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1. 05:55 AM - Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor...pedigree unknown (Greenbacks, UnLtd.)
2. 07:07 AM - Re: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor...pedigree unknown (Bill Settle)
3. 07:11 AM - Re: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor...pedigree unknown (John B)
4. 07:40 AM - Re: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor...pedigree unknown (Jan)
5. 07:43 AM - Re: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor...pedigree unknown (Jared Yates)
6. 08:17 AM - Re: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor...pedigree unknown (Jan)
7. 08:53 AM - Re: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor...pedigree unknown (Jan)
8. 09:02 AM - Re: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor...pedigree unknown (Jared Yates)
9. 10:12 AM - Re: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Cont actor...pedigree unknown (jan)
10. 10:37 AM - Re: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Cont actor...pedigree unknown (Jared Yates)
11. 11:17 AM - Re: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor...pedigree unknown (Bill Settle)
12. 11:34 AM - Re: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor...pedigree unknown (Charlie England)
13. 11:41 AM - Re: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor...pedigree unknown (John Tipton)
14. 11:45 AM - Re: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor...pedigree unknown (Bill Settle)
15. 12:08 PM - Re: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor...pedigree unknown (Bill Settle)
16. 12:35 PM - Re: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor...pedigree unknown (John Tipton)
17. 12:52 PM - Re: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor...pedigree unknown (Bill Settle)
18. 01:49 PM - Re: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor...pedigree unknown (Charlie England)
19. 01:57 PM - Re: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor...pedigree unknown (John B)
20. 02:22 PM - Re: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor...pedigree unknown (franz@lastfrontierheli.com)
21. 02:28 PM - Re: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor...pedigree unknown (David Lloyd)
22. 02:43 PM - Re: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor...pedigree unknown (Peter Pengilly)
23. 09:14 PM - S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
24. 09:28 PM - Re: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor...pedigree unknown (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
25. 09:53 PM - Re: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor...pedigree unknown (Lyle Peterson)
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I purchased this starter contractor recently and I was surprised to
see that there was no identifiable manufacturer and country of origin markings
on this part.
B&C declined (refused) to give me this information and suggested that if I were
dissatisfied,
I should return the item..
Angier Ames
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| Subject: | Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor...pedigree |
unknown
I have the same one. I called to get confirmation on the internal wiring of
the "I" terminal that is to be used for an annunciator output because I wa
nted to know exactly how it worked.=C2- Talked to the top two guys there.
=C2- Neither could tell me how it worked nor could they supply a schemati
c of the internals.
From: "Greenbacks, UnLtd." <N4ZQ@verizon.net>
To: Aeroelectric <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 8:35 AM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor
...pedigree unknown
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I purchased this starter contractor recently and I was surprised to
see that there was no identifiable manufacturer and country of origin marki
ngs on this part.
B&C declined (refused) to give me this information and suggested that if I
were dissatisfied,
I should return the item..
Angier Ames
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| Subject: | Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor...pedigree |
unknown
B&C manufacturers and sells products of very high quality. Where the
products are sourced from isn't a reflection on the quality of the parts.
On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 6:35 AM, Greenbacks, UnLtd. <N4ZQ@verizon.net>
wrote:
> N4ZQ@verizon.net>
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> I purchased this starter contractor recently and I was surprised to
> see that there was no identifiable manufacturer and country of origin
> markings on this part.
> B&C declined (refused) to give me this information and suggested that if I
> were dissatisfied,
> I should return the item..
>
> Angier Ames
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor...pedigree |
unknown
I have always had very good service from B&C and surprised that they will not tell
you country of origin ...
I may jump the gun on this but in my experience no manufacturing information markings
tend to indicate that it's made in China ....
I am involved with China in my day job ... Some stuff is good ... But loads are
not .. :-) .... If sold by B&C I would like to believe they do quality checks
to make sure the unit is fit for purpose ...
All the best
Jan
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 13:35, Greenbacks, UnLtd. <N4ZQ@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
> I purchased this starter contractor recently and I was surprised to
> see that there was no identifiable manufacturer and country of origin markings
on this part.
> B&C declined (refused) to give me this information and suggested that if I were
dissatisfied,
> I should return the item..
>
> Angier Ames
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor...pedigree |
unknown
Here's a link to a Cole Hersee 24037 on Amazon:
http://amzn.to/1TlkBvK
When the small business falls short, there's always the big business.
Alas, it isn't always true the other way around.
On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Greenbacks, UnLtd. <N4ZQ@verizon.net>
wrote:
> N4ZQ@verizon.net>
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> I purchased this starter contractor recently and I was surprised to
> see that there was no identifiable manufacturer and country of origin
> markings on this part.
> B&C declined (refused) to give me this information and suggested that if I
> were dissatisfied,
> I should return the item..
