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Wed 02/15/17


Total Messages Posted: 8



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     1. 02:05 AM - Re: Fw: CNBTR connector (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     2. 02:05 AM - Re: Fw: CNBTR connector (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     3. 02:06 AM - Re: Re: Red/Blue PIDG tool (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     4. 06:48 AM - Re: ADS-B Misinformation ()
     5. 07:00 AM - Re: Fw: CNBTR connector (DANIEL PELLETIER)
     6. 07:57 AM - Re: ADS-B Misinformation (Gerry Van Dyk)
     7. 09:12 AM - Re: Flap control suggestions (GTH)
     8. 07:37 PM - Re: Fw: CNBTR connector (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:05:24 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Fwd: CNBTR connector
    At 05:36 PM 2/14/2017, you wrote: ><pelletie1959@me.com> > > > > > > Somebody knows this kind on connector and how to open the female > one, to be able to solder my wires. > > >https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DIY1Z12/ref=s9_acsd_hps_bw_c_x_1_w > > > > > Daniel Pelletier I've not encountered that particular product before. It APPEARS to be a plastic clone of the Mil-C-5015 connectors with roots dating back to WWII. If so, check as follows: Emacs! See if there is a threaded joint under the shaded area. Unscrew the back-shell from the connector body. The Threaded ring that engages the mating connector simply floats on the housing held in place by the back-shell. mating Bob . . .


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    Time: 02:05:28 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Fwd: CNBTR connector
    At 05:36 PM 2/14/2017, you wrote: ><pelletie1959@me.com> > > > > > > Somebody knows this kind on connector and how to open the female > one, to be able to solder my wires. > > >https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DIY1Z12/ref=s9_acsd_hps_bw_c_x_1_w > > > > > Daniel Pelletier I've not encountered that particular product before. It APPEARS to be a plastic clone of the Mil-C-5015 connectors with roots dating back to WWII. If so, check as follows: Emacs! See if there is a threaded joint under the shaded area. Unscrew the back-shell from the connector body. The Threaded ring that engages the mating connector simply floats on the housing held in place by the back-shell. mating -I STAND CORRECTED - Found a whole line of products from CNBTR that includes some solder-cup, emulations (if not exact clones) of a Mil-spec connector line. I've ordered one in to take a peek http://tinyurl.com/jdgnmtt These are an interesting product with an attractive price. I'm looking forward to a closer look. Bob . . .


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    Time: 02:06:18 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Red/Blue PIDG tool
    > > >Now I remember reading your document about PIDG crimpers a few years >ago. Great write up! Is that a typo where it says red is 18-22 gage? >Should it be 16-22? > >-------- >John Bright, RV-6A, at Finish Kit >Continental Titan IOX-360, 8.5:1, vertical sump, SDSEFI EM-5, >injectors in heads. >Aeroelectric Z-12. Yes. Good eye. I've fixed it. Bob . . .


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    Time: 06:48:17 AM PST US
    From: <jim@PoogieBearRanch.com>
    Subject: ADS-B Misinformation
    >>>> If you remain within the US borders, and never fly above >>>> 18,000 feet, 978UAT is "good enough". >> The US borders mention is a bit of red herring. You can fly >> your UAT *outside* US borders as well. Canada has no >> requirement for ADS-B. There is an optional use area in an >> obscure corner of the country, above 27,000'. Most of us >> aren't going there, and of course, could opt out of the >> optional use even if we did. >> No other western hemisphere country currently has an >> ADS-B requirement... so just where outside of US borders >> are we concerned?! I'm not personally concerned about it at all, as I don't plan to fly to Canada, Mexico, or anywhere else outside the US. But I DO have friends who fly their planes to Europe, and others who fly to South America, and it may well affect them. (Note the use of the word "may" in that sentence.) I believe I mentioned in one of my posts that Mexico is discussing legislation that follows the US model, quite possibly even to the point of including approval for 978 UAT, but that is purely speculative, as nothing has been enacted yet, and it appears that their relationship with the US is a bit "strained" at the moment... Previously, their rules tended to parallel US rules, but nowadays, who knows? Until their legislation is finalized, we're all just speculating. Canada generally follows ICAO (as do the rest of the countries further south), and ICAO has been pretty clear that they are going to require 1090ES, and that 978 UAT will NOT be considered or approved. That doesn't mean that you need 1090ES to go to Canada today, nor on January 1st, 2020. But if/when Canada does join the ADS-B mandate, it is probably going to require 1090ES, following the ICAO rules. (Again, note the use of the word "probably" in that sentence.) So, yes, if you're trying to decide HOW to meet the 2020 ADS-B OUT mandate, and you plan to fly OUTSIDE the US, it might be a good idea to at least CONSIDER equipping with 1090ES, rather than 978 UAT. AOPA and others have published data showing that about 75-80% of current ADS-B aircraft are 1090ES. I suspect a lot of them are going that route not because they will fly above 18000 ft, nor fly outside the US, but because they would rather ditch their ancient Transponder now, as part of the upgrade to ADS-B, rather than supplement it with a 978 UAT device. I know that's my current thinking, since my transponder seems to have been original equipment back in 1965... Or, you can just follow the time-honored aviation principle of "wait until not having ADS-B OUT prevents me from doing something I want to do, and worry about it then..." But judging by the backlog at my local avionics shops, people who do this may be in for a considerable wait before they can get it done... Free country, so make your choice and live with it. Since I live just inside a Mode-C veil, I don't have much of a choice, other than deciding between 1090ES and 978UAT. Unless I want to just park my plane, and that's not a viable option for me. Jim Parker


