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Tue 04/19/16


Total Messages Posted: 24



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     1. 05:35 AM - Cooling fans (Carlos Trigo)
     2. 05:54 AM - Re: Cooling fans (Robert Borger)
     3. 06:50 AM - Re: Cooling fans (John Tipton)
     4. 07:01 AM - Re: Cooling fans (William Hunter)
     5. 07:50 AM - Re: Cooling fans (Bill Watson)
     6. 08:05 AM - Re: Cooling fans (Carlos Trigo)
     7. 08:06 AM - Re: Cooling fans (Carlos Trigo)
     8. 08:17 AM - Re: Cooling fans (B Tomm)
     9. 08:38 AM - Re: Cooling fans (Stein Bruch)
    10. 08:44 AM - Re: Cooling fans (Carlos Trigo)
    11. 09:43 AM - Re: Cooling fans (RGent1224@aol.com)
    12. 09:46 AM - Re: Cooling fans (RGent1224@aol.com)
    13. 10:09 AM - Re: Cooling fans (infow)
    14. 11:47 AM - Re: Cooling fans (Charles Kuss)
    15. 12:20 PM - Re: Cooling fans (Bill Watson)
    16. 01:41 PM - Re: Cooling fans (GTH)
    17. 01:44 PM - Matronics Web Server Back Online (Matt Dralle)
    18. 01:46 PM - EDN Article on EMC Troubleshooting (Matt Prather)
    19. 02:47 PM - Re: Cooling fans (Carlos Trigo)
    20. 03:41 PM - Powering the EFIS system (Carlos Trigo)
    21. 04:27 PM - Re: RV10-List: Powering the EFIS system (Phillip Perry)
    22. 05:55 PM - Re: Matronics Web Server Back Online (donjohnston)
    23. 08:14 PM - Re: EDN Article on EMC Troubleshooting (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
    24. 08:16 PM - Re: Re: RV10-List: Powering the EFIS system (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:44:59 PM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Matronics Web Server Back Online
    Dear Listers, The Matronics Web server lost a critical system hard drive yesterday 4/18/2016. I have been working feverishly for the last 24 hours to repair the system and get the Matronics Forums and other web-based resources back online. Email services were not impacted in anyway. I'm happy to report that as of about 1:30 PDT on Tuesday 4/19/2016 the system is back online and all resources were successfully restored from a backup. My apologies for the down time. Matt Dralle Matronics Email and Forum Admin


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    Time: 01:46:00 PM PST US
    Subject: EDN Article on EMC Troubleshooting
    From: Matt Prather <mapratherid@gmail.com>
    This series of articles reminds me of some of Mr. Nuckolls' methods of debugging aeroelectric problems - like using an AM radio as a "sniffer": http://www.edn.com/electronics-blogs/the-emc-blog/4378152/An-EMC-Troubleshooting-Kit--Part-1a-Emissions- Cheers, Matt-


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    Time: 02:47:34 PM PST US
    From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo@mail.telepac.pt>
    Subject: Cooling fans
    Stein I am not finding any computer fans in your website. Can you please tell where they are in your online store? Carlos From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stein Bruch Sent: ter=E7a-feira, 19 de Abril de 2016 16:36 Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Cooling fans Most of the computer fans (at least the ones we sell for less than $10) are simple to wire because they typically have colored wires=85.red is always power, black is always ground, and the others are various rpm/sense wires that you don=92t need to use. No need to run them through a thermostat, a simple switch will suffice. We also stock the little =93grates=94 that go over them to direct the air appropriately (living in snow country we learn a thing or two about defrosting). Don=92t make it more complicated than it needs to be ' keep it simple. Cheers, Stein From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Trigo Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2016 10:05 AM Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Cooling fans Hello John I bought one similar to those, but the problem is that it has a 4-pin computer connector, and I don=92t know how to wire it. After some research, I came to the conclusion that one of the wires is to control the fan, and that control is done through the motherboards of the computer, which is not the case for us. That=92s the reason why I am asking for specific fans that other builders h ave successfully used, and for how to wire them. Carlos -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Tipton Sent: ter=E7a-feira, 19 de Abril de 2016 14:49 Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Cooling fans --> < <mailto:jmtipton@btopenworld.com> jmtipton@btopenworld.com> Hi Carlos I've been thinking along similar lines: how about a computer CPU cooling fans 12v: <http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2055119.m570.l1313 =2ETR0. TRC0.H0.Xcpu+cooling+fans+12v.TRS0&_nkw=cpu+cooling+fans+12v&_sacat=0> http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2055119.m570.l1313. TR0.T RC0.H0.Xcpu+cooling+fans+12v.TRS0&_nkw=cpu+cooling+fans+12v&_sacat=0 Regards John Sent from my iPad ----x--O--x---- > On 19 Apr 2016, at 01:33 pm, Carlos Trigo < <mailto:trigo@mail.telepac.pt > trigo@mail.telepac.pt> wrote: > > --> < <mailto:trigo@mail.telepac.pt> trigo@mail.telepac.pt> > > Guys > > I am looking for cooling fans to install in my aircraft dashboard, to extract heated air behind the avionics of the instrument panel and help defrost the windshield. > > I would welcome some information about type and brand of fans, source, an d wiring information. > > Thanks > Carlos > > > > > <http://www.buildersbooks.com> www.buildersbooks.com ribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigat o r?AeroElectric-List <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List%3c> <===== =========== ttp://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_c ampai gn=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> Sem v=EDrus. <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_c ampai gn=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> www.avast.com --- Este e-mail foi verificado em termos de v=EDrus pelo software antiv=EDrus A vast. https://www.avast.com/antivirus


