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1. 09:36 AM - Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler? (Bill Putney)
2. 09:48 AM - Re: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler? (ARGOLDMAN@aol.com)
3. 10:06 AM - Re: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler? (David Saylor)
4. 10:08 AM - Re: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler? (David Saylor)
5. 10:26 AM - Re: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler? (Tim Andres)
6. 10:32 AM - Re: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler? (Jim Berry)
7. 11:05 AM - Re: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler? (Bill Putney)
8. 11:51 AM - Re: Re: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler? (Bill Putney)
9. 12:21 PM - Re: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler? (Jim Berry)
10. 12:30 PM - Re: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler? (David Saylor)
11. 12:32 PM - Re: Re: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler? (David Saylor)
12. 12:57 PM - Re: Re: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler? (Rene)
13. 12:57 PM - Re: Re: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler? (Daniel Hooper)
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Subject: | Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler? |
What are people using these days to label wires?
I use to print out labels on a spreadsheet, cut them out and slide them
under clear heat shrink tubing. That worked great. The tubing protected
the label from all sorts of bad things like water and other liquids one
finds around an airplane. I'm doing some major renovation and I'm
looking for an easier way but I still want to keep track of the wire ends.
I see now that there are tubing labelers that print on the outside of
the tubing. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience using these? Does
stuff like hydraulic fluid, oil, avgas or water mess up the label? What
size tubing to order for 18-22 AWG and 2x22 shielded?
Is there any wire list software that works with any of the labelers that
will print labels from the wire list without having to type it back in
again?
Thanks, Bill
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Subject: | Re: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler? |
Bill, I have one. It is a KROY. Prints on heat shrinkable tubing of
various types.
I don't know if I would say that the markings are really permanent, however
as I see some scuffing. I don't know how it would last with various
fluids. I used it extensively in the beginning. Since I ran out of the relatively
expensive tubing and am too lazy to reorder it, I have been labeling with
hand written labels with a scotch tape overlay. The clear tubing seems to
make more sense and be more permanent.
Rich
In a message dated 5/27/2015 11:37:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
billp@wwpc.com writes:
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Bill Putney <billp@wwpc.com>
What are people using these days to label wires?
I use to print out labels on a spreadsheet, cut them out and slide them
under clear heat shrink tubing. That worked great. The tubing protected
the label from all sorts of bad things like water and other liquids one
finds around an airplane. I'm doing some major renovation and I'm
looking for an easier way but I still want to keep track of the wire ends.
I see now that there are tubing labelers that print on the outside of
the tubing. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience using these? Does
stuff like hydraulic fluid, oil, avgas or water mess up the label? What
size tubing to order for 18-22 AWG and 2x22 shielded?
Is there any wire list software that works with any of the labelers that
will print labels from the wire list without having to type it back in
again?
Thanks, Bill
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Subject: | Re: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler? |
I've used two types of shrink-tube labelers. One was a stand-alone device
like a label printer, built-in keyboard, etc. It was somewhat limited in
what you can print but certainly got the point across.
The other was attached to a laptop and had basic word processing and
graphics abilities, and the requisite learning curve.
Durability was never an issue although I haven't tested gas and oil.
Like printers, they both seem to rely more on media sales than hardware for
their profit. That was frustrating for a tightwad like me, and the fact
that a lot of the tube got wasted as leader and trailer made it worse.
I found I can get satisfactory results using a fine Sharpie on
other-than-black tube.
--Dave
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Bill Putney <billp@wwpc.com> wrote:
>
> What are people using these days to label wires?
>
> I use to print out labels on a spreadsheet, cut them out and slide them
> under clear heat shrink tubing. That worked great. The tubing protected the
> label from all sorts of bad things like water and other liquids one finds
> around an airplane. I'm doing some major renovation and I'm looking for an
> easier way but I still want to keep track of the wire ends.
>
> I see now that there are tubing labelers that print on the outside of the
> tubing. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience using these? Does stuff
> like hydraulic fluid, oil, avgas or water mess up the label? What size
> tubing to order for 18-22 AWG and 2x22 shielded?
>
> Is there any wire list software that works with any of the labelers that
> will print labels from the wire list without having to type it back in
> again?
>
> Thanks, Bill
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler? |
PS-its a lot easier to write on if you get rolls of tubing that's ironed
flat to begin with. --D
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Bill Putney <billp@wwpc.com> wrote:
>
> What are people using these days to label wires?
>
> I use to print out labels on a spreadsheet, cut them out and slide them
> under clear heat shrink tubing. That worked great. The tubing protected the
> label from all sorts of bad things like water and other liquids one finds
> around an airplane. I'm doing some major renovation and I'm looking for an
> easier way but I still want to keep track of the wire ends.