>
> Angier Ames
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor...pedigree |
unknown
I assume you have seen the PDF that explain how to wire up the unit ? Link o
n the B&C web site ...
You should be able to ohm out the "I" terminal ...
Not a very complicated device ...
All the best
Jan
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 14:38, Bill Settle <billsettle@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> I have the same one. I called to get confirmation on the internal wiring o
f the "I" terminal that is to be used for an annunciator output because I wa
nted to know exactly how it worked. Talked to the top two guys there. Neit
her could tell me how it worked nor could they supply a schematic of the int
ernals.
>
>
> From: "Greenbacks, UnLtd." <N4ZQ@verizon.net>
> To: Aeroelectric <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 8:35 AM
> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor
...pedigree unknown
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> I purchased this starter contractor recently and I was surprised to
> see that there was no identifiable manufacturer and country of origin mark
ings on this part.
> B&C declined (refused) to give me this information and suggested that if I
were dissatisfied,
> I should return the item..htnbsp; -Matt Dralle,tribution" t
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I do not think that is the unit we are talking about - I believe the unit S7
02-1 is blue ... If you look at the B&C web site ..
All the best
Jan
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 15:14, Jared Yates <email@jaredyates.com> wrote:
>
> Here's a link to a Cole Hersee 24037 on Amazon:
> http://amzn.to/1TlkBvK
> When the small business falls short, there's always the big business. Ala
s, it isn't always true the other way around.
>
>> On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Greenbacks, UnLtd. <N4ZQ@verizon.net> wr
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>> I purchased this starter contractor recently and I was surprised to
>> see that there was no identifiable manufacturer and country of origin mar
kings on this part.
>> B&C declined (refused) to give me this information and suggested that if I
were dissatisfied,
>> I should return the item..
>>
>> Angier Ames
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My proposal was an alternative to the blue B&C unit.
On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Jan <jan@claver.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> I do not think that is the unit we are talking about - I believe the unit
> S702-1 is blue ... If you look at the B&C web site ..
>
>
> All the best
>
> Jan
>
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 15:14, Jared Yates <email@jaredyates.com> wrote:
>
> Here's a link to a Cole Hersee 24037 on Amazon:
> http://amzn.to/1TlkBvK
> When the small business falls short, there's always the big business.
> Alas, it isn't always true the other way around.
>
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Greenbacks, UnLtd. <N4ZQ@verizon.net>
> wrote:
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>> N4ZQ@verizon.net>
>>
>> I purchased this starter contractor recently and I was surprised to
>> see that there was no identifiable manufacturer and country of origin
>> markings on this part.
>> B&C declined (refused) to give me this information and suggested that if
>> I were dissatisfied,
>> I should return the item..
>>
>> Angier Ames
>>
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Ah ... I stand corrected ... The Cole Hersee brand is well know ...
http://www.colehersee.com/ <http://www.colehersee.com/>
Jan
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[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jared
Yates
Sent: 15 February 2016 17:01
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter
Contactor...pedigree unknown
My proposal was an alternative to the blue B&C unit.
On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Jan <jan@claver.demon.co.uk
<mailto:jan@claver.demon.co.uk> > wrote:
I do not think that is the unit we are talking about - I believe the unit
S702-1 is blue ... If you look at the B&C web site ..
All the best
Jan
On Feb 15, 2016, at 15:14, Jared Yates <email@jaredyates.com
<mailto:email@jaredyates.com> > wrote:
Here's a link to a Cole Hersee 24037 on Amazon:
http://amzn.to/1TlkBvK <http://amzn.to/1TlkBvK>
When the small business falls short, there's always the big business. Alas,
it isn't always true the other way around.
On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Greenbacks, UnLtd. <N4ZQ@verizon.net
<mailto:N4ZQ@verizon.net> > wrote:
<N4ZQ@verizon.net <mailto:N4ZQ@verizon.net> >
I purchased this starter contractor recently and I was surprised to
see that there was no identifiable manufacturer and country of origin
markings on this part.
B&C declined (refused) to give me this information and suggested that if I
were dissatisfied,
I should return the item..
Angier Ames
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I purchased this starter contractor recently and I was surprised to<br>
see that there was no identifiable manufacturer and country of origin
markings
on this part.<br>
B&C declined (refused) to give me this information and suggested
that if I
were dissatisfied,<br>
I should return the item..<br>
<br>
Angier Ames<br>
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| Subject: | Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Cont actor...pedigree |
unknown
I mentioned it because its origin is labeled, and we have a good spec sheet
for it, so that would solve the problems cited in the original post. I
probably should have used more words, sorry about that!
