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1. 01:53 AM - Re: Fw: CNBTR connector (Jan de Jong)
2. 03:53 AM - Re: Red/Blue PIDG tool (Rich Ulmen)
3. 09:16 AM - Re: Fw: CNBTR connector (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
4. 01:25 PM - Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles (William Hunter)
5. 02:05 PM - Re: Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles (Mike Nellis)
6. 02:39 PM - Re: Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles (user9253)
7. 02:45 PM - Re: Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
8. 03:01 PM - Re: Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
9. 03:27 PM - Re: Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles (morgana.ram)
10. 03:28 PM - Re: Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
11. 03:58 PM - Re: Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles (Mark Wheeler)
12. 04:00 PM - Re: Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles (Stein Bruch)
13. 11:26 PM - Re: Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles (William Hunter)
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: CNBTR connector |
Here the whole range, up to 65 pins:
https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20170216014307&SearchText=y2m+connector
Interested in your conclusions..
Jan de Jong
On 2/16/2017 4:34 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
> At 08:58 AM 2/15/2017, you wrote:
>> Thank you Bob,
>>
>> You're right for the threaded joint under the shaded area. To
>> unscrew the back-shell from the connector body, we must let the male
>> part in place in the female part. You place the male part in a vise
>> and use a vise grip to unscrew the back-shell. A particularity you
>> unscrew counter clockwise.
>
> Yeah, these appear to be a near-if-not-exact clone
> of a legacy mil-spec connector. I'll know more about
> them when the sample I ordered gets here. The
> prices are certainly right . . .
>
>
> Bob . . .
>
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| Subject: | Re: Red/Blue PIDG tool |
I grabbed one for less than $60! Thanks for the heads up Bob!
Sent from my iPad
> On Feb 14, 2017, at 7:05 AM, Alec Myers <alec@alecmyers.com> wrote:
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> Sigh. There goes the beer budget for another month.
>
> On Feb 13, 2017, at 20:59, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
wrote:
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>
> Just ran across an offering of the venerable
> AMP 59250 PIDG crimper on ebay
>
> http://tinyurl.com/grw4bdg
>
> I've still got the first one I ever owned. Bought
> it while I worked at Cessna the first time. I've
> purchased two more since. The price of this
> offer on eBay is VERY reasonable for this tool.
>
>
> Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: CNBTR connector |
At 03:49 AM 2/16/2017, you wrote:
>Here the whole range, up to 65 pins:
>
><https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20170216014307&SearchText=y2m+connector>https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20170216014307&SearchText=y2m+connector
>
>Interested in your conclusions..
thanks! at first blush, these seem to be a close
cousin to M311X series connectors (solder cup)
otherwise identical and mates with M312X series
(crimp pins).
It would be really cool if these in fact do
mate with the M31XX devices.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles |
Hi All,
The March 2017 issue of Kit Planes has an article called "Maintenance
Matters" and in that article there is a picture of some wires being secured
with tie wraps (zip ties). The author indicates that using tie wraps to
secure wire bundles is "poor practice".
What would be a good practice to secure wire bundles to both themselves and
to a structure or other component of the airplane /engine?
THANKS FOR THE ADVICE!!!
Bill Hunter
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| Subject: | Re: Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles |
Waxed lacing cord.
https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productselection.asp?Product=4041&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=4041&gclid=CK2XsozPldICFQQvaQodI14Nfg
On Feb 16, 2017 3:27 PM, "William Hunter" <billhuntersemail@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> The March 2017 issue of Kit Planes has an article called "Maintenance
> Matters" and in that article there is a picture of some wires being secured
> with tie wraps (zip ties). The author indicates that using tie wraps to
> secure wire bundles is "poor practice".
>
> What would be a good practice to secure wire bundles to both themselves
> and to a structure or other component of the airplane /engine?
>
> THANKS FOR THE ADVICE!!!
>
> Bill Hunter
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles |
Cushion clamps. High temperature ones are available for the engine compartment.
For engine mounts, use two clamps bolted together, one on the tube and one
for wires.
--------
Joe Gores
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=466296#466296
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| Subject: | Re: Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles |
At 03:18 PM 2/16/2017, you wrote:
>Hi All,=C2
>
>The March 2017 issue of Kit Planes has an
>article called "Maintenance Matters" and in that
>article there is a picture of some wires being
>secured with tie wraps (zip ties). The author
>indicates that using tie wraps to secure wire bundles is "poor practice".
=C2
>
>What would be a good practice to secure wire
>bundles to both themselves and to a structure or
>other component of the airplane /engine?=C2
>
>THANKS FOR THE ADVICE!!!=C2
Check out http://tinyurl.com/j5jtccn
There ARE some tie-wraps suited to aircraft (and other
environmentally unfriendly applications) but they
need to be carefully procured and you wont find them
on eBay or Harbor Freight.
