---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 05/26/16: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:07 AM - Re: Re: Infinity Aero Grip and Starter Switch (GTH) 2. 08:26 AM - Re: Re: Infinity Aero Grip and Starter Switch (Ross Home) 3. 09:48 AM - Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 05/25/16 (YanisK@aol.com) 4. 11:11 AM - Re: Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 05/25/16 (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 5. 06:00 PM - Dynon SV/ Garmin GTN-650/ Dynon Comm/ Dynon ADS-B (William Hunter) 6. 06:18 PM - Re: Dynon SV/ Garmin GTN-650/ Dynon Comm/ Dynon ADS-B (Russ) 7. 08:22 PM - Re: Dynon SV/ Garmin GTN-650/ Dynon Comm/ Dynon ADS-B (Kelly McMullen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:07:44 AM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Infinity Aero Grip and Starter Switch From: GTH /Le 25/05/2016 19:31, Ross Home a crit : / > Ditto on Infinity. Here is my set-up PTT > Coolie hat aileron/elevator trim Flaps (momentary down, hard up to > dump flaps with one motion) / Hi all, Some years ago a homebuilder installed a flap button on top of his sticks on his MCR Sporster two seater. One day his wife inadvertently hit the button with her map and retracted the flaps during takeoff... He told us the recovery involved quite a bit of the "bag of luck" any pilot starts his flying life with. -- Best regards, Gilles http://contrails.free.fr http://lapierre.skunkworks.free.fr ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:26:43 AM PST US From: "Ross Home" Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Re: Infinity Aero Grip and Starter Switch I only have one Infinity grip. The passenger stick (when installed) has no functions. The PTT for the passenger is located at the far forward portion of the armrest. It would be very difficult for the passenger to inadvertently touch the pilots Infinity. Also, having the flap switch on the Infinity be a momentary switch for extending the flaps makes inadvertent hits by the pilot a non-event. This would also be difficult as this switch is on top far right. Ross From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GTH Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 2:03 AM Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Infinity Aero Grip and Starter Switch Le 25/05/2016 =E0 19:31, Ross Home a =E9crit : Ditto on Infinity. Here is my set-up PTT Coolie hat aileron/elevator trim Flaps (momentary down, hard up to dump flaps with one motion) Hi all, Some years ago a homebuilder installed a flap button on top of his sticks on his MCR Sporster two seater. One day his wife inadvertently hit the button with her map and retracted the flaps during takeoff... He told us the recovery involved quite a bit of the "bag of luck" any pilot starts his flying life with. -- Best regards, Gilles http://contrails.free.fr http://lapierre.skunkworks.free.fr ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:48:19 AM PST US From: YanisK@aol.com Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 05/25/16 Please remove me from the mailing list _yanisk@aol.com_ (mailto:yanisk@aol.com) In a message dated 5/26/2016 12:11:57 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, aeroelectric-list@matronics.com writes: * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete AeroElectric-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. 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Nuckolls, III) 2. 11:06 AM - Re: Re: Infinity Aero Grip and Starter Switch (Ross Home) 3. 11:16 AM - Re: Re: Infinity Aero Grip and Starter Switch (William Hunter) 4. 11:18 AM - Re: Re: Infinity Aero Grip and Starter Switch (William Hunter) 5. 11:33 AM - Re: Re: Infinity Aero Grip and Starter Switch (Ross Home) 6. 12:34 PM - Re: Re: Infinity Aero Grip and Starter Switch (William Hunter) 7. 05:59 PM - Re: Infinity Aero Grip and Starter Switch (donjohnston) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:54:54 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: My Transponder Antenna Does Not Have Balls >These antennae are pretty cheap so if you all think that it might be >best to replace the antenna with one with balls then I will do so. >If not my neutered antenna will stay. It's true that removing the spherical tip shortened the antenna and raised its resonant frequency . . . but I doubt that it makes much difference from a performance perspective. Most manufacturers put those balls on for reducing risk of personal injury . . . kinda like those plastic hoodies they put on ends of re-bar extending out the top of concrete walls on a construction site. In another instance, the spherical tip COULD be intended to reduce coronal discharge at the tip during transponder reply time when voltages at the tip might be several thousand volts . . . and at altitude where the rarified air ionizes easier. But replacing it is probably a personal preference for reducing the severity of the wound should anyone inadvertently come in contact with it. Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:06:30 AM PST US From: "Ross Home" Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Re: Infinity Aero Grip and Starter Switch Ditto on Infinity. Here is my set-up PTT Coolie hat aileron/elevator trim Flaps (momentary down, hard up to dump flaps with one motion) EFIS page flip AP Engage Intercom/radio re-play (the radio automatically records) Ross -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of donjohnston Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 6:18 PM Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Infinity Aero Grip and Starter Switch --> I have an infinity stick as well. And never, ever considered putting the starter switch on the stick. I have assigned every switch on the stick to be only something that I would use while the aircraft is in motion to reduce the number of times I would have to remove my hand from the stick. Here's my list: PTT Com radio swap transponder ident EFIS page flip AP Engage Trim Starter, fuel pump, etc., are typically used once from startup to shutdown. In my book, that makes them impractical for the stick. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=456546#456546 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:16:06 AM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Infinity Aero Grip and Starter Switch From: William Hunter Thanks Don... good stuff. I pretty much have the same switch assignment on my Aero Grip. I hate having a switch installed in the airplane that does not do something... now that I eliminated the starter feature perhaps I could assign that switch to something already installed in the airplane like the taxi light, seat vibratory massage, satcom internet, or the disco ball motor... or... I guess I will have to dream up some new feature to add to the airplane so that the switch can actually do something. THANKS AGAIN!!! Bill Hunter On May 24, 2016 6:27 PM, "donjohnston" wrote: > don@velocity-xl.com> > > I have an infinity stick as well. And never, ever considered putting the > starter switch on the stick. I have assigned every switch on the stick to > be only something that I would use while the aircraft is in motion to > reduce the number of times I would have to remove my hand from the stick. > > Here's my list: > > PTT > Com radio swap > transponder ident > EFIS page flip > AP Engage > Trim > > Starter, fuel pump, etc., are typically used once from startup to > shutdown. In my book, that makes them impractical for the stick. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=456546#456546 > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:18:16 AM PST US Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Re: Infinity Aero Grip and Starter Switch From: William Hunter No disco ball... really... kinda minimalist?!? What is the EFIS page advance feature we (you all) speak of? Bill Hunter On May 25, 2016 11:13 AM, "Ross Home" wrote: > rossmickey@comcast.net> > > Ditto on Infinity. Here is my set-up > > PTT > Coolie hat aileron/elevator trim > Flaps (momentary down, hard up to dump flaps with one motion) > EFIS page flip > AP Engage > Intercom/radio re-play (the radio automatically records) > > Ross > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > donjohnston > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 6:18 PM > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Infinity Aero Grip and Starter Switch > > --> > > I have an infinity stick as well. And never, ever considered putting the > starter switch on the stick. I have assigned every switch on the stick to > be only something that I would use while the aircraft is in motion to > reduce > the number of times I would have to remove my hand from the stick. > > Here's my list: > > PTT > Com radio swap > transponder ident > EFIS page flip > AP Engage > Trim > > Starter, fuel pump, etc., are typically used once from startup to shutdown. > In my book, that makes them impractical for the stick. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=456546#456546 > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:33:01 AM PST US From: "Ross Home" Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Re: Infinity Aero Grip and Starter Switch The Grand Rapids Technology Engine Monitor has different engine analysis displayed on different =9Cpages=9D which are actually what is being seen on the screen. I should have said EIS page flip rather than EFIS page flip. http://www.grtavionics.com/eis4000.html Ross From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Hunter Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:17 AM Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Re: Infinity Aero Grip and Starter Switch No disco ball... really... kinda minimalist?!? What is the EFIS page advance feature we (you all) speak of? Bill Hunter On May 25, 2016 11:13 AM, "Ross Home" > wrote: > Ditto on Infinity. Here is my set-up PTT Coolie hat aileron/elevator trim Flaps (momentary down, hard up to dump flaps with one motion) EFIS page flip AP Engage Intercom/radio re-play (the radio automatically records) Ross -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com ] On Behalf Of donjohnston Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 6:18 PM Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Infinity Aero Grip and Starter Switch --> > I have an infinity stick as well. And never, ever considered putting the starter switch on the stick. I have assigned every switch on the stick to be only something that I would use while the aircraft is in motion to reduce the number of times I would have to remove my hand from the stick. Here's my list: PTT Com radio swap transponder ident EFIS page flip AP Engage Trim Starter, fuel pump, etc., are typically used once from startup to shutdown. In my book, that makes them impractical for the stick. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=456546#456546 - Electric-List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List FORUMS - eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com WIKI - errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:34:22 PM PST US Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Re: Infinity Aero Grip and Starter Switch From: William Hunter Got it... Bill Hunter On May 25, 2016 11:39 AM, "Ross Home" wrote: > The Grand Rapids Technology Engine Monitor has different engine analysis > displayed on different =9Cpages=9D which are actually what is being seen on the > screen. I should have said EIS page flip rather than EFIS page flip. > > > http://www.grtavionics.com/eis4000.html > > > Ross > > > *From:* owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *William > Hunter > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:17 AM > *To:* aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RE: AeroElectric-List: Re: Infinity Aero Grip and Starter > Switch > > > No disco ball... really... kinda minimalist?!? > > What is the EFIS page advance feature we (you all) speak of? > > Bill Hunter > > On May 25, 2016 11:13 AM, "Ross Home" wrote: > > rossmickey@comcast.net> > > Ditto on Infinity. Here is my set-up > > PTT > Coolie hat aileron/elevator trim > Flaps (momentary down, hard up to dump flaps with one motion) > EFIS page flip > AP Engage > Intercom/radio re-play (the radio automatically records) > > Ross > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > donjohnston > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 6:18 PM > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Infinity Aero Grip and Starter Switch > > --> > > I have an infinity stick as well. And never, ever considered putting the > starter switch on the stick. I have assigned every switch on the stick t o > be only something that I would use while the aircraft is in motion to > reduce > the number of times I would have to remove my hand from the stick. > > Here's my list: > > PTT > Com radio swap > transponder ident > EFIS page flip > AP Engage > Trim > > Starter, fuel pump, etc., are typically used once from startup to shutdow n. > In my book, that makes them impractical for the stick. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=456546#456546 > > > ========= > - > Electric-List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List > ========= > FORUMS - > eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > ========= > WIKI - > errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com > ========= > b Site - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributio n > ========= > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:59:31 PM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Infinity Aero Grip and Starter Switch From: "donjohnston" billhuntersemail(at)gmail wrote: > What is the EFIS page advance feature we (you all) speak of? The HX series have a number of "pages". PFD, Engine, Map, etc. There is a "page flip" function where pressing a switch will cause the page to toggle between PFD and Map screen. So while you're flying along, hit the "page" button on the stick and the screen changes to a full screen map. Hit the button again, and it goes back to the PFD. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=456562#456562 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:11:21 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 05/25/16 At 11:44 AM 5/26/2016, you wrote: >Please remove me from the mailing list yanisk@aol.com You can do this yourself at http://tinyurl.com/rp8st where you can modify the status of any matronics.com subscription. Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:00:52 PM PST US From: "William Hunter" Subject: AeroElectric-List: Dynon SV/ Garmin GTN-650/ Dynon Comm/ Dynon ADS-B Kelly...on another thread says> I have the same equipment in my RV-10. Can I talk you into giving me some operational advice on the Dynon SV/ Garmin GTN-650/ Dynon Comm/ Dynon ADS-B? I have done a remodel of my instrument panel and have offloaded a bunch of old boat anchor equipment (GX-60, SL-90, SL-30, SL-40) and now the panel will be equipped with two SV-1000 screens, a SL-15 Audio Panel, a GTN-650, Dynon Comm radio, Dynon transponder, and Dynon ADS-B., and ForeFlight iPad through the Dynon WIFI. If anyone has this same setup, can you please give me some operational advice? What GPS system do you use during normal operations? I know the GTN needs to be used during approaches however the question I guess is do you use it as the primary source all of the time or do you use the Dynon for enroute and VMC operations and the GTN only when you need it? How does the iPad integrate with the Dynon? With Foreflight and SV all I need to do is to plan my flight at home and then when I get to the airplane I zap over the course from ForeFlight to the SV and the course magically appears on the screen. Also when you are "rubber banding" the course on the iPad it gets applied to the SV? On my old panel the GX-60 just sat there like a boat anchor...Now that the GTN is in the picture what is the best way to zap all of this stuff around? Does the ADS-B traffic/weather appear on the iPad? Does the ADS-B traffic/weather appear on the GTN? Same question