---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 10/17/14: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:13 AM - Re: battery cables (bcondrey) 2. 10:31 AM - Re: battery cables (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 3. 11:07 AM - Crankcase ferrous particle detectors? (Eric M. Jones) 4. 11:37 AM - Re: Crankcase ferrous particle detectors? (Bill Allen) 5. 12:32 PM - =?utf-8?Q?Re:__Crankcase_ferrous_particle_detectors=3F? () 6. 12:52 PM - =?utf-8?Q?Strange_characters? () 7. 12:54 PM - Re: Crankcase ferrous particle detectors? (Eric Page) 8. 01:12 PM - Re: Crankcase ferrous particle detectors? (Eric Page) 9. 01:14 PM - Re: Crankcase ferrous particle detectors? (Justin Jones) 10. 01:30 PM - Re: Crankcase ferrous particle detectors? (Justin Jones) 11. 01:41 PM - Re: Crankcase ferrous particle detectors? (Bob McCallum) 12. 08:32 PM - Re: Lee KR-2 System Architecture (stickid) 13. 08:43 PM - Re: Lee KR-2 System Architecture (stickid) 14. 09:44 PM - Re: Crankcase ferrous particle detectors? (Neal George) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:13:44 AM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: battery cables From: "bcondrey" B&C still sells these - they're listed as "Super-Flex Battery Lead - Red" (also a "-Black" version). http://www.bandc.biz/grounding-supplies-battery-cables.aspx Bob Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431979#431979 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:31:48 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: battery cables At 20:01 2014-10-16, you wrote: >Bob, > >Several years ago I acquired pre-cut and connector installed battery >cables - I believe from you or B&C. I recently found that there was >corrosion on one of the PC680 battery ground terminal connections. I >want to replace the offending battery and install new #4 cables from >each battery to the #2 ground cable. Though the #2 cable connector >was involved, only the area around the end of the connector was >involved so it can be restored, reused and protected; the wire >itself was also corroded in the case with the single #4 jumper. > >I need one 4" wire length with connector tabs same side of cable, >and one cable 3" wire length, connector tabs on opposite side of the >cable, both #4 cable. This will get the #2 wire removed from the >battery terminals. I did not find pre-cut and connector fitted >cables on the B&C website. > > Can you advise a source where I might obtain these? Many moons ago I did supplied these products. In the interim, B&C has added super-flex jumper service to their catalog. http://tinyurl.com/ow4uwxw Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:07:57 AM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Crankcase ferrous particle detectors? From: "Eric M. Jones" Who makes affordable crankcase ferrous particle detectors? Eric -------- Eric M. Jones www.PerihelionDesign.com 113 Brentwood Drive Southbridge, MA 01550 (508) 764-2072 emjones(at)charter.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431984#431984 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:37:21 AM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Crankcase ferrous particle detectors? From: Bill Allen Hi Eric, you wrote <> I may have misunderstood this to mean a "chip detector" which I have fitted to my Lycoming 0-320 engined aircraft. I sourced mine from a breaker - there are plenty of crashed Robinson R22s out there, and all have chip/particle detectors in their gearboxes. I don't know the original source of these when new, but they're affordable from the breaker. my 10c FWIW Bill Allen LongEz160 N99BA FD51 CZ4 G-BYLZ EGBJ On 17 October 2014 20:06, Eric M. Jones wrote: > emjones@charter.net> > > Who makes affordable crankcase ferrous particle detectors? > > Eric > > -------- > Eric M. Jones > www.PerihelionDesign.com > 113 Brentwood Drive > Southbridge, MA 01550 > (508) 764-2072 > emjones(at)charter.net > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431984#431984 > > -- Bill Allen LongEz160 N99BA FD51 CZ4 G-BYLZ EGBJ ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:32:30 PM PST US From: Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_AeroElectric-List:_Crankcase_ferrous_particle_detectors=3F? 