Here's a pretty good source for a suitable version
http://tinyurl.com/hyey8th
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles |
At 04:02 PM 2/16/2017, you wrote:
>Waxed =C2 lacing cord.=C2
>
><https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productselection.asp?Product=4041&utm_
source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=4041&gclid=CK2XsozPldICFQQ
vaQodI14Nfg>https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productselection.asp?Product
=4041&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=4041&gclid=CK2
XsozPldICFQQvaQodI14Nfg
This is good stuff too . . . and it IS waxed . . .
a little easier to use.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles |
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| Subject: | Re: Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles |
>There ARE some tie-wraps suited to aircraft (and other
>environmentally unfriendly applications) but they
>need to be carefully procured and you wont find them
>on eBay or Harbor Freight.
-CORRECTION- you might find them on eBay
but more likely to get REAL UV resistant,
outdoor rated ties from somebody in that
business. Heres one example:
http://tinyurl.com/zj2mb87
Tie wraps CAN be just fine in airplanes.
We used them at Beech. But just 'cause the
box SAYS UV resistant . . . well . . .
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles |
Why both?
> On Feb 16, 2017, at 3:14 PM, morgana.ram <morgana.ram@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> if you decide to use lacing consider high quality silicone tape along
with it. you can put a small piece around the wire bundle and the tube
then use the lacing to secure it.
>
>
>
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Express 3, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
> Date: 2/16/17 4:59 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles
>
> At 04:02 PM 2/16/2017, you wrote:
>> Waxed =C3=82 lacing cord.=C3=82
>>
>>
https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productselection.asp?Product=4041&utm_
source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=4041&gclid=CK2XsozPldICF
QQvaQodI14Nfg
<https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productselection.asp?Product=4041&utm
_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=4041&gclid=CK2XsozPldIC
FQQvaQodI14Nfg>
> This is good stuff too . . . and it IS waxed . . .
> a little easier to use.
>
>
> Bob . . .
>
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| Subject: | Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles |
We sell that as well, but $5 less per roll=85.
Cheers,
Stein
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Robert L.
Nuckolls, III
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles
At 04:02 PM 2/16/2017, you wrote:
Waxed =C2 lacing cord.=C2
https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productselection.asp?Product=4041
<https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productselection.asp?Product=4041&ut
m_sou
rce=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=4041&gclid=CK2XsozPldICFQQ
vaQodI14Nfg
>
&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=4041&gclid=CK2Xsoz
PldICFQQvaQ
odI14Nfg
This is good stuff too . . . and it IS waxed . . .
a little easier to use.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles |
Hi All.
I knew I could count on you (all)=85THANKS for the info!!!
So why are tie wraps so=85like=85 =93bad practice=94? If I heard that
anything was
=93bad=94 back in high school that is exactly the direction where I
would have
gone=85tie wraps still seem like a good idea to me.
I can see that =93Adel clamps=94 are far superior in design=85and
weight=85and the
stainless steel part can be fire resistant (well=85except for the
rubber
padding material). My guess is that the rubber would burn more hotter
than
nylon=85because rubber makes nice fuel for rocket motors:
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/5226424/ns/technology_and_science-space/t/histo
ric
-rocket-powered-rubber-fuel/#.WKahpvkrJRY
So why are the ancient technology waxed fabric lace ribbon so great and
=93good practice=94?!?!?
My daughters would be most happy to use little fabric ribbons to do the
hair
on their Barbie dolls=85and I can see the benefit of the
=93anti-fungal=94
design=85however=85the temperature range of -67=B0F to + 250=B0F
seems=85well=85kinda
lame (code for =93bad practice=94) in airplane equipment=85
I=85REALLY=85like the X-Treme Tape TPE-XR1510ZLB Silicone Rubber Self
Fusing
tape=85seems like the ultimate new-fangled and high tech
solution=85and=85the
=93will not melt up to 260=B0C (500=B0F)=94=85and the =93Remains
flexible to -50=B0C
(-60=B0F)=94=85and the =93Tensile strength of 700+PSI=94=85and the
=93Insulates to 400
volts/mil=94 sounds like silicon is a REALLY good solution=85to
me=85almost even
=93better than best practice=94=85just say-in
So anyhoo=85would the DAR be happy with the new-fangled silicon
tape?!?!?
Seriously=85I really do not care about the DAR=85I simply what the
=93best
practice=94 for me and my airplane=85so is the new-fangled silicon a
good deal?
Additionally=85do I really need to cut away ALL of the tie wraps I just
lovingly tied to my wire bundles!?!?!
THANKS AGAIN!!!
..
Cheers!!!
Bill Hunter
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stein
Bruch
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 3:54 PM
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles
We sell that as well, but $5 less per roll=85.
Cheers,
Stein
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
<mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com>
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Robert L.
Nuckolls, III
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 4:59 PM
<mailto:aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles
At 04:02 PM 2/16/2017, you wrote:
Waxed =C2 lacing cord.=C2
https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productselection.asp?Product=4041
<https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productselection.asp?Product=4041&ut
m_sou
rce=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=4041&gclid=CK2XsozPldICFQQ
vaQodI14Nfg
>
&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=4041&gclid=CK2Xsoz
PldICFQQvaQ
odI14Nfg
This is good stuff too . . . and it IS waxed . . .
a little easier to use.
Bob . . .
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