---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 03/10/16: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:56 AM - Weekend classes (H. Marvin Haught Jr) 2. 11:24 AM - Re: Weekend classes (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 3. 11:54 AM - Re: Weekend classes (Normand Biron) 4. 11:56 AM - Re: Newbie Wiring Questions (Larry Mac Donald) 5. 11:58 AM - Re: Weekend classes (H. Marvin Haught) 6. 12:15 PM - Re: Newbie Wiring Questions (Graeme Hart) 7. 01:46 PM - Re: Newbie Wiring Questions (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 8. 01:59 PM - Re: Newbie Wiring Questions (Jared Yates) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:56:19 AM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Weekend classes From: "H. Marvin Haught Jr" Bob - Do you have a schedule for classes that are coming up this year? I would be interested in attending if possible. M. Haught Sent from my iPad > On Mar 9, 2016, at 10:46 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote: > > At 10:13 PM 3/9/2016, you wrote: >> Crimping is faster, and if using subD connectors, allows mods and correct ing mistakes in wiring. But it's a lot more expensive. If you have the skill s to solder, it will work just as well as crimping. A good solder joint is b etter than a bad crimp, and bad crimps can happen, just like soldering. And s oldered in-line splices are a lot more compact than a butt splice. >> >> Charlie >> >>> On 3/9/2016 9:06 AM, Robert Reed wrote: >>> Art, >>> >>> You have just gone and opened up a whole new can of worms considering th at most, if not all, of the advice I have seen on this forum recommends CRIM PING over soldering in almost all cases. > > I don't know that this is true. Certainly, crimping > is faster, lower risk for damage to some components > and takes less skill to get repeatable joints. At > the same time, not everyone is going to invest in > some of the more expensive crimp tools just to build > one airplane. > > One set of joints I ALWAYS solder it to put terminals > on fat wires > > http://tinyurl.com/gm8lqxo > > I seldom need to do this and just never found it > attractive to go buy the hydraulic tool and matching > die sets. I bought a hydraulic tool from Harbor > Freight a few years ago . . . worked good . . . > was a fine "masher". Problem was that the dies > provided did not always produce the void-free/ > gas-tight joint on the combinations of wires and > terminals in my inventory. Sold the hydraulic > tool on eBay. > > > Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:24:15 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Weekend classes At 10:53 AM 3/10/2016, you wrote: >Bob - > >Do you have a schedule for classes that are coming up this year? I >would be interested in attending if possible I do them by invitation. If an EAA chapter wants to host one and has the facilities, I work with them to fill out the class roster. I've not done one for and EAA chapter in some time . . . the last two were for clients . . . but "have program . . . will travel" . . . Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:54:15 AM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Weekend classes From: Normand Biron Hi Bob, I'm president of EAA Chapter 168 in Dallas. We would be interested in hosti ng a class. Please contact me by email normbiron@msn.com to work out the details. We mee t on the first Tuesday of the month at the Farmers Branch Library. Norm Biron Sent from my iPad > On Mar 10, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote: > > At 10:53 AM 3/10/2016, you wrote: >> Bob - >> >> Do you have a schedule for classes that are coming up this year? I would be interested in attending if possible > > > I do them by invitation. If an EAA chapter > wants to host one and has the facilities, I > work with them to fill out the class roster. > > I've not done one for and EAA chapter in some > time . . . the last two were for clients . . . > but "have program . . . will travel" . . . > > > Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:56:33 AM PST US From: Larry Mac Donald Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Newbie Wiring Questions On Mar 9, 2016, at 11:46 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote: > At 10:13 PM 3/9/2016, you wrote: >> Crimping is faster, and if using subD connectors, allows mods and cor recting mistakes in wiring. But it's a lot more expensive. If you have t he skills to solder, it will work just as well as crimping. A good solde r joint is better than a bad crimp, and bad crimps can happen, just like soldering. And soldered in-line splices are a lot more compact than a b utt splice. >> >> Charlie Speaking of crimping and soldering, I have been trying to fi nd some 3 row, 20 pin d-sub connectors for my Link trainer for three years. Does anyone on this list know where I can find some of these ? Larry Mac Donald ____________________________________________________________ Venture Capital News And The Best Stock For 2016 Is? http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/56e1d100c95fa50ff300est01vuc ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:58:33 AM PST US From: "H. Marvin Haught" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Weekend classes I am working on the Pacer Project that is certified and will be for sale. And I am doing research and gathering parts for the Wagabond we discussed on the phone awhile back with the extended baggage area. It will be my =9Ckeeper=9D airplane and Light Sport. So if you have any classes anywhere, I will try to make one. I know I can make things work using the =9CConnection=9D, reading and working out the details, but it does shorten the learning curve a lot to get some instruction! M. Haught > On Mar 10, 2016, at 1:22 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote: > > At 10:53 AM 3/10/2016, you wrote: >> Bob - >> >> Do you have a schedule for classes that are coming up this year? I would be interested in attending if possible > > > I do them by invitation. If an EAA chapter > wants to host one and has the facilities, I > work with them to fill out the class roster. > > I've not done one for and EAA chapter in some > time . . . the last two were for clients . . . > but "have program . . . will travel" . . . > > > Bob . . . > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:15:50 PM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Newbie Wiring Questions From: Graeme Hart Google "HD-20 D-sub" and take your pick from the many electronics suppliers that have them (digikey, mouser, element14, rs-electronics etc) I'm hoping this is the 20 pin d-sub connector you're looking for. On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 8:54 AM, Larry Mac Donald wrote: > > On Mar 9, 2016, at 11:46 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote: > > At 10:13 PM 3/9/2016, you wrote: > > Crimping is faster, and if using subD connectors, allows mods and > correcting mistakes in wiring. But it's a lot more expensive. If you have > the skills to solder, it will work just as well as crimping. A good solder > joint is better than a bad crimp, and bad crimps can happen, just like > soldering. And soldered in-line splices are a lot more compact than a butt > splice. > > Charlie > > > Speaking of crimping and soldering, I have been trying to find > some 3 row, 20 pin d-sub connectors for my > Link trainer for three years. Does anyone on this list know where I can > find some of these ? > Larry Mac Donald > > > ____________________________________________________________ > *Venture Capital News* > And The Best Stock For 2016 Is? > > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/56e1d100c95fa50ff300est01vuc > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:46:40 PM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Newbie Wiring Questions >>> > > Speaking of crimping and soldering, I have been trying > to find some 3 row, 20 pin d-sub connectors for my >Link trainer for three years. Does anyone on this list know where I >can find some of these ? >Larry Mac Donald 20 pin? Wow . . . that's a new one on me. The only three-row connector I've actually seen in the smaller shell sizes is the 15 pin VGA video connector that was common to the computer industry for years. I've read about some 19 and 22 pin connectors seen on Mac and Commodore computers . . . probably specials. Are all 20 pins used? Could you punch out the hole and change it to a 25 pin from the more garden variety options? Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:59:26 PM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Newbie Wiring Questions From: Jared Yates Maybe you could use the services of someone with a 3d printer. Is the housing itself the only difference, or does it use different pins too? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message aeroelectric-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.