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    Time: 03:41:32 PM PST US
    From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo@mail.telepac.pt>
    Subject: Powering the EFIS system
    Group I am beginning to install the EFIS G3X system from GARMIN in the RV-10, and I have to put power into (not more not less than) 12 devices (2 Display units, 2 ADAHRS, 1 engine module, 3 autopilot servos and so on). In some devices there are 2 independent power inputs. I am trying to figure out which will be the best architecture for the power circuits to these 12 devices. I know that some of you are against the single Avionics switch, and I am leaning to agree, not including that single point of failure, but how about the distribution system? I am not searching for opinions on the breaker or fuses discussion, just to know what other people did or recommend to do with busses and circuits. I should add that I have a dual battery /dual alternator energy system. All good suggestions welcome! Thanks Carlos --- Este e-mail foi verificado em termos de v=C3=ADrus pelo software antiv=C3 =ADrus Avast. https://www.avast.com/antivirus


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    Time: 04:27:31 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: RV10-List: Powering the EFIS system
    From: Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com>
    Carlos, The lid is off the can of worms. This should be interesting! I've found t hat coating my wires in chromate primer has benefits too. ;) All seriousness, though I can see people breaking out the flame throwers alr eady, what does your main buss look like? Single Alt / Single Battery? Du al alt (hot/standby) single battery, etc.... Phil Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 19, 2016, at 5:36 PM, Carlos Trigo <trigo@mail.telepac.pt> wrote: > > Group > > I am beginning to install the EFIS G3X system from GARMIN in the RV-10, an d I have to put power into (not more not less than) 12 devices (2 Display un its, 2 ADAHRS, 1 engine module, 3 autopilot servos and so on). > In some devices there are 2 independent power inputs. > > I am trying to figure out which will be the best architecture for the powe r circuits to these 12 devices. > I know that some of you are against the single Avionics switch, and I am l eaning to agree, not including that single point of failure, but how about t he distribution system? > I am not searching for opinions on the breaker or fuses discussion, just t o know what other people did or recommend to do with busses and circuits. > > I should add that I have a dual battery /dual alternator energy system. > All good suggestions welcome! > > Thanks > Carlos > > > > > > > > Sem v=C3=ADrus. www.avast.com


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    Time: 05:55:11 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Matronics Web Server Back Online
    From: "donjohnston" <don@velocity-xl.com>
    Matt!!! You're back! :D Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=455237#455237


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    Time: 08:14:13 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: EDN Article on EMC Troubleshooting
    At 03:44 PM 4/19/2016, you wrote: >This series of articles reminds me of some of Mr. Nuckolls' methods >of debugging aeroelectric problems - like using an AM radio as a "sniffer": > ><http://www.edn.com/electronics-blogs/the-emc-blog/4378152/An-EMC-Troubleshooting-Kit--Part-1a-Emissions->http://www.edn.com/electronics-blogs/the-emc-blog/4378152/An-EMC-Troubleshooting-Kit--Part-1a-Emissions- > > >Cheers, >Matt- Thanks for the heads-up! I've heard of this guy but the Raytheon-Beech organization liked the Kimmle and Gherke RF guru twins. Took a two day seminar from Gherke hisself about 20 years ago. Wyatt seems like a real hammer-n-tongs sunk-werkser kind of guy . . . I've gathered up his stuff and added it to my library. Bob . . .


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    Time: 08:16:09 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: RV10-List: Powering the EFIS system
    At 06:26 PM 4/19/2016, you wrote: >Carlos, > >The lid is off the can of worms. This should be interesting! I've >found that coating my wires in chromate primer has benefits too. ;) > >All seriousness, though I can see people breaking out the flame >throwers already, what does your main buss look like? Single Alt / >Single Battery? Dual alt (hot/standby) single battery, etc.... > >Phil I would start in the same place we do with any new TC design. Fill out the load analysis sheets and partition the loads by flight modes. What are your energy sources and what size are they? What is the worst case scenario for comfortable continuation of flight in the en-route mode that is most conservative of energy available? The task starts with little buckets of loads and little buckets of energy. Figure out what goes in each bucket. The architecture along with your endurance operations check-list will fall out of the results of that study. Bob . . .




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