>
> I see now that there are tubing labelers that print on the outside of the
> tubing. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience using these? Does stuff
> like hydraulic fluid, oil, avgas or water mess up the label? What size
> tubing to order for 18-22 AWG and 2x22 shielded?
>
> Is there any wire list software that works with any of the labelers that
> will print labels from the wire list without having to type it back in
> again?
>
> Thanks, Bill
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler? |
I have a K-sun Bee-3. It's done 4 planes now and still works fine.
The shrink tube prints just fine and has lasted 3 years now and I haven't notice
any coming off or fading. I paid around a $100 IIRC. The cartridges are rather
spendy, $35 or so each and you may need 2-3 to do a plane.
The trick is to print several labels at a time and then manually cut them, otherwise
it spools off too much tubing between prints.
Tim
> On May 27, 2015, at 9:34 AM, Bill Putney <billp@wwpc.com> wrote:
>
>
> What are people using these days to label wires?
>
> I use to print out labels on a spreadsheet, cut them out and slide them under
clear heat shrink tubing. That worked great. The tubing protected the label from
all sorts of bad things like water and other liquids one finds around an airplane.
I'm doing some major renovation and I'm looking for an easier way but
I still want to keep track of the wire ends.
>
> I see now that there are tubing labelers that print on the outside of the tubing.
I'm wondering if anyone has had experience using these? Does stuff like hydraulic
fluid, oil, avgas or water mess up the label? What size tubing to order
for 18-22 AWG and 2x22 shielded?
>
> Is there any wire list software that works with any of the labelers that will
print labels from the wire list without having to type it back in again?
>
> Thanks, Bill
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler? |
I used the Dymo Rhino Pro 5000 with their pricey heat shrink tubing. It works very
well, and after 7-8 years the labels are holding up well; no evidence of deterioration,
including firewall forward. There are ways to cut down on the before-
and after- label waste that Dave referred to, but you can't eliminate it
entirely.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442608#442608
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Subject: | Re: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler? |
David, what labelers did you try? I've seen some that come with 5'
length cartridges. Sounds like an expensive way to buy heat shrink
tubing but then I guess my time is worth something...
Thanks, Bill
On 5/27/15 10:04, David Saylor wrote:
> I've used two types of shrink-tube labelers. One was a stand-alone
> device like a label printer, built-in keyboard, etc. It was somewhat
> limited in what you can print but certainly got the point across.
>
> The other was attached to a laptop and had basic word processing and
> graphics abilities, and the requisite learning curve.
>
> Durability was never an issue although I haven't tested gas and oil.
>
> Like printers, they both seem to rely more on media sales than
> hardware for their profit. That was frustrating for a tightwad like
> me, and the fact that a lot of the tube got wasted as leader and
> trailer made it worse.
>
> I found I can get satisfactory results using a fine Sharpie on
> other-than-black tube.
>
> --Dave
>
>
> On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Bill Putney <billp@wwpc.com
> <mailto:billp@wwpc.com>> wrote:
>
> <billp@wwpc.com <mailto:billp@wwpc.com>>
>
> What are people using these days to label wires?
>
> I use to print out labels on a spreadsheet, cut them out and slide
> them under clear heat shrink tubing. That worked great. The tubing
> protected the label from all sorts of bad things like water and
> other liquids one finds around an airplane. I'm doing some major
> renovation and I'm looking for an easier way but I still want to
> keep track of the wire ends.
>
> I see now that there are tubing labelers that print on the outside
> of the tubing. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience using
> these? Does stuff like hydraulic fluid, oil, avgas or water mess
> up the label? What size tubing to order for 18-22 AWG and 2x22
> shielded?
>
> Is there any wire list software that works with any of the
> labelers that will print labels from the wire list without having
> to type it back in again?
>
> Thanks, Bill
>
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Subject: | Re: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler? |
Will the 1/4" Rhino tape shrink down enough to be tight on 22 AWG Tefzel?
Bill
On 5/27/15 10:31, Jim Berry wrote:
>
> I used the Dymo Rhino Pro 5000 with their pricey heat shrink tubing. It works
very well, and after 7-8 years the labels are holding up well; no evidence of
deterioration, including firewall forward. There are ways to cut down on the
before- and after- label waste that Dave referred to, but you can't eliminate
it entirely.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442608#442608
>
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Subject: | Re: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler? |
Yes, they will.
billp(at)wwpc.com wrote:
> Will the 1/4" Rhino tape shrink down enough to be tight on 22 AWG Tefzel?
>
> Bill
>
> On 5/27/15 10:31, Jim Berry wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I used the Dymo Rhino Pro 5000 with their pricey heat shrink tubing. It works
very well, and after 7-8 years the labels are holding up well; no evidence
of deterioration, including firewall forward. There are ways to cut down on the
before- and after- label waste that Dave referred to, but you can't eliminate
it entirely.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
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> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442608#442608
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Subject: | Re: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler? |
Sorry, I don't recall the brands. I do remember they both spit out a lot
of unused tubing. Like Tim said, if you print in batches the waste is much
less.