with the Dynon Com radio. Do you use it as primary or do use the GTN? I guess I am asking if anyone who has blazed this trail if you can please give me some tips/pointer/advice??? .. Cheers!!! Bill Hunter -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 6:24 AM Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Transponder and ADS Antenna Mounting Location Questions For --> I think you are confusing yourself with too much information. What you have is the Dynon(Trig) SV-261 transponder, which is the Out unit on 1090-ES. This should be connected to your existing monopole transponder antenna. Then you have the SV-470 ADS-B Receiver or In unit. It needs the same variety antenna, but not a ground plane, and can be anywhere that is at least 2 ft away from your existing transponder antenna. Do not get confused about the GTN-650. It is a GPS/Nav/Com unit that does NOT receive any ADS-B or other traffic information on its own. It is only able to display information received by your transponder or ADS-B In unit. I have the same equipment in my RV-10. My transponder antenna is a short distance behind the firewall on the belly. My ADS-B receiver antenna is on the belly in the tailcone. I realize with a canard, your convenient locations are different...just get the distance you need. Under the Canard should be fine, if you can get the distance and easy mounting. On 5/22/2016 9:56 PM, William Hunter wrote: > Joe, > > This is really valuable information. Sounds like you know your stuff > so if I could kindly pick a bit more of your brain > > I am running the SV-XPNDR-260 and it is supposed to be the > higher-powered transponder that dynon offers I'm running the dynon > ADDB receiver for traffic. > > The ideal location for convenience of installation would be to install > the monopole antenna directly underneath the Canard. If I installed > it like I am thinking then the monopole antenna would be sticking down > from the Cunard and since the Canard is mounted up high in the nose > cone of the airplane the antenna would not be sticking out below the > bottom of the airplane assuming there's no carbon graphite in that > section of the airplane and assuming there's no paint that has some > kind of chromate based material then my question is would the antenna > be able to still receive the ground-based signals? > > To add to my confusion I will also be running a Garmin gtn - 650 and > it is supposed to be able to receive ADS-B signals. . Should I > purchase an additional monopole antenna for that unit as well or > should I just run with the dynon unit? > > Subject is way out of my league so any help from you or some of the > other sharp guys on this forum would be greatly helpful! > > THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR HELP!!! > > Bill Hunter > > On May 22, 2016 6:30 PM, "user9253" > wrote: > > > > > Assuming that you are installing the SV-XPNDR-261, why not use the > existing transponder antenna? Since the original transponder worked > OK with that egg shaped ground plane, that reinforces my post that > shape and size makes a theoretical difference, but is not critical > in real life. > The SV-ADSB-470 antenna is receive only. It will not affect the > operation of ADAHRS or Magnetometer. Keep the ADSB-470 antenna away > from other transmitting antennas, especially the transponder antenna. > The SV-ADSB-470 receives 978 only, not 1090. If you are out of > range of an ADS-B ground station (maybe in a traffic pattern), you > will not see traffic transmitting ADS-B out on 1090, i.e., other > SkyView transponders. Dynon needs to offer a dual band ADS-B receiver. > > -------- > Joe Gores > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=456477#456477 > > > ========== > - > Electric-List" rel="noreferrer" > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List > ========== > FORUMS - > eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > WIKI - > errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com > ========== > b Site - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:18:04 PM PST US From: Russ Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Dynon SV/ Garmin GTN-650/ Dynon Comm/ Dynon ADS-B Hi Bill. I have allow the exact setup as you except I kept one anchor,mother SL30. I needed a second VOR. Been flying under the whole system for about a year. Russ > On May 26, 2016, at 20:58, William Hunter wro te: > l@gmail.com> > > Kelly...on another thread says> I have the same equipment in my RV-10. > > Can I talk you into giving me some operational advice on the Dynon SV/ Gar min GTN-650/ Dynon Comm/ Dynon ADS-B? > > I have done a remodel of my instrument panel and have offloaded a bunch of old boat anchor equipment (GX-60, SL-90, SL-30, SL-40) and now the panel wi ll be equipped with two SV-1000 screens, a SL-15 Audio Panel, a GTN-650, Dyn on Comm radio, Dynon transponder, and Dynon ADS-B., and ForeFlight iPad thro ugh the Dynon WIFI. > > If anyone has this same setup, can you please give me some operational adv ice? > > What GPS system do you use during normal operations? I know the GTN needs to be used during approaches however the question I guess is do you use it a s the primary source all of the time or do you use the Dynon for enroute and VMC operations and the GTN only when you need it? > > How does the iPad integrate with the Dynon? With Foreflight and SV all