On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 1:27 PM, jan <jan@claver.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Ah I stand corrected The Cole Hersee brand is well kn
ow
> http://www.colehersee.com/
>
>
> Jan
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Jared Yates
> *Sent:* 15 February 2016 17:01
> *To:* aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter
> Contactor...pedigree unknown
>
>
> My proposal was an alternative to the blue B&C unit.
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Jan <jan@claver.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I do not think that is the unit we are talking about - I believe the unit
> S702-1 is blue ... If you look at the B&C web site ..
>
>
> All the best
>
>
> Jan
>
>
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 15:14, Jared Yates <email@jaredyates.com> wrote:
>
> Here's a link to a Cole Hersee 24037 on Amazon:
>
> http://amzn.to/1TlkBvK
>
> When the small business falls short, there's always the big business.
> Alas, it isn't always true the other way around.
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Greenbacks, UnLtd. <N4ZQ@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> N4ZQ@verizon.net>
>
> I purchased this starter contractor recently and I was surprised to
> see that there was no identifiable manufacturer and country of origin
> markings on this part.
> B&C declined (refused) to give me this information and suggested that if
I
> were dissatisfied,
> I should return the item..
>
> Angier Ames
>
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unknown
Yes, I have seen the PDF.=C2- And yes, you would think you could ohm out
the terminals.=C2- And yes again, I agree, it does not look like a very c
omplicated device.=C2- However, there is no continuity between the "I" te
rminal and any other terminal.=C2- Hence my inquiry to them.=C2- I am s
till wiring so I have not energized the contactor and checked it in real wo
rld operation yet.=C2- My questioning to them was whether the "I" termina
l is suppose to go positive (+12vdc) on contact closure and have continuity
with the "M" terminal or, have continuity through the mounting base and th
us go negative (-12vdc) on closure.=C2- It would make a difference on the
annunciator wiring.=C2- My assumption tells me it would go positive but
I didn't want to assume anything.=C2- I called and talked to both of them
and neither could tell me how it worked nor could they provide a schematic
.=C2-
From: Jan <jan@claver.demon.co.uk>
To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Conta
ctor...pedigree unknown
I assume you have seen the PDF that explain how to wire up the unit ? Link
on the B&C web site ...
You should be able to ohm out the "I" terminal ...
Not a very complicated device ...=C2-
All the best
Jan
On Feb 15, 2016, at 14:38, Bill Settle <billsettle@bellsouth.net> wrote:
I have the same one. I called to get confirmation on the internal wiring of
the "I" terminal that is to be used for an annunciator output because I wa
nted to know exactly how it worked.=C2- Talked to the top two guys there.
=C2- Neither could tell me how it worked nor could they supply a schemati
c of the internals.
From: "Greenbacks, UnLtd." <N4ZQ@verizon.net>
To: Aeroelectric <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 8:35 AM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor
...pedigree unknown
.net>
I purchased this starter contractor recently and I was surprised to
see that there was no identifiable manufacturer and country of origin marki
ngs on this part.
B&C declined (refused) to give me this information and suggested that if I
were dissatisfied,
I should return the item..htnbsp; =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2-
=C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle,tribution" target="_blank">
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unknown
I'm not sure what is being asked here (ie: subject line - 'pedigree unknown'
) but we are now talking about the "I" terminal, which is shown on any (eg: Z
series or B&C) wiring diagram goes live (+v) when the contactor is closed, t
herefore can power a light which says 'starter engaged' !!!
Regards
John
Sent from my iPad
----x--O--x----
> On 15 Feb 2016, at 07:16 pm, Bill Settle <billsettle@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> Yes, I have seen the PDF. And yes, you would think you could ohm out the t
erminals. And yes again, I agree, it does not look like a very complicated d
evice. However, there is no continuity between the "I" terminal and any oth
er terminal. Hence my inquiry to them. I am still wiring so I have not ene
rgized the contactor and checked it in real world operation yet. My questio
ning to them was whether the "I" terminal is suppose to go positive (+12vdc)
on contact closure and have continuity with the "M" terminal or, have conti
nuity through the mounting base and thus go negative (-12vdc) on closure. I
t would make a difference on the annunciator wiring. My assumption tells me
it would go positive but I didn't want to assume anything. I called and ta
lked to both of them and neither could tell me how it worked nor could they p
rovide a schematic.
>
>
> From: Jan <jan@claver.demon.co.uk>
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 10:42 AM
> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Conta
ctor...pedigree unknown
>
> I assume you have seen the PDF that explain how to wire up the unit ? Link
on the B&C web site ...
>
> You should be able to ohm out the "I" terminal ...
>
> Not a very complicated device ...
>
> All the best
>
> Jan
>
>> On Feb 15, 2016, at 14:38, Bill Settle <billsettle@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>> I have the same one. I called to get confirmation on the internal wiring o
f the "I" terminal that is to be used for an annunciator output because I wa
nted to know exactly how it worked. Talked to the top two guys there. Neit
her could tell me how it worked nor could they supply a schematic of the int
ernals.
