---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 03/17/15: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:27 AM - Re: 3.5 mm 4 pole socket (Etienne Phillips) 2. 06:44 AM - Zenith 601 / Jabiru 3300 re-wire project (Roger McCoig) 3. 07:59 AM - Re: 3.5 mm 4 pole socket (Eric Page) 4. 08:38 AM - Off topic, but it's Electric and it flys (jonlaury) 5. 11:32 AM - Re: Off topic, but it's Electric and it flys (Tim Olson) 6. 02:41 PM - Re: Off topic, but it's Electric and it flys (Werner Schneider) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:27:27 AM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: 3.5 mm 4 pole socket From: Etienne Phillips Hi Richard Having been down a similar path recently (however looking for the plug and not the socket) I came across two different standards of 3.5mm TRRS plugs. If you do find something that looks like what you need online, make sure the dimensions are suitable! The longer version (red) is manufactured by Cliff in the UK, and they do sell to the public. This seems to be used on many set-top-box media players. The shorter version (black) is more commonly used in handheld devices, and relatively easy to come by. They are not mechanically or electrically compatible, with a different order of the connectors. Even Ground is Sleeve on one and Second Ring on the other! See attached pictures for comparison. Thanks Etienne [image: Inline images 2][image: Inline images 1] On 14 March 2015 at 18:21, Richard Girard wrote: > I'm looking for a 3.5mm 4 pole socket so I can make an adapter for > earphone and microphone headset to my handheld. I've tried every way of > describing this to Google and the electronic parts suppliers and can't come > up with one. This is the socket that's on my smart phone but either the > search engine or I are too dumb to get there. In my travels I've seen the > plug described as a 3.5mm TRRS plug, but no sockets for them. Anyone found > these or can show me how to find them? > Thanks guys. > > Rick Girard > > > Believe those who are seeking the truth, doubt those who find it. > -Andre Gide > > * > > > * > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:44:02 AM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Zenith 601 / Jabiru 3300 re-wire project From: Roger McCoig Hello Bob, Thanks for taking time to talk to me yesterday. Just as a quick review, we are doing a complete re-build of the panel and wiring. The airplane is Light Sport and will be used daytime VFR. In addition to the components listed below I am keeping Air Speed, Vertical Speed and Altimeter steam gauges. This is an inventory of the original parts: *Qty* *Part* *Manufacturer* *Number* *Purpose* 1 ATC Fuse Panel Buss (Mexico) 15600-06-20 1 Bat Disconnect Ingram Jabiru FWF 841260 12 volt 4721 1 Voltage Regulator Jabiru FWF R S 51 =93 92 =93 4/1/03 1 ELT Ameri-King Corp 450004 2 Fuel Guages VDO Malaysia 301 220 002 1 10 Breaker Tyco / Electronics W58-XC4C12A-10 Flaps 1 20 Breaker Tyco / Electronics W58-XC4C12A-20 Main Buss 1 1 Breaker Tyco / Electronics W58-XC4C12A-10 GRT EIS 2 5 Breaker Tyco / Electronics W58-XC4C12A-5 Fuel Pump / Radio 1 Toggle Made in China Flaps 1 Toggle Made in China Master? 4 Toggle Made in China 1 Ignition Switch ACS Products Company A-510-2 1 Elevator Trim Switch Ray Allen Co RS2 1 Elevator Trim Indicator Ray Allen Co RP2 Needle Indicator 1 Radio VAL COM 760 TSO 1 60 WATT 4 Outlet Strobe Power Supply Nova Electronics XPAK604X-HR 1 Engine Information System Grand Rapids Technology Model 2000 I am adding: 2 Aircraft Grip Tosten Mfg CS-8 1 Relay Deck Tosten Mfg 1 EFIS Grand Rapids Technology Mini I also want to allow for a transponder sometime in the future. Thanks, Roger ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:59:03 AM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: 3.5 mm 4 pole socket From: Eric Page The difference in contact assignments on this plug type is vast, as it has been used for many purposes, from audio with microphone, to audio with battery charging, to serial data interface. It's not even consistent among cell phone models with respect to ground and microphone assignment. If you're sourcing a patch cable with the same plug at both ends, it makes no difference, but plug adapter cables with something other than TRRS on one end require care to ensure compatibility. See http://bit.ly/1FvOcuj for a long list of TRRS plug applications. Eric On Mar 17, 2015, at 5:26 AM, Etienne Phillips wrote: > Hi Richard > > Having been down a similar path recently (however looking for the plug and not the socket) I came across two different standards of 3.5mm TRRS plugs. If you do find something that looks like what you need online, make sure the dimensions are suitable! The longer version (red) is manufactured by Cliff in the UK, and they do sell to the public. This seems to be used on many set-top-box media players. The shorter version (black) is more commonly used in handheld devices, and relatively easy to come by. They are not mechanically or electrically compatible, with a different order of the connectors. Even Ground is Sleeve on one and Second Ring on the other! > > See attached pictures for comparison. > > Thanks > Etienne ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:38:40 AM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Off topic, but it's Electric and it flys From: "jonlaury" I get a tech newsletter and thought that this will probably be a disruptive advance and of interest to aviators. And it turns out that it was developed in my back yard of University of Calif, Santa Barbara :-) Enjoy. http://www.flyability.com/ John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439469#439469 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:32:45 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Off topic, but it's Electric and it flys Ha! I don't think we'd want to share the skies with that! If you read the page, it's not really "collision proof". It actually just doesn't mind colliding with things indoors because it learns the room from them. I suppose if they applied this to large drones they could send telemetry back from collisions and eventually (in millions of years) be able to learn where most common airways are. ;) Tim > On Mar 17, 2015, at 10:37 AM, jonlaury wrote: > > > I get a tech newsletter and thought that this will probably be a disruptive advance and of interest to aviators. > And it turns out that it was developed in my back yard of University of Calif, Santa Barbara :-) > > Enjoy. http://www.flyability.com/ > > > John > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439469#439469 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:41:48 PM PST US From: Werner Schneider Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Off topic, but it's Electric and it flys John, I have to disappoint you ;) they did part of their study in Santa Barbara but it comes from people of the EPTL from Lausanne, Switzerland :) A funny thing, but not above 200ft please :) Cheers Werner do not archive On 17.03.2015 16:37, jonlaury wrote: > > > And it turns out that it was developed in my back yard of University of Calif, Santa Barbara :-) > > Enjoy. http://www.flyability.com/ > > > John > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message aeroelectric-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.