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What's the output from one of these sensors, and what are you monitoring/dis playing it with? Eric On Oct 17, 2014, at 11:36 AM, Bill Allen wrote: > I may have misunderstood this to mean a "chip detector" which I have fitt ed to my Lycoming 0-320 engined aircraft. > > I sourced mine from a breaker - there are plenty of crashed Robinson R22s o ut there, and all have chip/particle detectors in their gearboxes. > > I don't know the original source of these when new, but they're affordable from the breaker. > > my 10c FWIW > > Bill Allen > LongEz160 N99BA FD51 > CZ4 G-BYLZ EGBJ ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:12:28 PM PST US From: Eric Page Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Crankcase ferrous particle detectors? They're called wreckers in the auto business. They break up junk aircraft a nd sell off parts, then recycle the hull. Eric On Oct 17, 2014, at 12:29 PM, wrote: > at the risk of sounding stupid, may I ask, who is "the breaker"? ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:14:48 PM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Crankcase ferrous particle detectors? From: Justin Jones Most of the chip detectors are in the shape of a spark plug, but smaller. Th ey have two magnetic posts that are also electrical contacts. When enough fe rrous metal collects on the magnetic co facts, it closes a circuit. You can w ire it to illuminate a light on the panel or to display on a dynon engine mo nitor. Other monitors may display the condition of a contact as well. Hope this helps. Justin > On Oct 17, 2014, at 13:50, Eric Page wrote: > > What's the output from one of these sensors, and what are you monitoring/d isplaying it with? > > Eric > > >> On Oct 17, 2014, at 11:36 AM, Bill Allen wrot e: >> I may have misunderstood this to mean a "chip detector" which I have fit ted to my Lycoming 0-320 engined aircraft. >> >> I sourced mine from a breaker - there are plenty of crashed Robinson R22s out there, and all have chip/particle detectors in their gearboxes. >> >> I don't know the original source of these when new, but they're affordabl e from the breaker. >> >> my 10c FWIW >> >> Bill Allen >> LongEz160 N99BA FD51 >> CZ4 G-BYLZ EGBJ > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:30:10 PM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Crankcase ferrous particle detectors? From: Justin Jones I meant to say contacts. Not co facts. > On Oct 17, 2014, at 14:13, Justin Jones wrote : > > Most of the chip detectors are in the shape of a spark plug, but smaller. T hey have two magnetic posts that are also electrical contacts. When enough f errous metal collects on the magnetic co facts, it closes a circuit. You can wire it to illuminate a light on the panel or to display on a dynon engine m onitor. 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As far as hard decisions I think Bob went to great lengths with the panel and also talked somewhere about the electrical as far as flight instruments goes as well. Here is a link to some pics and information about the current state of affairs with the project. I have not seen it in person and likely will not until I can pick it up next spring. http://www.krnet.org/krs/boblee/ Please go have a look and I am expecting some pictures of the back of the panel at some point so I can see what is going on there. The instrument on the right (beside the Loran) is a Rocky Mountain Instruments micro monitor for quiet a number of functions I have worked on a few projects but not much electrical, I have a Preceptor Ultra Pup that I am learning about some aspects as I maintain it. Thanks for posting back on my post guys. Bob R Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431997#431997 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:43:24 PM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Lee KR-2 System Architecture From: "stickid" Also see the first post as that is what I responded to Lee KR-2 System Architecture Maybe he sent you something at one time.. looks like back in 2009 Thanks Bob R Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431998#431998 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:44:45 PM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Crankcase ferrous particle detectors? From: Neal George Eric - Continental offers a number of sump plugs with integral magnets... Neal George Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 17, 2014, at 1:06 PM, "Eric M. Jones" wrote: > > > Who makes affordable crankcase ferrous particle detectors? > > Eric > > -------- > Eric M. Jones > www.PerihelionDesign.com > 113 Brentwood Drive > Southbridge, MA 01550 > (508) 764-2072 > emjones(at)charter.net > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=431984#431984 > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message aeroelectric-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.