>>
>>
>> From: "Greenbacks, UnLtd." <N4ZQ@verizon.net>
>> To: Aeroelectric <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 8:35 AM
>> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contacto
r...pedigree unknown
>>
on.net>
>>
>> I purchased this starter contractor recently and I was surprised to
>> see that there was no identifiable manufacturer and country of origin mar
kings on this part.
>> B&C declined (refused) to give me this information and suggested that if I
were dissatisfied,
>> I should return the item..htnbsp; -Matt Dralle,tribution"
target="_blank">
>
>
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unknown
I was talking to the boss...
From: Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
To: "aeroelectric-list@matronics.com" <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Conta
ctor...pedigree unknown
I'd call back & ask for the next person up the food chain until you get to
the boss, if necessary. That's nonsense, coming from a specialty vendor lik
e B&C.
-------- Original message --------From: Bill Settle Date:02/15/2016 1:16 PM
(GMT-06:00) To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: AeroElectric-
List: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor...pedigree unknown
Yes, I have seen the PDF.=C2- And yes, you would think you could ohm out
the terminals.=C2- And yes again, I agree, it does not look like a very c
omplicated device.=C2- However, there is no continuity between the "I" te
rminal and any other terminal.=C2- Hence my inquiry to them.=C2- I am s
till wiring so I have not energized the contactor and checked it in real wo
rld operation yet.=C2- My questioning to them was whether the "I" termina
l is suppose to go positive (+12vdc) on contact closure and have continuity
with the "M" terminal or, have continuity through the mounting base and th
us go negative (-12vdc) on closure.=C2- It would make a difference on the
annunciator wiring.=C2- My assumption tells me it would go positive but
I didn't want to assume anything.=C2- I called and talked to both of them
and neither could tell me how it worked nor could they provide a schematic
.=C2-
From: Jan <jan@claver.demon.co.uk>
To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Conta
ctor...pedigree unknown
I assume you have seen the PDF that explain how to wire up the unit ? Link
on the B&C web site ...
You should be able to ohm out the "I" terminal ...
Not a very complicated device ...=C2-
All the best
Jan
On Feb 15, 2016, at 14:38, Bill Settle <billsettle@bellsouth.net> wrote:
I have the same one. I called to get confirmation on the internal wiring of
the "I" terminal that is to be used for an annunciator output because I wa
nted to know exactly how it worked.=C2- Talked to the top two guys there.
=C2- Neither could tell me how it worked nor could they supply a schemati
c of the internals.
From: "Greenbacks, UnLtd." <N4ZQ@verizon.net>
To: Aeroelectric <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 8:35 AM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Contactor
...pedigree unknown
.net>
I purchased this starter contractor recently and I was surprised to
see that there was no identifiable manufacturer and country of origin marki
ngs on this part.
B&C declined (refused) to give me this information and suggested that if I
were dissatisfied,
I should return the item..htnbsp; =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2-
=C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle,tribution" target="_blank">
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unknown
O.K., this is why I am hesitant on posting here and why I haven't mentioned
this in the months since I ran into this issue. I knew we would wind up ru
nning off into the ditch on this one.=C2- Here is the link to the contact
or and which also has a link to the wiring diagram.=C2- Feel free to revi
ew the diagram and show me where it says the "I" terminal goes positive on
contact closure.=C2- If you can, then I stand corrected.http://www.bandc.
aero/intermittentdutystartercontactor.aspx
From: John Tipton <jmtipton@btopenworld.com>
To: "aeroelectric-list@matronics.com" <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Conta
ctor...pedigree unknown
I'm not sure what is being asked here (ie: subject line - 'pedigree unknown
') but we are now talking about the "I" terminal, which is shown on any (eg
: Z series or B&C) wiring diagram goes live (+v) when the contactor is clos
ed, therefore can power a light which says 'starter engaged' !!!
Regards
John
Sent from my iPad
=C2- =C2- =C2-----x--O--x----
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unknown
Connect 'B' terminal to battery
Connect 'M' terminal to starter
Connect 'S' terminal to your starter button (+V)
---
'I' terminal can drive (by definition +V) a starter engaged light
See: http://www.bandc.aero/pdfs/001510VFRSingleALT.pdf
Explains the starter on light
John
Sent from my iPad
----x--O--x----
> On 15 Feb 2016, at 08:06 pm, Bill Settle <billsettle@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> O.K., this is why I am hesitant on posting here and why I haven't mentione
d this in the months since I ran into this issue. I knew we would wind up ru
nning off into the ditch on this one. Here is the link to the contactor and
which also has a link to the wiring diagram. Feel free to review the diagr
am and show me where it says the "I" terminal goes positive on contact closu
re. If you can, then I stand corrected.
