---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 12/11/14: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:40 PM - downloadable notes that go with the "Z" diagrams... (Steve Stearns) 2. 01:53 PM - Alternator Disconnect Z17 vs Z20... (Steve Stearns) 3. 03:37 PM - fuse or breaker for OVP? (Ken Ryan) 4. 06:45 PM - Overvoltage crowbar availability? (Steve Stearns) 5. 06:59 PM - Never mind... Re: Overvoltage crowbar availability? (Steve Stearns) 6. 10:29 PM - Re: fuse or breaker for OVP? (Jeff Luckey) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:40:18 PM PST US From: Steve Stearns Subject: AeroElectric-List: downloadable notes that go with the "Z" diagrams... Greetings, Anyone have a link or a .pdf for the notes that go with the architecture drawings? I couldn't find them on the aeroelectric website. Thanks, Steve Stearns LongEz N45FC, currently working on a Quickie... ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:53:50 PM PST US From: Steve Stearns Subject: AeroElectric-List: Alternator Disconnect Z17 vs Z20... Greetings, I'm currently working on wiring up a Quickie with a Rotax 503 (and a glass panel, go figure...). The two architecture diagrams that look appropriate to start from are Z17 "Small Rotax System" (sounds right...) and Z20 "Small Jabiru System". They are basically the same EXCEPT they way the alternator is disconnected (Z17 is downstream of regulator, Z20 is upstream of the regulator). I might be mistaken (please correct me...) but it also appears both diagrams are assuming more of a diode bridge than a real regulator as they both show a 20,000uF cap on the output of the regulator. My questions: 1) What's the significance, if any, of the different approaches to the alternator disconnect? 2) If I use Rotax 264 870 regulator (as opposed to the 866 080 bridge) is the cap still appropriate (it's not shown in Rotex's wiring diagrams? All thoughts welcome. Thanks, Steve Stearns LongEz N45FC (working on a Quickie) ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:37:07 PM PST US From: Ken Ryan Subject: AeroElectric-List: fuse or breaker for OVP? I read on another forum that the B&C over voltage protection thingy must only be used to trip a breaker, not to blow a fuse. Yet, I just re-read the chapter on over voltage protection and did not see that mentioned. So the question is, should the OVP device be used to: a) trip a breaker b) blow a fuse c) either is okay ? ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:45:48 PM PST US From: Steve Stearns Subject: AeroElectric-List: Overvoltage crowbar availability? Greetings, It looks like B and C no longer carries the stand-alone overvoltage crowbar (at least I think that's where I bought the one in my LongEz). I know Bob is trying to get out of the parts distribution business. Does anyone else know of a source or should I just plan on building my own. (and if you have the link handy to Bob's schematic that would be great but don't search if you don't as I'm sure I can find it...). Thanks, Steve Stearns LongEz N45FC (and currently working on a Quickie). ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:59:58 PM PST US From: Steve Stearns Subject: AeroElectric-List: Never mind... Re: Overvoltage crowbar availability? Found it. It's still available at B&C if you search by it's part number OVM-14... Sorry for the distraction, Steve. On 12/11/2014 7:43 PM, Steve Stearns wrote: > Greetings, > > It looks like B and C no longer carries the stand-alone overvoltage > crowbar (at least I think that's where I bought the one in my > LongEz). I know Bob is trying to get out of the parts distribution > business. Does anyone else know of a source or should I just plan on > building my own. (and if you have the link handy to Bob's schematic > that would be great but don't search if you don't as I'm sure I can > find it...). > > Thanks, > > Steve Stearns > LongEz N45FC (and currently working on a Quickie). ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:29:23 PM PST US From: Jeff Luckey Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: fuse or breaker for OVP? The idea behind feeding the Regulator with a circuit breaker is that it gives the pilot the ability to shut-down the alternator (by pulling the breaker) if that becomes necessary. A few reasons you might want to shut down the alternator are: 1. a failed regulator that is giving full field (if you don't have an over voltage module) 2. a failed over-voltage module 3. testing purposes A breaker is simply more practical in this situation. On Thursday, December 11, 2014 3:35 PM, Ken Ryan wrote: I read on another forum that the B&C over voltage protection thingy must only be used to trip a breaker, not to blow a fuse. Yet, I just re-read the chapter on over voltage protection and did not see that mentioned. So the question is, should the OVP device be used to: a) trip a breaker b) blow a fuse c) either is okay ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message aeroelectric-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.