126, and RG393 > for lengths up to 17-3. > > There is also a link below the chart to manufacturers data which > is more specificthere is clearly a special realm reserved for > coax cables. > > Ive located a source for the RG393 where I can buy a minimum of > 100 feet at $6.89/ftand Im having trouble swallowing. > > Im skeptical of the notion that SkyView customers are using coax > other than the widely available RG400 (M17-128), and Im VERY > reluctant to spring for this RG393. I do intend to replace ALL of > my RG58. > > Can someone who has some keen knowledge on this subject give me > some guidance? > > with appreciation, > > Fred > > * > > ist" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > * > > * > > > *


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    Time: 11:10:02 PM PST US
    From: Todd Bristol <djtoddb@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: RG393 coax
    What makes the RG400 better/different than the RG58 for the transponder use ?=0A =0ATodd Bristol=0A=0A =0A=0A=0AOn Wednesday, October 15, 2014 10:14 PM , Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com> wrote:=0A =0A=0A=0AI'd ask myself if the new xponder operates at a different frequency, impedance, & power le vel from the old one. If it's the same......=0ACharlie=0AOn Oct 15, 2014 6: 54 PM, "Fred Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote:=0A=0AAll,=0A>=0A>=0A>In my as-yet-non-airworthy Europa, I=99m about to replace the RG58 coax originally installed for COM and XPNDR antennas. Both my newly purchased C OM and (mode =9CS=9D) XPNDR are part of the Dynon SkyView suite . Dynon sez the RG58though perhaps adequate for the COM...will be very unsatisfactory for the XPNDR, and the folks there refer me to =9CAntenna Cable=9D, p. 230, (chap 11-p.12) in the SkyView installati on guide where various coax cables are considered.=0A>=0A>(I cannot seem to include a link to the SkyView Installation Guide)=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>On p. 231 , (chap.11-p.13) there is a chart which appears to state that RG400 (M17/12 8) is fine IF its length is less than 8=99-4=9D. I find that th is M17/128 is the spec. for the RG400 sold by suppliers like Aircraft Spruc e, SteinAir, and B & C.=0A>=0A>=0A>The chart also lists an RG304 for length s up to 12=996=9D, and RG393 for lengths up to 17=99-3 =9D.=0A>=0A>=0A>There is also a link below the chart to manufacturer =99s data which is more specificthere is clearly a special real m reserved for coax cables. =0A>=0A>=0A>I=99ve located a source for t he RG393 where I can buy a minimum of 100 feet at $6.89/ftand I =99m having trouble swallowing. =0A>=0A>=0A>I=99m skeptical of the notion that SkyView customers are using coax other than the widely availab le RG400 (M17-128), and I=99m VERY reluctant to spring for this RG393 . I do intend to replace ALL of my RG58.=0A>=0A>=0A>Can someone who has som e keen knowledge on this subject give me some guidance?=0A>=0A>=0A> with appreciation,=0A>=0A>=0A>Fred=0A>ist" target="_blank">http://www. matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List=0Atp://forums.matronics.com=0A_bl =======


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    Time: 11:19:06 PM PST US
    From: Bill Maxwell <wrmaxwell@bigpond.com>
    Subject: Re: RG393 coax
    It has lower loss, which becomes more critical as you go up in frequency. Waht is OK at VHF, frequently isn't once you start working at microwave frequencies. Bill On 16/10/2014 5:08 PM, Todd Bristol wrote: > What makes the RG400 better/different than the RG58 for the > transponder use? > Todd Bristol > > > On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 10:14 PM, Charlie England > <ceengland7@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I'd ask myself if the new xponder operates at a different frequency, > impedance, & power level from the old one. If it's the same...... > Charlie > On Oct 15, 2014 6:54 PM, "Fred Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com > <mailto:fklein@orcasonline.com>> wrote: > > All, > > In my as-yet-non-airworthy Europa, Im about to replace the RG58 > coax originally installed for COM and XPNDR antennas. Both my > newly purchased COM and (mode S) XPNDR are part of the Dynon > SkyView suite. Dynon sez the RG58though perhaps adequate for the > COM...will be very unsatisfactory for the XPNDR, and the folks > there refer me to Antenna Cable, p. 230, (chap 11-p.12) in the > SkyView installation guide where various coax cables are considered. > > (I cannot seem to include a link to the SkyView Installation Guide) > > On p. 231, (chap.11-p.13) there is a chart which appears to state > that RG400 (M17/128) is fine IF its length is less than 8-4. I > find that this M17/128 is the spec. for the RG400 sold by > suppliers like Aircraft Spruce, SteinAir, and B & C. > > The chart also lists an RG304 for lengths up to 126, and RG393 > for lengths up to 17-3. > > There is also a link below the chart to manufacturers data which > is more specificthere is clearly a special realm reserved for > coax cables. > > Ive located a source for the RG393 where I can buy a minimum of > 100 feet at $6.89/ftand Im having trouble swallowing. > > Im skeptical of the notion that SkyView customers are using coax > other than the widely available RG400 (M17-128), and Im VERY > reluctant to spring for this RG393. I do intend to replace ALL of > my RG58. > > Can someone who has some keen knowledge on this subject give me > some guidance? > > with appreciation, > > Fred > > * > > ist" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > * > > * -->http://www.matronics.com/con=============== > > <http://forums.matronhref=>* > > > <http://forums.matronhref=> > <http://forums.matronhref=> > <http://forums.matronhref=> > <http://forums.matronhref=> > <http://forums.matronhref=> > <http://forums.matronhref=> > * > > > *




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