I n eed to do is to plan my flight at home and then when I get to the airplane I zap over the course from ForeFlight to the SV and the course magically appe ars on the screen. Also when you are "rubber banding" the course on the iPa d it gets applied to the SV? On my old panel the GX-60 just sat there like a boat anchor...Now that the GTN is in the picture what is the best way to za p all of this stuff around? > > Does the ADS-B traffic/weather appear on the iPad? > > Does the ADS-B traffic/weather appear on the GTN? > > Same question with the Dynon Com radio. Do you use it as primary or do us e the GTN? > > I guess I am asking if anyone who has blazed this trail if you can please g ive me some tips/pointer/advice??? > > .. > > Cheers!!! > > Bill Hunter > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelect ric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 6:24 AM > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Transponder and ADS Antenna Mounting L ocation Questions For > > --> > > I think you are confusing yourself with too much information. What you hav e is the Dynon(Trig) SV-261 transponder, which is the Out unit on 1090-ES. T his should be connected to your existing monopole transponder antenna. Then y ou have the SV-470 ADS-B Receiver or In unit. It needs the same variety ante nna, but not a ground plane, and can be anywhere that is at least 2 ft away f rom your existing transponder antenna. > Do not get confused about the GTN-650. It is a GPS/Nav/Com unit that does N OT receive any ADS-B or other traffic information on its own. It is only abl e to display information received by your transponder or ADS-B In unit. > I have the same equipment in my RV-10. My transponder antenna is a short d istance behind the firewall on the belly. My ADS-B receiver antenna is on th e belly in the tailcone. I realize with a canard, your convenient locations a re different...just get the distance you need. Under the Canard should be fi ne, if you can get the distance and easy mounting. > >> On 5/22/2016 9:56 PM, William Hunter wrote: >> Joe, >> >> This is really valuable information. Sounds like you know your stuff >> so if I could kindly pick a bit more of your brain >> >> I am running the SV-XPNDR-260 and it is supposed to be the >> higher-powered transponder that dynon offers I'm running the dynon >> ADDB receiver for traffic. >> >> The ideal location for convenience of installation would be to install >> the monopole antenna directly underneath the Canard. If I installed >> it like I am thinking then the monopole antenna would be sticking down >> from the Cunard and since the Canard is mounted up high in the nose >> cone of the airplane the antenna would not be sticking out below the >> bottom of the airplane assuming there's no carbon graphite in that >> section of the airplane and assuming there's no paint that has some >> kind of chromate based material then my question is would the antenna >> be able to still receive the ground-based signals? >> >> To add to my confusion I will also be running a Garmin gtn - 650 and >> it is supposed to be able to receive ADS-B signals. . Should I >> purchase an additional monopole antenna for that unit as well or >> should I just run with the dynon unit? >> >> Subject is way out of my league so any help from you or some of the >> other sharp guys on this forum would be greatly helpful! >> >> THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR HELP!!! >> >> Bill Hunter >> >> On May 22, 2016 6:30 PM, "user9253" > > wrote: >> >> > >> >> Assuming that you are installing the SV-XPNDR-261, why not use the >> existing transponder antenna? Since the original transponder worked >> OK with that egg shaped ground plane, that reinforces my post that >> shape and size makes a theoretical difference, but is not critical >> in real life. >> The SV-ADSB-470 antenna is receive only. It will not affect the >> operation of ADAHRS or Magnetometer. Keep the ADSB-470 antenna away >> from other transmitting antennas, especially the transponder antenna. >> The SV-ADSB-470 receives 978 only, not 1090. If you are out of >> range of an ADS-B ground station (maybe in a traffic pattern), you >> will not see traffic transmitting ADS-B out on 1090, i.e., other >> SkyView transponders. Dynon needs to offer a dual band ADS-B receiver .. >> >> -------- >> Joe Gores >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=456477#456477 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ========== >> - >> Electric-List" rel="noreferrer" >> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List >> ========== >> FORUMS - >> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> WIKI - >> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >> ========== >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribu tion >> ========== > > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:22:23 PM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Dynon SV/ Garmin GTN-650/ Dynon Comm/ Dynon ADS-B From: Kelly McMullen See inserted comments, and research the Dynon product info on their website. On 5/26/2016 5:58 PM, William Hunter wrote: > > What GPS system do you use during normal operations? I know the GTN needs to be used during approaches however the question I guess is do you use it as the primary source all of the time or do you use the Dynon for enroute and VMC operations and