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1. 06:24 AM - Charlotte, NC Weekend Seminar May 21-22 (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
2. 10:55 AM - pins and wire and tools (Larry Mac Donald)
3. 10:56 AM - pins and wire and tools (Larry Mac Donald)
4. 11:15 AM - Re: pins and wire and tools (Ron Raby)
5. 11:55 AM - Re: pins and wire and tools (Larry Mac Donald)
6. 03:24 PM - alternator (BobbyPaulk@comcast.net)
7. 05:12 PM - Re: alternator (Jeff Luckey)
8. 07:38 PM - Re: alternator (user9253)
9. 08:58 PM - Re: Charlotte, NC Weekend Seminar May 21-22 (ashleysc@broadstripe.net)
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| Subject: | Charlotte, NC Weekend Seminar May 21-22 |
Lister Ken Larson has offered the hospitality of
EAA Chapter 309 to host an AeroElectric Connection
weekend seminar http://tinyurl.com/z5hdcq2
on KIPJ http://tinyurl.com/h67yba9 May 21 and 22.
Dr. Dee and I are coming in a day early so that we
can spend more time with our friends in NC. There
will probably be a Friday evening meet-n-greet on
Lake Norman Airpark http://tinyurl.com/gla9ma5
I've opened a sign=up portal on the website at
http://aeroelectric.com We need ~20 sign-ups
by May 5 so we can buy non-refundable
airline tickets at reasonable prices. It's
been awhile since we've been out in the field . . .
looking forward to meeting many of our readers
and friends.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | pins and wire and tools |
Bob,
It seems as if I keep hitting a brick wall at every step I try.
I met a complete stranger the other day and showed him the "Winchester c
onnector"
and he asked "Is that an amp ?". He then len't me his removal tool,the b
lack one with the plunger,
and I came home and removed all of the pins and sockets I had been given
. Turns out they were
all machine crimped so it's unlikly that I will be able to get them apar
t so as to reuse them.
That leaves me in need of 60 pins and 40 sockets . I don't know what siz
e these are.
And 1500 ft. of 22 Ga. stranded wire. And a crimping tool. I have a Thom
as & Betts WT100M sta-kon tool.
That might work but I'm not sure. Do you sell any of these things ?
Larry
Thanks Bob,
If I can find the connectors I will certainly take you up on that offer.
Larry
On Mar 11, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
Bob,
There are a few things I could do but, wow, what a headache.
The link trainer has two female plug sockets mounted within a plate on t
he side of the machine.
To start changing connectors I would have to make a new mounting plate a
nd desolder 40 22 ga. wires
then solder them back into the new connectors. I would have to do the sa
me to the 20 wires that are part
of the flight recorder.
Yes, these are pretty old connectors. They were used on the trainer when
they were built in 72.
Larry
I wouldn't use solder connectors for so many
wires. I've probably got what you need in
crimped housings and pins to do the job.
Got a tool I could loan you too.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | pins and wire and tools |
Bob,
It seems as if I keep hitting a brick wall at every step I try.
I met a complete stranger the other day and showed him the "Winchester c
onnector"
and he asked "Is that an amp ?". He then len't me his removal tool,the b
lack one with the plunger,
and I came home and removed all of the pins and sockets I had been given
. Turns out they were
all machine crimped so it's unlikly that I will be able to get them apar
t so as to reuse them.
That leaves me in need of 60 pins and 40 sockets . I don't know what siz
e these are.
And 1500 ft. of 22 Ga. stranded wire. And a crimping tool. I have a Thom
as & Betts WT100M sta-kon tool.
That might work but I'm not sure. Do you sell any of these things ?
Larry
Thanks Bob,
If I can find the connectors I will certainly take you up on that offer.
Larry
On Mar 11, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
Bob,
There are a few things I could do but, wow, what a headache.
The link trainer has two female plug sockets mounted within a plate on t
he side of the machine.
To start changing connectors I would have to make a new mounting plate a
nd desolder 40 22 ga. wires
then solder them back into the new connectors. I would have to do the sa
me to the 20 wires that are part
of the flight recorder.
Yes, these are pretty old connectors. They were used on the trainer when
they were built in 72.
Larry
I wouldn't use solder connectors for so many
wires. I've probably got what you need in
crimped housings and pins to do the job.
Got a tool I could loan you too.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | pins and wire and tools |
Larry, Bob
I use Winchester connectors at my work. If you post a couple of pictures. I
may have what you are looking for. The part # I have is 1020p and 1020s.
Link to picture of the pin:
http://ecommerce.cdmelectronics.com/winchester-electronics/100-1020P
Regards
Ron Raby
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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 1:53 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: pins and wire and tools
Bob,
It seems as if I keep hitting a brick wall at every step I try.
I met a complete stranger the other day and showed him the "Winchester
connector"
and he asked "Is that an amp ?". He then len't me his removal tool,the black
one with the plunger,
and I came home and removed all of the pins and sockets I had been given.
Turns out they were
all machine crimped so it's unlikly that I will be able to get them apart so
as to reuse them.
That leaves me in need of 60 pins and 40 sockets . I don't know what size
these are.
And 1500 ft. of 22 Ga. stranded wire. And a crimping tool. I have a Thomas &
Betts WT100M sta-kon tool.
That might work but I'm not sure. Do you sell any of these things ?
Larry
Thanks Bob,
If I can find the connectors I will certainly take you up on that offer.
Larry
On Mar 11, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
Bob,
There are a few things I could do but, wow, what a headache.
The link trainer has two female plug sockets mounted within a plate on the
side of the machine.
To start changing connectors I would have to make a new mounting plate and
desolder 40 22 ga. wires
then solder them back into the new connectors. I would have to do the same
to the 20 wires that are part
of the flight recorder.
