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1. 01:05 AM - Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 03/30/16 (Charles Starkey)
2. 01:05 AM - Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 03/30/16 (Charles Starkey)
3. 04:51 AM - RG (BobbyPaulk@comcast.net)
4. 07:07 AM - Re: RG (rampil)
5. 07:58 AM - Re: RG (Bill Putney)
6. 09:50 AM - Re: RG (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
7. 09:53 AM - Re: Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 03/30/16 (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
8. 11:45 AM - Fw: RV10-List: GARMIN autopilot servos wiring (Carlos Trigo)
9. 09:21 PM - D Sub Crimper Recommendation? (Chris Mullins)
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| Subject: | Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 03/30/16 |
Nice, but the seller of the stripper does not ship to Australia and the seller
of the crimper "may not ship to Australia"! So much for the Australia - US Free
Trade Agreement!
> On 31 Mar 2016, at 5:59 PM, AeroElectric-List Digest Server <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
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> 1. 06:59 AM - Re: Coax Cable Connector Question (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
> 2. 11:14 AM - Re: Coax Cable Connector Question ()
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> Time: 06:59:21 AM PST US
> From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Coax Cable Connector Question
>
> My favorite coax stripper is still available
> on eBay . . . price is higher but still a bargain
> for what it accomplishes . . .
>
> http://tinyurl.com/zl7lfed
>
> A ratchet handle tool with .213 and .068
> hex dies is also available
>
> http://tinyurl.com/h796fxn
>
>
> Bob . . .
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> ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
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> Time: 11:14:41 AM PST US
> From: <sam.marlow@roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Coax Cable Connector Question
>
>
> I've wired 5 RV's over the last 10 years without any problem, with the crimp
on
> type!
>
> ---- "Robert L. Nuckolls wrote:
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> ===========
> At 02:49 PM 3/29/2016, you wrote:
>> Coax Cable Connector Question
>>
>> I am currently planning coax routing etc for my ADSB and COM antennae.
>> I'd appreciate the groups opinions regarding the best connectors.
>>
>> I saved the quote below from an AEROlectrics column by Jim Weir in
>> June 2015 Kitplanes magazine.
>>
>> Regarding BNC connectors :
>> "The ones that last are not compression (solderless) connectors, but
>> good old UG88 (male) and UG89 (female) solder-on connectors. These
>> are solder-the-pin-on connectors and have a lifetime measured in
>> dozens of years. The solderless connectors are what we call junk and
>> i guarantee that within a year or two, they'll give you fits".
>>
>> Does this opinion reflect the experience of the group?
>>
>> Thanks to Bob and to you all who participate in this very helpful group.
>
> Agree about the 'twist on' connectors . . .
>
> UG-88 are good but I've not used one in a new installation
> in about 40 years. In fact, I think I threw some out about 10
> years ago . . . not useless but just a pain in the a## compared
> to a modern crimp on.
>
> See http://tinyurl.com/hulty38
>
> and http://tinyurl.com/j9pdg2p
>
> and http://tinyurl.com/j6ghop2
>
>
> Bob . . .
>
>
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>
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| Subject: | Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 03/30/16 |
Nice, but the seller of the stripper does not ship to Australia and the seller
of the crimper "may not ship to Australia"! So much for the Australia - US Free
Trade Agreement!
> On 31 Mar 2016, at 5:59 PM, AeroElectric-List Digest Server <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
wrote:
>
> *
>
> =================================================
> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
> =================================================
>
> Today's complete AeroElectric-List Digest can also be found in either of the
> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
> of the AeroElectric-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>
> HTML Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 16-03-30&Archive=AeroElectric
>
> Text Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 16-03-30&Archive=AeroElectric
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>
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> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
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> Total Messages Posted Wed 03/30/16: 2
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> 1. 06:59 AM - Re: Coax Cable Connector Question (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
> 2. 11:14 AM - Re: Coax Cable Connector Question ()
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> ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
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> Time: 06:59:21 AM PST US
> From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Coax Cable Connector Question
>
> My favorite coax stripper is still available
> on eBay . . . price is higher but still a bargain
> for what it accomplishes . . .
>
> http://tinyurl.com/zl7lfed
>
> A ratchet handle tool with .213 and .068
> hex dies is also available
>
> http://tinyurl.com/h796fxn
>
>
> Bob . . .
>
> ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 11:14:41 AM PST US
> From: <sam.marlow@roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Coax Cable Connector Question
>
>
> I've wired 5 RV's over the last 10 years without any problem, with the crimp
on
> type!
>
> ---- "Robert L. Nuckolls wrote:
>
> ===========
> At 02:49 PM 3/29/2016, you wrote:
>> Coax Cable Connector Question
>>
>> I am currently planning coax routing etc for my ADSB and COM antennae.
>> I'd appreciate the groups opinions regarding the best connectors.
>>
>> I saved the quote below from an AEROlectrics column by Jim Weir in
>> June 2015 Kitplanes magazine.
>>
>> Regarding BNC connectors :
>> "The ones that last are not compression (solderless) connectors, but
>> good old UG88 (male) and UG89 (female) solder-on connectors. These
>> are solder-the-pin-on connectors and have a lifetime measured in
>> dozens of years. The solderless connectors are what we call junk and
>> i guarantee that within a year or two, they'll give you fits".