the GTN only when you need it? FOLLOW THE DYNON ADVICE, USE THE DYNON GPS TO DRIVE THE EFIS, AND GARMIN TO DRIVE THE HSI. > How does the iPad integrate with the Dynon? With Foreflight and SV all I need to do is to plan my flight at home and then when I get to the airplane I zap over the course from ForeFlight to the SV and the course magically appears on the screen. Also when you are "rubber banding" the course on the iPad it gets applied to the SV? On my old panel the GX-60 just sat there like a boat anchor...Now that the GTN is in the picture what is the best way to zap all of this stuff around? DYNON SELLS A DONGLE TO PROVIDE WIFI COMMUNICATION WITH IPAD AND FOREFLIGHT including transfer of flight plan. > Does the ADS-B traffic/weather appear on the iPad? > WITH THE WIFI DONGLE, YES > Does the ADS-B traffic/weather appear on the GTN? > DON'T KNOW. NOT ENOUGH SCREEN SPACE ON THE 650..WHY BOTHER WHEN YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE DYNON > Same question with the Dynon Com radio. Do you use it as primary or do use the GTN? A FRIEND USES HIS DYNON RATHER THAN HIS 430W. I USE SL-30 RATHER THAN GTN-650 > I guess I am asking if anyone who has blazed this trail if you can please give me some tips/pointer/advice??? > > .. > > Cheers!!! > > Bill Hunter > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 6:24 AM > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Transponder and ADS Antenna Mounting Location Questions For > > --> > > I think you are confusing yourself with too much information. What you have is the Dynon(Trig) SV-261 transponder, which is the Out unit on 1090-ES. This should be connected to your existing monopole transponder antenna. Then you have the SV-470 ADS-B Receiver or In unit. It needs the same variety antenna, but not a ground plane, and can be anywhere that is at least 2 ft away from your existing transponder antenna. > Do not get confused about the GTN-650. It is a GPS/Nav/Com unit that does NOT receive any ADS-B or other traffic information on its own. It is only able to display information received by your transponder or ADS-B In unit. > I have the same equipment in my RV-10. My transponder antenna is a short distance behind the firewall on the belly. My ADS-B receiver antenna is on the belly in the tailcone. I realize with a canard, your convenient locations are different...just get the distance you need. Under the Canard should be fine, if you can get the distance and easy mounting. > > On 5/22/2016 9:56 PM, William Hunter wrote: >> Joe, >> >> This is really valuable information. Sounds like you know your stuff >> so if I could kindly pick a bit more of your brain >> >> I am running the SV-XPNDR-260 and it is supposed to be the >> higher-powered transponder that dynon offers I'm running the dynon >> ADDB receiver for traffic. >> >> The ideal location for convenience of installation would be to install >> the monopole antenna directly underneath the Canard. If I installed >> it like I am thinking then the monopole antenna would be sticking down >> from the Cunard and since the Canard is mounted up high in the nose >> cone of the airplane the antenna would not be sticking out below the >> bottom of the airplane assuming there's no carbon graphite in that >> section of the airplane and assuming there's no paint that has some >> kind of chromate based material then my question is would the antenna >> be able to still receive the ground-based signals? >> >> To add to my confusion I will also be running a Garmin gtn - 650 and >> it is supposed to be able to receive ADS-B signals. . Should I >> purchase an additional monopole antenna for that unit as well or >> should I just run with the dynon unit? >> >> Subject is way out of my league so any help from you or some of the >> other sharp guys on this forum would be greatly helpful! >> >> THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR HELP!!! >> >> Bill Hunter >> >> On May 22, 2016 6:30 PM, "user9253" > > wrote: >> >> > >> >> Assuming that you are installing the SV-XPNDR-261, why not use the >> existing transponder antenna? Since the original transponder worked >> OK with that egg shaped ground plane, that reinforces my post that >> shape and size makes a theoretical difference, but is not critical >> in real life. >> The SV-ADSB-470 antenna is receive only. It will not affect the >> operation of ADAHRS or Magnetometer. Keep the ADSB-470 antenna away >> from other transmitting antennas, especially the transponder antenna. >> The SV-ADSB-470 receives 978 only, not 1090. If you are out of >> range of an ADS-B ground station (maybe in a traffic pattern), you >> will not see traffic transmitting ADS-B out on 1090, i.e., other >> SkyView transponders. Dynon needs to offer a dual band ADS-B receiver. >> >> -------- >> Joe Gores >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=456477#456477 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ========== >> - >> Electric-List" rel="noreferrer" >> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List >> ========== >> FORUMS - >> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> WIKI - >> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >> ========== >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== >> >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message aeroelectric-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.