---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 11/22/14: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:31 AM - Re: Right Side Stick Grip (1) (racerjerry) 2. 07:14 AM - EMC lab look-see on HID lamps (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 3. 07:33 AM - Re: EMC lab look-see on HID lamps (Bill Watson) 4. 09:40 AM - Re: EMC lab look-see on HID lamps (DeWitt Whittington) 5. 07:22 PM - Re: Right Side Stick Grip (1) (Paul A. Fisher) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:31:52 AM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Right Side Stick Grip (1) From: "racerjerry" Let me apologize before I state my personal opinion as I am an ol' fart stick-in-the-mud. If you are going to put all of that junk into the control stick, make sure beforehand that you can control the airplane in a runaway trim condition - able to overpower and land the aircraft with trim set to full travel in each mode. Also make sure that the trim motors will not cause structural damage if left energized. Dinky miniature switches and flexing / rubbing wires have a nasty habit of doing the unexpected. The most likely failure mode is simply removal of power leaving you at your last trim setting, but runaway trim is certainly not unheard of. -------- Jerry King Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=434340#434340 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:14:08 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: AeroElectric-List: EMC lab look-see on HID lamps I got a rare chance to get into the EMC lab yesterday for some 'government work' . . . I've had a couple of HID lamps laying around, one type that I used in my car for a time with mixed results. Got some nice data plots on the community of gremlins offered by these automotive after-market products. They were not as wicked as I might have guessed. Spending the day in Wichita yesterday poked a big hole in my to-do list . . . so follow up on this experiment is a few days out . . . but preliminary perceptions suggest that the OBAM builder wanting lots of light on a 3-4 amp power budget would not be doing himself a disservice by adding HID lamps into the list of options. Are there any List members flying HID out there now? Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:33:18 AM PST US From: Bill Watson Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: EMC lab look-see on HID lamps On 11/22/2014 10:13 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote: > > > I got a rare chance to get into the EMC lab yesterday > for some 'government work' . . . > > I've had a couple of HID lamps laying around, one type that > I used in my car for a time with mixed results. Got some > nice data plots on the community of gremlins offered > by these automotive after-market products. They were not > as wicked as I might have guessed. > > Spending the day in Wichita yesterday poked a big hole > in my to-do list . . . so follow up on this experiment > is a few days out . . . but preliminary perceptions > suggest that the OBAM builder wanting lots of light > on a 3-4 amp power budget would not be doing himself > a disservice by adding HID lamps into the list of > options. > > Are there any List members flying HID out there now? > Yes, I installed kits from Duckworks in my RV10 wings. I bought them around 2007 and started using them in 2011. Each unit has a 55watts HID bulb but Duckworks has had upgrades of several kinds available for some time. I just installed them, liked the results over previous incandescents in a Maule, and forgot about them. They only used occasionally. They get bounced around a lot flying out of a rough field. No problems, good performance. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:40:12 AM PST US From: DeWitt Whittington Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: EMC lab look-see on HID lamps We installed the very first Duckworks HID light kit sold for a Sportsman. We had to modify the kit and make our own lens since Duckworks had never sold a kit for a Sportsman so we were told. We installed the largest bulbs available, I think 75w. We've turned them on several times, but since we are still not flying don't know how they will work for takeoff and landing. They are really, really bright. However, since we have a super-loaded 3-screen panel with all sorts of other electrical goodies for our electrically dependent Subaru engine, we are thinking we should have waited much longer to install landing light and chosen LED so the current draw woud be much lower. One of my partners is worried that the Duckworks HIDs will give super light for take-off and landing, but maybe not for taxiing. We'll see. DeWitt Whittington dee.whittington@gmail.com (804) 358-4333 804-677-4849 C Richmond, VA USA On Nov 22, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Bill Watson wrote: > On 11/22/2014 10:13 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote: >> >> I got a rare chance to get into the EMC lab yesterday >> for some 'government work' . . . >> >> I've had a couple of HID lamps laying around, one type that >> I used in my car for a time with mixed results. Got some >> nice data plots on the community of gremlins offered >> by these automotive after-market products. They were not >> as wicked as I might have guessed. >> >> Spending the day in Wichita yesterday poked a big hole >> in my to-do list . . . so follow up on this experiment >> is a few days out . . . but preliminary perceptions >> suggest that the OBAM builder wanting lots of light >> on a 3-4 amp power budget would not be doing himself >> a disservice by adding HID lamps into the list of >> options. >> >> Are there any List members flying HID out there now? >> > Yes, I installed kits from Duckworks in my RV10 wings. I bought them around 2007 and started using them in 2011. Each unit has a 55watts HID bulb but Duckworks has had upgrades of several kinds available for some time. I just installed them, liked the results over previous incandescents in a Maule, and forgot about them. They only used occasionally. They get bounced around a lot flying out of a rough field. No problems, good performance. > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:22:34 PM PST US From: "Paul A. Fisher" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Right Side Stick Grip (1) Agreed. I have used these for over 5 years (~460 hours) in my RV-7A and I am very happy with them. On the right side, I only have the trigger for the copilot push to talk (CS2), so they can't get into too much trouble. Enjoy. Paul A. Fisher RV-7A N18PF On 11/21/2014 5:08 PM, Peter Pengilly wrote: > Have a look at Tosten grips, made by CH products who make computer > gamers products so very robust. > > This may meet your spec, > http://tostenmanufacturing.com/product/cs-6-aircraft-grip/ > ...snip... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message aeroelectric-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.