--Dave
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Bill Putney <billp@wwpc.com> wrote:
> David, what labelers did you try? I've seen some that come with 5'
> length cartridges. Sounds like an expensive way to buy heat shrink tubing
> but then I guess my time is worth something...
>
> Thanks, Bill
>
> On 5/27/15 10:04, David Saylor wrote:
>
> I've used two types of shrink-tube labelers. One was a stand-alone device
> like a label printer, built-in keyboard, etc. It was somewhat limited in
> what you can print but certainly got the point across.
>
> The other was attached to a laptop and had basic word processing and
> graphics abilities, and the requisite learning curve.
>
> Durability was never an issue although I haven't tested gas and oil.
>
> Like printers, they both seem to rely more on media sales than hardware
> for their profit. That was frustrating for a tightwad like me, and the
> fact that a lot of the tube got wasted as leader and trailer made it worse.
>
> I found I can get satisfactory results using a fine Sharpie on
> other-than-black tube.
>
> --Dave
>
>
> On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Bill Putney <billp@wwpc.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> What are people using these days to label wires?
>>
>> I use to print out labels on a spreadsheet, cut them out and slide them
>> under clear heat shrink tubing. That worked great. The tubing protected the
>> label from all sorts of bad things like water and other liquids one finds
>> around an airplane. I'm doing some major renovation and I'm looking for an
>> easier way but I still want to keep track of the wire ends.
>>
>> I see now that there are tubing labelers that print on the outside of the
>> tubing. I'm wondering if anyone has had experience using these? Does stuff
>> like hydraulic fluid, oil, avgas or water mess up the label? What size
>> tubing to order for 18-22 AWG and 2x22 shielded?
>>
>> Is there any wire list software that works with any of the labelers that
>> will print labels from the wire list without having to type it back in
>> again?
>>
>> Thanks, Bill
>>
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Subject: | Re: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler? |
I don't think so. I ended up with rolls of 1/4, 3/16, and 1/8 for the
Sharpie method. 1/8 will fit all but the smallest wire you would label.
--Dave
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Bill Putney <billp@wwpc.com> wrote:
>
> Will the 1/4" Rhino tape shrink down enough to be tight on 22 AWG Tefzel?
>
> Bill
>
>
> On 5/27/15 10:31, Jim Berry wrote:
>
>> tojimberry@gmail.com>
>>
>> I used the Dymo Rhino Pro 5000 with their pricey heat shrink tubing. It
>> works very well, and after 7-8 years the labels are holding up well; no
>> evidence of deterioration, including firewall forward. There are ways to
>> cut down on the before- and after- label waste that Dave referred to, but
>> you can't eliminate it entirely.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442608#442608
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Subject: | Re: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler? |
For the smallest wire you can put a piece of smaller heat shrink on
first, then the larger printed one.
I ended up not doing any of that. My panel was built by Stein so I have
all the markings from his work and on my work now I just pay attention
to wire color.
Rene'
801-721-6080
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Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler?
I don't think so. I ended up with rolls of 1/4, 3/16, and 1/8 for the
Sharpie method. 1/8 will fit all but the smallest wire you would label.
--Dave
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Bill Putney <billp@wwpc.com> wrote:
Will the 1/4" Rhino tape shrink down enough to be tight on 22 AWG
Tefzel?
Bill
On 5/27/15 10:31, Jim Berry wrote:
<tojimberry@gmail.com>
I used the Dymo Rhino Pro 5000 with their pricey heat shrink tubing. It
works very well, and after 7-8 years the labels are holding up well; no
evidence of deterioration, including firewall forward. There are ways to
cut down on the before- and after- label waste that Dave referred to,
but you can't eliminate it entirely.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442608#442608
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Subject: | Re: Heat Shrink Tubing Labeler? |
The tricky thing about the dymo shrink tube size is that it is given as the FLAT
width, AKA the printable size, rather than diameter. So 1/4 tube WILL NOT fit
over 3/16 wire.
I think a formula that should work is
Diameter = (2/PI)*Width
Amazon claims it shrinks 3:1.
It works great, although the label can be partially rubbed off (lightened) with
friction.
> On May 27, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Bill Putney <billp@wwpc.com> wrote:
>
>
> Will the 1/4" Rhino tape shrink down enough to be tight on 22 AWG Tefzel?
>
> Bill
>
> On 5/27/15 10:31, Jim Berry wrote:
>>
>> I used the Dymo Rhino Pro 5000 with their pricey heat shrink tubing. It works
very well, and after 7-8 years the labels are holding up well; no evidence of
deterioration, including firewall forward. There are ways to cut down on the
before- and after- label waste that Dave referred to, but you can't eliminate
it entirely.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442608#442608
>>
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