> http://www.bandc.aero/intermittentdutystartercontactor.aspx
>
>
>
>
> From: John Tipton <jmtipton@btopenworld.com>
> To: "aeroelectric-list@matronics.com" <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 2:40 PM
> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Conta
ctor...pedigree unknown
>
> I'm not sure what is being asked here (ie: subject line - 'pedigree unknow
n') but we are now talking about the "I" terminal, which is shown on any (eg
: Z series or B&C) wiring diagram goes live (+v) when the contactor is close
d, therefore can power a light which says 'starter engaged' !!!
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> ----x--O--x----
>
>
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unknown
John,
Thank you for this.=C2- I had not seen it.=C2- I do see it is "driven"
by +12 on the diagram you sent.
Thanks again.
From: John Tipton <jmtipton@btopenworld.com>
To: "aeroelectric-list@matronics.com" <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Conta
ctor...pedigree unknown
Connect 'B' terminal to batteryConnect 'M' terminal to starterConnect 'S' t
erminal to your starter button (+V)---'I' terminal can drive (by definition
See:=C2-http://www.bandc.aero/pdfs/001510VFRSingleALT.pdf
Explains the starter on light
John
Sent from my iPad
=C2- =C2- =C2-----x--O--x----
On 15 Feb 2016, at 08:06 pm, Bill Settle <billsettle@bellsouth.net> wrote:
O.K., this is why I am hesitant on posting here and why I haven't mentioned
this in the months since I ran into this issue. I knew we would wind up ru
nning off into the ditch on this one.=C2- Here is the link to the contact
or and which also has a link to the wiring diagram.=C2- Feel free to revi
ew the diagram and show me where it says the "I" terminal goes positive on
contact closure.=C2- If you can, then I stand corrected.http://www.bandc.
aero/intermittentdutystartercontactor.aspx
From: John Tipton <jmtipton@btopenworld.com>
To: "aeroelectric-list@matronics.com" <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Conta
ctor...pedigree unknown
I'm not sure what is being asked here (ie: subject line - 'pedigree unknown
') but we are now talking about the "I" terminal, which is shown on any (eg
: Z series or B&C) wiring diagram goes live (+v) when the contactor is clos
ed, therefore can power a light which says 'starter engaged' !!!
Regards
John
Sent from my iPad
=C2- =C2- =C2-----x--O--x----
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unknown
John,
Your statement 'by definition +V' is not the only definition. While I
see your point, it's not uncommon to 'drive' a load by grounding it;
perhaps a misuse of the term, but it happens, which is why the question
had to be asked. A wiring diagram defines the terms.
The sales persons at B&C could have easily provided that drawing to him,
instead of doing the Bubba 'Duh' routine. A specialty shop like B&C
should have employees trained well enough to answer such a simple
question about their products. And it shouldn't be that difficult to add
a hyperlink to that wiring diagram to the product web page, either. Why
make a customer guess/experiment (with multi-hundred amps) when the info
is, or should be, at their fingertips? You can get that kind of service
at your local auto parts store. :-)
I don't mean to beat up on them too much, but this issue wouldn't have
been an issue if the employees had done their jobs.
Charlie
On 2/15/2016 2:32 PM, John Tipton wrote:
> Connect 'B' terminal to battery
> Connect 'M' terminal to starter
> Connect 'S' terminal to your starter button (+V)
> ---
> 'I' terminal can drive (by definition +V) a starter engaged light
>
> See: http://www.bandc.aero/pdfs/001510VFRSingleALT.pdf
>
> Explains the starter on light
>
> John
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> ----x--O--x----
>
> On 15 Feb 2016, at 08:06 pm, Bill Settle <billsettle@bellsouth.net
> <mailto:billsettle@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
>
>> O.K., this is why I am hesitant on posting here and why I haven't
>> mentioned this in the months since I ran into this issue. I knew we
>> would wind up running off into the ditch on this one. Here is the
>> link to the contactor and which also has a link to the wiring
>> diagram. Feel free to review the diagram and show me where it says
>> the "I" terminal goes positive on contact closure. If you can, then
>> I stand corrected.
>> http://www.bandc.aero/intermittentdutystartercontactor.aspx
>>
>>
>>
>> <http://www.bandc.aero/intermittentdutystartercontactor.aspx>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* John Tipton <jmtipton@btopenworld.com
>> <mailto:jmtipton@btopenworld.com>>
>> *To:* "aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
>> <mailto:aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>"
>> <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
>> <mailto:aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>>
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 15, 2016 2:40 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty
>> Starter Contactor...pedigree unknown
>>
>> I'm not sure what is being asked here (ie: subject line - 'pedigree
>> unknown') but we are now talking about the "I" terminal, which is
>> shown on any (eg: Z series or B&C) wiring diagram goes live (+v) when
>> the contactor is closed, therefore can power a light which says
>> 'starter engaged' !!!