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    Time: 07:00:03 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fwd: CNBTR connector
    From: DANIEL PELLETIER <pelletie1959@me.com>
    Thank you Bob, You're right for the threaded joint under the shaded area. To unscrew the b ack-shell from the connector body, we must let the male part in place in the female part. You place the male part in a vise and use a vise grip to unscr ew the back-shell. A particularity you unscrew counter clockwise. Daniel > Le 15 f=C3=A9vr. 2017 =C3- 05:02, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <nuckolls.bob@ aeroelectric.com> a =C3=A9crit : > > At 05:36 PM 2/14/2017, you wrote: e.com> >> >> >> > >> > Somebody knows this kind on connector and how to open the female one, t o be able to solder my wires. >> >> >> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DIY1Z12/ref=s9_acsd_hps_bw_c_x_1_w >> >> > >> > Daniel Pelletier > > I've not encountered that particular product > before. It APPEARS to be a plastic clone of > the Mil-C-5015 connectors with roots dating > back to WWII. If so, check as follows: > > <26db80.jpg> > > See if there is a threaded joint under > the shaded area. Unscrew the back-shell > from the connector body. The Threaded > ring that engages the mating connector > simply floats on the housing held in > place by the back-shell. > mating > > -I STAND CORRECTED - > > Found a whole line of products from CNBTR that > includes some solder-cup, emulations (if not > exact clones) of a Mil-spec connector line. > > I've ordered one in to take a peek > > http://tinyurl.com/jdgnmtt > > These are an interesting product with an > attractive price. I'm looking forward > to a closer look. > > > > Bob . . .


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    Time: 07:57:59 AM PST US
    From: Gerry Van Dyk <gerry.vandyk@eastlink.ca>
    Subject: ADS-B Misinformation
    Nav Canada has been using ADS-B for years, but ONLY on the overseas routes over the north Atlantic and Hudson's Bay. To the best of my knowledge there is no discussion about implementing any form of ADS-B for Canadian domestic operations. Mode C is all that's required in any controlled airspace in Canada. http://www.navcanada.ca/en/products-and-services/pages/on-board-operational-initiatives-ads-b.aspx Gerry van Dyk Wetaskiwin, Alberta On 02/15/17 07:52 AM, jim@PoogieBearRanch.com wrote: > > Canada generally follows ICAO (as do the rest of the countries further > south), and ICAO has been pretty clear that they are going to require > 1090ES, and that 978 UAT will NOT be considered or approved. That > doesn't mean that you need 1090ES to go to Canada today, nor on January > 1st, 2020. But if/when Canada does join the ADS-B mandate, it is > probably going to require 1090ES, following the ICAO rules. (Again, note > the use of the word "probably" in that sentence.) > >


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    Time: 09:12:54 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Flap control suggestions
    From: GTH <gilles.thesee@free.fr>
    /Le 11/02/2017 21:08, Bill Watson a crit : / > // > /I've been using TCW's Intellignet Flap Controller > <http://www.tcwtech.com/Installation%20instructions%20model%20IFC-10_rev1.1.pdf> > and have been happy with it. I use it with a switch where the up > position takes it all the way to reflex and each momentary touch of > the downs switch takes it from reflex to zero to first position down > to full down. > / Thank you everyone for your suggestions. I've passed them on to my partners. -- Best regards, Gilles http://contrails.free.fr http://lapierre.skunkworks.free.fr


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    Time: 07:37:53 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Fwd: CNBTR connector
    At 08:58 AM 2/15/2017, you wrote: >Thank you Bob, > >You're right for the threaded joint under the shaded area. To >unscrew the back-shell from the connector body, we must let the male >part in place in the female part. You place the male part in a vise >and use a vise grip to unscrew the back-shell. A particularity you >unscrew counter clockwise. Yeah, these appear to be a near-if-not-exact clone of a legacy mil-spec connector. I'll know more about them when the sample I ordered gets here. The prices are certainly right . . . Bob . . .




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