Yes, these are pretty old connectors. They were used on the trainer when
they were built in 72.
Larry
I wouldn't use solder connectors for so many
wires. I've probably got what you need in
crimped housings and pins to do the job.
Got a tool I could loan you too.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: pins and wire and tools |
On Apr 4, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Ron Raby wrote:
Ron,
My pins have barbs on them in order to keep them locked into the plug.
Larry
> Larry, Bob
>
> I use Winchester connectors at my work. If you post a couple of pictur
es. I may have what you are looking for. The part # I have is 1020p and
1020s.
>
> Link to picture of the pin:
> http://ecommerce.cdmelectronics.com/winchester-electronics/100-1020P
>
> Regards
>
> Ron Raby
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I have a two fold problem or maybe just 2 separate problems or maybe the second
item is not a problem at all.
Went to take a friend for a ride Sat. and the engine started fine. Looked at the
instruments with the Alternator switch on and the Dynon read zero voltage and
said the internal ( Dynon ) battery was going to shut down shortly. Alternator
is Nippon Denso 40 amp ( 3) wire. Could the master solenoid fail after start
so that the alternator could not see the voltage.
Switch was still on. I cycled the Alt switch several times but did not cycle the
master. We pulled the plane back in the hangar and checked all connections and
turned the master on. It read battery voltage at 13.6 v. I have never had this
problem before.
Pulled it back out and it started right up and everything worked as it should.
So I turned off the master with the alt. switch still on and the voltage started
up 15, 16, 17 and as I turned the master back on it dropped immediately to 13.6
and then went to charging at 14.4 to 14.6 and not running away. All power
is connected downstream of the master solenoid. I am thinking the residual voltage
in the alternator went back to the post on the master and fed thru the Alt
on switch on the positive buss and back to the Alternator and that started a
runaway. I did not think to turn the Alt switch off but I think that would have
stopped it as well since it would not sense a reference voltage.
Can anyone verify that my thinking is correct about the alternator runaway and
/ or the solenoid failing after start. I have not had a chance to fly since re-installing
the cowl.
Be nice - I don't have a Nomex flight suit.
Bobby
Age 77
An analog guy in a digital world
do not archive.
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Bobby,
Can you give us a little more detail...
What kind of airplane?
Do you have an electrical drawing of the system?
What part of the country are you in?
-Jeff
On Monday, April 4, 2016 3:43 PM, "BobbyPaulk@comcast.net" <BobbyPaulk@
comcast.net> wrote:
I have a two fold problem or maybe just 2 separate problems or maybe the s
econd item is not a problem at all.
Went to take a friend for a ride Sat. and the engine started fine. Looked a
t the instruments with the Alternator switch on and the Dynon read zero vol
tage and said the internal ( Dynon ) battery was going to shut down shortly
. Alternator is Nippon Denso 40 amp ( 3) wire. Could the master solenoid fa
il after start so that the alternator could not see the voltage.Switch was
still on. I cycled the Alt switch several times but did not cycle the maste
r. We pulled the plane back in the hangar and checked all connections and t
urned the master on. It read battery voltage at 13.6 v.=C2- I have never
had this problem before.
Pulled it back out and it started right up and everything worked as it shou
ld.=C2-
So I turned off the master with the alt. switch still on and the voltage st
arted up 15, 16, 17 and as I turned the master back on it dropped immediate
ly to 13.6 and then went to charging at 14.4 to 14.6 and not running away.
All power is connected downstream of the master solenoid. I am thinking the
residual voltage in the alternator went back to the post on the master and
fed thru the Alt on switch on the positive buss and back to the Alternator
and that started a runaway. I did not think to turn the Alt switch off but
I think that would have stopped it as well since it would not sense a refe
rence voltage.
Can anyone verify that my thinking is correct about the alternator runaway
and / or the solenoid failing after start. I have not had a chance to fly s
ince re-installing the cowl.
Be nice - I don't have a Nomex flight suit.
Bobby
Age 77
An analog guy in a digital world
do not archive.
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It seems that the Dynon lost power for some reason, bad avionics switch or loose
connection anywhere between the master contactor and power bus. The vast majority
of electrical problems are due to bad connections. Check every switch
and terminal before suspecting more expensive parts.
--------
Joe Gores
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=454556#454556
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| Subject: | Re: Charlotte, NC Weekend Seminar May 21-22 |
Hi Bob;
Unfortunately I'm not a candidate for your North Carolina meeting.=C2- Do
you ever get out to the north-west coast, say Seattle-ish?
Cheers!=C2-=C2- Stu.
PS: I have your manual, and a good piece of work it is!
Stuart C. Ashley
1638 Penn Cove Road
Oak Harbor, WA=C2- 98277
ashleysc@broadstripe.net
360-678-5255
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 6:21:59 AM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Charlotte, NC Weekend Seminar May 21-22
Lister Ken Larson has offered the hospitality of
EAA Chapter 309 to host an AeroElectric Connection
weekend seminar http://tinyurl.com/z5hdcq2
on KIPJ http://tinyurl.com/h67yba9 May 21 and 22.
Dr. Dee and I are coming in a day early so that we
can spend more time with our friends in NC. There
will probably be a Friday evening meet-n-greet on
Lake Norman Airpark http://tinyurl.com/gla9ma5
I've opened a sign=up portal on the website at
http://aeroelectric.com =C2- We need ~20 sign-ups
by May 5 so we can buy non-refundable
airline tickets at reasonable prices. It's
been awhile since we've been out in the field . . .
looking forward to meeting many of our readers
and friends.
=C2- Bob . . .
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