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> John
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> ----x--O--x----
>>
>>
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unknown
Problem solved!
I don't recall ever flying a piston aircraft that had a "starter working" li
ght. Perhaps it is not a bad idea!
Sent from my iPhone
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Bill Settle <billsettle@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> John,
>
> Thank you for this. I had not seen it. I do see it is "driven" by +12 on
the diagram you sent.
>
> Thanks again.
>
>
> From: John Tipton <jmtipton@btopenworld.com>
> To: "aeroelectric-list@matronics.com" <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 3:32 PM
> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Conta
ctor...pedigree unknown
>
> Connect 'B' terminal to battery
> Connect 'M' terminal to starter
> Connect 'S' terminal to your starter button (+V)
> ---
> 'I' terminal can drive (by definition +V) a starter engaged light
>
> See: http://www.bandc.aero/pdfs/001510VFRSingleALT.pdf
>
> Explains the starter on light
>
> John
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> ----x--O--x----
>
>> On 15 Feb 2016, at 08:06 pm, Bill Settle <billsettle@bellsouth.net> wrote
:
>>
>> O.K., this is why I am hesitant on posting here and why I haven't mention
ed this in the months since I ran into this issue. I knew we would wind up r
unning off into the ditch on this one. Here is the link to the contactor an
d which also has a link to the wiring diagram. Feel free to review the diag
ram and show me where it says the "I" terminal goes positive on contact clos
ure. If you can, then I stand corrected.
>> http://www.bandc.aero/intermittentdutystartercontactor.aspx
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: John Tipton <jmtipton@btopenworld.com>
>> To: "aeroelectric-list@matronics.com" <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 2:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Cont
actor...pedigree unknown
>>
>> I'm not sure what is being asked here (ie: subject line - 'pedigree unkno
wn') but we are now talking about the "I" terminal, which is shown on any (e
g: Z series or B&C) wiring diagram goes live (+v) when the contactor is clos
ed, therefore can power a light which says 'starter engaged' !!!
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> John
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> ----x--O--x----
>
>
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unknown
Hi All,
I have it in my RV7 , finished in 2007 and it is a great reminder that
the starter has disengaged after initial start up
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> On Feb 15, 2016, at 1:53 PM, John B <jbsoar@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Problem solved!
> I don't recall ever flying a piston aircraft that had a "starter
working" light. Perhaps it is not a bad idea!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Bill Settle <billsettle@bellsouth.net
<mailto:billsettle@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
>
>> John,
>>
>> Thank you for this. I had not seen it. I do see it is "driven" by
+12 on the diagram you sent.
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>>
>> From: John Tipton <jmtipton@btopenworld.com
<mailto:jmtipton@btopenworld.com>>
>> To: "aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
<mailto:aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>"
<aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
<mailto:aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>>
>> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 3:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter
Contactor...pedigree unknown
>>
>> Connect 'B' terminal to battery
>> Connect 'M' terminal to starter
>> Connect 'S' terminal to your starter button (+V)
>> ---
>> 'I' terminal can drive (by definition +V) a starter engaged light
>>
>> See: http://www.bandc.aero/pdfs/001510VFRSingleALT.pdf
<http://www.bandc.aero/pdfs/001510VFRSingleALT.pdf>
>>
>> Explains the starter on light
>>
>> John
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> ----x--O--x----
>>
>> On 15 Feb 2016, at 08:06 pm, Bill Settle <billsettle@bellsouth.net
<mailto:billsettle@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
>>
>>> O.K., this is why I am hesitant on posting here and why I haven't
mentioned this in the months since I ran into this issue. I knew we
would wind up running off into the ditch on this one. Here is the link
to the contactor and which also has a link to the wiring diagram. Feel
free to review the diagram and show me where it says the "I" terminal
goes positive on contact closure. If you can, then I stand corrected.
>>> http://www.bandc.aero/intermittentdutystartercontactor.aspx
<http://www.bandc.aero/intermittentdutystartercontactor.aspx>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <http://www.bandc.aero/intermittentdutystartercontactor.aspx>
>>> From: John Tipton <jmtipton@btopenworld.com
<mailto:jmtipton@btopenworld.com>>
>>> To: "aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
<mailto:aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>"
<aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
<mailto:aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 2:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter
Contactor...pedigree unknown
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what is being asked here (ie: subject line - 'pedigree
unknown') but we are now talking about the "I" terminal, which is shown
on any (eg: Z series or B&C) wiring diagram goes live (+v) when the
contactor is closed, therefore can power a light which says 'starter
engaged' !!!