>>
>> Does this opinion reflect the experience of the group?
>>
>> Thanks to Bob and to you all who participate in this very helpful group.
>
> Agree about the 'twist on' connectors . . .
>
> UG-88 are good but I've not used one in a new installation
> in about 40 years. In fact, I think I threw some out about 10
> years ago . . . not useless but just a pain in the a## compared
> to a modern crimp on.
>
> See http://tinyurl.com/hulty38
>
> and http://tinyurl.com/j9pdg2p
>
> and http://tinyurl.com/j6ghop2
>
>
> Bob . . .
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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I was told about 10 years ago that RG 400 was a replacement for RG 58 and had better
shielding and less of a line loss.
Can anyone verify? I used in my airplane and it has been flawless. I have talked
to other aircraft as far away as 250 miles.
Bobby
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Yes.
You can google coax specs to confirm
--------
Ira N224XS
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=454385#454385
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RG-58 is vinyl covered and when it burns it produces stuff you don't
want to breath. RG-400 is Teflon inside and out so it burns at a much
higher temperature. RG-58 has become a coaxial type that is more of a
commodity and manufacturers seem to take the spec as a suggetion. I
think when someone says "RG-58 type coaxial" in their literature they
mean it's roughly 50 ohms and the standard diameter. I've seen some
"RG-58" that had pretty bad construction. Very low percentage shielding.
Sometimes tinned shield braid sometimes not. It's all over the map.
RG-400 is a lot more consistent and is really well shielded. If you are
trying to keep noise out or RF in I think the RG-400 is the way to go.
My airplane is so old it has some RG-58 in it but that RG-58 was made in
a time when the military spec still meant something. Now I'm using
RG-400 for all the new installations.
Bill Putney - WB6RFW (Extra-lite)
Chief Engineer
KPTZ - Port Townsend, WA
FAA PP-SEL, A&P/IA
"...you know me to be a very smart man. Don't you think if I were wrong, I'd know
it?" -Sheldon Cooper
On 3/31/16 04:50, BobbyPaulk@comcast.net wrote:
> I was told about 10 years ago that RG 400 was a replacement for RG 58
> and had better shielding and less of a line loss.
> Can anyone verify? I used in my airplane and it has been flawless. I
> have talked to other aircraft as far away as 250 miles.
>
> Bobby
> Do Not Archive
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At 06:50 AM 3/31/2016, you wrote:
>I was told about 10 years ago that RG 400 was a replacement for RG
>58 and had better shielding and less of a line loss.
>Can anyone verify? I used in my airplane and it has been flawless. I
>have talked to other aircraft as far away as 250 miles.
>
>Bobby
>Do Not Archive
Signal loss in the legacy coax style is
not a significant factor in GA aircraft.
We just don't have long runs of coax that
tend to stack up signal losses.
RG-400/141/142 and cousins are modern insulation
much more resistant to environmental effects
and easier to solder. They're also double-shielded
which offers a TINY but insignificant improvement
in performance. These coaxes are much more expensive
but not a significant boost in final cost of the
project.
There are some lower cost coax products half
way between RG400/141/142 and RG-58 that used
lower temperature insulations but are very
good performance for our purposes . . . but
they are fussier to work with for installing
connectors.
If it were my airplane, I'd go with the more
exotic insulations in the 400/141/142 family.
Robust, easy to work with, and dozens of sources
on eBay for small quantities.
But if you have RG58 on hand or already installed
and its working . . . don't sweat it.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 03/30/16 |
At 03:04 AM 3/31/2016, you wrote:
><cstarkey@iinet.net.au>
>
>Nice, but the seller of the stripper does not ship to Australia and
>the seller of the crimper "may not ship to Australia"! So much for
>the Australia - US Free Trade Agreement!
There are dozens of offers on eBay . . . two that
I looked at will ship to AUS
http://tinyurl.com/hlsdgn7
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Fwd: RV10-List: GARMIN autopilot servos wiring |
> Thank you Stein
>
> I believe the DYNON servo wires are all unshielded.
> Why do you recommend the CAN, the RS-232 and the trim wires to be shielded?
>
> Best
> Carlos
>
> Enviado do meu iPhone
>
> No dia 30/03/2016, s 10:39, Stein Bruch <stein@steinair.com> escreveu:
>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
>>
>> You would use shielded multi conductor wires for the CAN portion and
>> RS-232's (and possibly some trim), but individual wires for the CWS, PWR,
>> GND, and CAN termination (if you're using it for the terminator on the CAN).
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Stein
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Trigo
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 8:21 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: GARMIN autopilot servos wiring
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Carlos Trigo <trigo@mail.telepac.pt>
>>
>> Guys
>>
>> Those of you who installed or are installing a GARMIN G3X, which wires or
>> multi-wire cable did you use to connect the autopilot servos?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Carlos
>>
>> Enviado do meu iPhone
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| Subject: | D Sub Crimper Recommendation? |
Sounds like the crimp on coax connectors will work well. Possibly Mr Weir
was speaking about the twist on variety.
Thank you for the tool suggestions! Extremely helpful.
Wondering if you have a favorite reasonably priced d sub crimper?
Chris M
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