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> ----x--O--x----
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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unknown
It would certainly alert you if the starter was "stuck" in run mode after t
he engine started due to the Contactor frozen in the start position.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
----- Original Message -----
From: John B
To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Cont
actor...pedigree unknown
Problem solved!
I don't recall ever flying a piston aircraft that had a "starter working"
light. Perhaps it is not a bad idea!
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 15, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Bill Settle <billsettle@bellsouth.net> wrote
:
John,
Thank you for this. I had not seen it. I do see it is "driven" by +12
on the diagram you sent.
Thanks again.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
From: John Tipton <jmtipton@btopenworld.com>
To: "aeroelectric-list@matronics.com" <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter Co
ntactor...pedigree unknown
Connect 'B' terminal to battery
Connect 'M' terminal to starter
Connect 'S' terminal to your starter button (+V)
---
'I' terminal can drive (by definition +V) a starter engaged light
See: http://www.bandc.aero/pdfs/001510VFRSingleALT.pdf
Explains the starter on light
John
Sent from my iPad
----x--O--x----
On 15 Feb 2016, at 08:06 pm, Bill Settle <billsettle@bellsouth.net> wro
te:
O.K., this is why I am hesitant on posting here and why I haven't men
tioned this in the months since I ran into this issue. I knew we would wind
up running off into the ditch on this one. Here is the link to the contac
tor and which also has a link to the wiring diagram. Feel free to review t
he diagram and show me where it says the "I" terminal goes positive on cont
act closure. If you can, then I stand corrected.
http://www.bandc.aero/intermittentdutystartercontactor.aspx
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: John Tipton <jmtipton@btopenworld.com>
To: "aeroelectric-list@matronics.com" <aeroelectric-list@matronics.co
m>
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter
Contactor...pedigree unknown
I'm not sure what is being asked here (ie: subject line - 'pedigree u
nknown') but we are now talking about the "I" terminal, which is shown on a
ny (eg: Z series or B&C) wiring diagram goes live (+v) when the contactor i
s closed, therefore can power a light which says 'starter engaged' !!!
Regards
John
Sent from my iPad
----x--O--x----
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unknown
Before EASA the UK had a requirement for every piston aeroplane with an
electric starter & contactor to have a 'starter engaged' light...
Peter
On 15 Feb 2016 22:25, "John B" <jbsoar@gmail.com> wrote:
> Problem solved!
> I don't recall ever flying a piston aircraft that had a "starter working"
> light. Perhaps it is not a bad idea!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 15, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Bill Settle <billsettle@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> John,
>
> Thank you for this. I had not seen it. I do see it is "driven" by +12 on
> the diagram you sent.
>
> Thanks again.
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* John Tipton <jmtipton@btopenworld.com>
> *To:* "aeroelectric-list@matronics.com" <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 15, 2016 3:32 PM
> *Subject:* Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter
> Contactor...pedigree unknown
>
> Connect 'B' terminal to battery
> Connect 'M' terminal to starter
> Connect 'S' terminal to your starter button (+V)
> ---
> 'I' terminal can drive (by definition +V) a starter engaged light
>
> See: http://www.bandc.aero/pdfs/001510VFRSingleALT.pdf
>
> Explains the starter on light
>
> John
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> ----x--O--x----
>
> On 15 Feb 2016, at 08:06 pm, Bill Settle <billsettle@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> O.K., this is why I am hesitant on posting here and why I haven't
> mentioned this in the months since I ran into this issue. I knew we would
> wind up running off into the ditch on this one. Here is the link to the
> contactor and which also has a link to the wiring diagram. Feel free to
> review the diagram and show me where it says the "I" terminal goes positive
> on contact closure. If you can, then I stand corrected.
> http://www.bandc.aero/intermittentdutystartercontactor.aspx
>
>
> <http://www.bandc.aero/intermittentdutystartercontactor.aspx>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* John Tipton <jmtipton@btopenworld.com>
> *To:* "aeroelectric-list@matronics.com" <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 15, 2016 2:40 PM
> *Subject:* Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter
> Contactor...pedigree unknown
>
> I'm not sure what is being asked here (ie: subject line - 'pedigree
> unknown') but we are now talking about the "I" terminal, which is shown on
> any (eg: Z series or B&C) wiring diagram goes live (+v) when the contactor
> is closed, therefore can power a light which says 'starter engaged' !!!
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> ----x--O--x----
>
>
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At 01:32 PM 2/15/2016, you wrote:
>I'd call back & ask for the next person up the food chain until you
>get to the boss, if necessary. That's nonsense, coming from a
>specialty vendor like B&C.
>
>-------- Original message --------
>From: Bill Settle
>Date:02/15/2016 1:16 PM (GMT-06:00)
>To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: S702-1 Intermittent Duty Starter
>Contactor...pedigree unknown
>
>Yes, I have seen the PDF. And yes, you would think you could ohm
>out the terminals. And yes again, I agree, it does not look like a
>very complicated device. However, there is no continuity between
>the "I" terminal and any other terminal. Hence my inquiry to
>them. I am still wiring so I have not energized the contactor and
>checked it in real world operation yet. My questioning to them was
>whether the "I" terminal is suppose to go positive (+12vdc) on
>contact closure and have continuity with the "M" terminal or, have
>continuity through the mounting base and thus go negative (-12vdc)
>on closure. It would make a difference on the annunciator
>wiring. My assumption tells me it would go positive but I didn't
>want to assume anything. I called and talked to both of them and
>neither could tell me how it worked nor could they provide a schematic.
Here is the schematic for that part . . .
Emacs!
This is the wiring data
Emacs!
>><<mailto:N4ZQ@verizon.net>N4ZQ@verizon.net>
>>
>>I purchased this starter contractor recently and I was surprised to
>>see that there was no identifiable manufacturer and country of
>>origin markings on this part.
>>B&C declined (refused) to give me this information and suggested
>>that if I were dissatisfied,
>>I should return the item.
I can't ever recall having seen country of origin
on any of the commercial off-the-shelf contactors
we've sold over the years . . . Doesn't mean it
has NEVER been there . . . but I'm aware of no
instances where purchasers of this part have found
them to be of poor value.
Bob . . .
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unknown
At 02:06 PM 2/15/2016, you wrote:
>O.K., this is why I am hesitant on posting here and why I haven't
>mentioned this in the months since I ran into this issue.
How do you get a question answered if you don't
ask????
> I knew we would wind up running off into the ditch on this
> one. Here is the link to the contactor and which also has a link
> to the wiring diagram. Feel free to review the diagram and show me
> where it says the "I" terminal goes positive on contact
> closure. If you can, then I stand corrected.
><http://www.bandc.aero/intermittentdutystartercontactor.aspx>http://www.bandc.aero/intermittentdutystartercontactor.aspx
>
>
Running into a ditch??? This forum has been active first
on Compuserve and later on Matronics for over 30 years.
This contactor and its brothers have been discussed at
length and in detail many times over those years and the
photo I posted previously has been on my website for
at least 20 years.
I've never called out use of the "I" terminal on the
z-figures because there never seemed to be much interest
in it beyond the occasional discussion about a starter-
engaged light . . . which hasn't been a really big
thing. I think I've got one schematic that suggests
using the "I" terminal to drive the built-in solenoid/
contactor on a PM starter . . . there was a lot more
discussion about that.
In any case, it's a generic automotive part with
a rich service history of satisfactory performance
on airplanes.
Bob . . .
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unknown
Robert,
Don't take offense to the "running off in to the ditch" comment. It
happens all too often in forums of all kinds when someone asks a
question about the whizifier on their car. Someone else tries to answer
the first poster's question but then mentions in the same thread that
they can't find bulbs to fit the dash instruments. The entire thread
goes on to discuss bulbs and the whizifier gets lost in the reeds in the
ditch.
It is nothing personal.
People will go on forever about things they know something about all the
while ignoring the question they don't understand. Such may be the case
with my response.
Lyle
On 2/15/2016 11:26 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
> At 02:06 PM 2/15/2016, you wrote:
>> O.K., this is why I am hesitant on posting here and why I haven't
>> mentioned this in the months since I ran into this issue.
>
> How do you get a question answered if you don't
> ask????
>
>> I knew we would wind up running off into the ditch on this one.
>> Here is the link to the contactor and which also has a link to the
>> wiring diagram. Feel free to review the diagram and show me where it
>> says the "I" terminal goes positive on contact closure. If you can,
>> then I stand corrected.
>> http://www.bandc.aero/intermittentdutystartercontactor.aspx
>> <http://www.bandc.aero/intermittentdutystartercontactor.aspx>
>>
>>
>
> Running into a ditch??? This forum has been active first
> on Compuserve and later on Matronics for over 30 years.
> This contactor and its brothers have been discussed at
> length and in detail many times over those years and the
> photo I posted previously has been on my website for
> at least 20 years.
>
> I've never called out use of the "I" terminal on the
> z-figures because there never seemed to be much interest
> in it beyond the occasional discussion about a starter-
> engaged light . . . which hasn't been a really big
> thing. I think I've got one schematic that suggests
> using the "I" terminal to drive the built-in solenoid/
> contactor on a PM starter . . . there was a lot more
> discussion about that.
>
> In any case, it's a generic automotive part with
> a rich service history of satisfactory performance
> on airplanes.
>
> Bob . . .
>
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