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1. 07:31 AM - Re: Re: Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
2. 08:58 AM - Re: Re: Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles (John Tipton)
3. 09:07 AM - Re: Re: Solder Station (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
4. 09:27 AM - Re: Re: Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
5. 09:50 AM - Re: Solder Station (johnbright)
6. 10:21 AM - Re: Re: Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles (John Tipton)
7. 04:48 PM - Re: Re: Solder Station (Alec Myers)
8. 05:46 PM - Re: Re: Solder Station (Alec Myers)
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| Subject: | Re: Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles |
>I don't think the UV issue is terribly important (how much direct
>sunlight does the back of an instrument panel, or an engine
>compartment actually see anyway?),
Agreed . . . plastics suitable to
our task are selected for their resistance
to environmental effects and age. "UV
resistance" is simply one data point indicating
that the manufacturer has taken the time to
produce a robust product.
I've had tie-wraps of unknown pedigree lay on
the self in dark, room temperature repose for
years become brittle with time alone.
Putting the least tension on them during installation
snaps the buckle off.
There are hundreds of sources for perfectly acceptable
tie wraps. We used them by the truck-load at Beech . . .
I don't recall seeing a craftsman use string ties during
my last years at Beech.
I'm sure the other guys in Wichita used them as well.
The take-away from this thread is KNOW where the
tie-wraps come from . . . a requirement impossible to
track from H.F. and sometimes difficult on eBay.
Caveat emptor . . .
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles |
So what are the 'specs' for a good manufactured tie wrap, here's some (from e
Bay) - Yes or no
John
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Quality-Weather-Resistant-UV-Nylon-Cable-Ties-Supe
r-Strong-Wraps-245mm-x-4-8mm-/142017913580?var=&hash=item2110ed62ec:m:m3
vCIrCBOIiIWvnYKTcQGbQ
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> On 19 Feb 2017, at 03:28 pm, "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroe
lectric.com> wrote:
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>> I don't think the UV issue is terribly important (how much direct sunlig
ht does the back of an instrument panel, or an engine compartment actually s
ee anyway?),
>
> Agreed . . . plastics suitable to
> our task are selected for their resistance
> to environmental effects and age. "UV
> resistance" is simply one data point indicating
> that the manufacturer has taken the time to
> produce a robust product.
>
> I've had tie-wraps of unknown pedigree lay on
> the self in dark, room temperature repose for
> years become brittle with time alone.
> Putting the least tension on them during installation
> snaps the buckle off.
>
> There are hundreds of sources for perfectly acceptable
> tie wraps. We used them by the truck-load at Beech . . .
> I don't recall seeing a craftsman use string ties during
> my last years at Beech.
>
> I'm sure the other guys in Wichita used them as well.
> The take-away from this thread is KNOW where the
> tie-wraps come from . . . a requirement impossible to
> track from H.F. and sometimes difficult on eBay.
>
> Caveat emptor . . .
>
> Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Solder Station |
At 08:34 PM 2/18/2017, you wrote:
><john_s_bright@yahoo.com>
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>Metcal... what model number to look for on eBay... cartridge or tip
>hand piece?
There's a new kid on the block . . .
http://tinyurl.com/jfmgep8
My electronics bench is still Metcal but
I've got two Hakko stations on the benches
in the beat-n-bash shop. They are excellent
performers and offer a wide selection of tips.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles |
At 10:55 AM 2/19/2017, you wrote:
>So what are the 'specs' for a good manufactured tie wrap, here's
>some (from eBay) - Yes or no
>
>John
>
><http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Quality-Weather-Resistant-UV-Nylon-Cable-Ties-Super-Strong-Wraps-245mm-x-4-8mm-/142017913580?var=&hash=item2110ed62ec:m:m3vCIrCBOIiIWvnYKTcQGbQ>http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Quality-Weather-Resistant-UV-Nylon-Cable-Ties-Super-Strong-Wraps-245mm-x-4-8mm-/142017913580?var=&hash=item2110ed62ec:m:m3vCIrCBOIiIWvnYKTcQGbQ
>
>Sent from my iPad
Your first good vib comes from this supplier's
eBay rating and experience. 100% satisfaction
with 43000+ transactions.
The description speaks to 6/6 nylon as well
as enhancements specific to the goal of improving
performance. Bundlers of bulk tie wraps might
not even know of such details. If the offer
speaks to specific brands, so much the better.
This ad has the look and smell of a righteous
offer. I'd buy them even when postage to the
u.s. is 1.5x the value of the product. 200 wraps
for $17.00 total makes them about 9 cents each.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Solder Station |
Thanks Bob, I went ahead and bought the Hakko FX888D-23BY your link pointed to.
Just under $100.
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John Bright, RV-6A, at Finish Kit
Continental Titan IOX-360, 8.5:1, vertical sump, SDSEFI EM-5, injectors in heads.
Aeroelectric Z-12.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=466434#466434
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| Subject: | Re: Tie Wraps For Wire Bundles |
And believe you me: that postage to US is cheap, you should be over this sid
e of the pond ordering from US to UK, unbelievable the cost:
John
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> On 19 Feb 2017, at 05:21 pm, "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroe
lectric.com> wrote:
>
> At 10:55 AM 2/19/2017, you wrote:
>> So what are the 'specs' for a good manufactured tie wrap, here's some (fr
om eBay) - Yes or no
>>
>> John
>>
>> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Quality-Weather-Resistant-UV-Nylon-Cable-Ties-S
uper-Strong-Wraps-245mm-x-4-8mm-/142017913580?var=&hash=item2110ed62ec:m
:m3vCIrCBOIiIWvnYKTcQGbQ
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>
> Your first good vib comes from this supplier's
> eBay rating and experience. 100% satisfaction
> with 43000+ transactions.
>
> The description speaks to 6/6 nylon as well
> as enhancements specific to the goal of improving
> performance. Bundlers of bulk tie wraps might
> not even know of such details. If the offer
> speaks to specific brands, so much the better.
>
> This ad has the look and smell of a righteous
> offer. I'd buy them even when postage to the
> u.s. is 1.5x the value of the product. 200 wraps
> for $17.00 total makes them about 9 cents each.
>
>
>
> Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Solder Station |
Very hard to beat the sheer joy of soldering with the Metcal, and the precision
of the Curie-point temperature control system. It's the soldering equivalent
of driving a Ferrari or Lamborghini. But boy do you pay for it.
On Feb 19, 2017, at 12:47, johnbright <john_s_bright@yahoo.com> wrote:
Thanks Bob, I went ahead and bought the Hakko FX888D-23BY your link pointed to.
Just under $100.
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John Bright, RV-6A, at Finish Kit
Continental Titan IOX-360, 8.5:1, vertical sump, SDSEFI EM-5, injectors in heads.
Aeroelectric Z-12.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=466434#466434
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| Subject: | Re: Solder Station |
My bad - it's not the Curie point. anyone know the physical effect that Metcal
irons use?
> On Feb 19, 2017, at 7:45 PM, Alec Myers <alec@alecmyers.com> wrote:
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> Very hard to beat the sheer joy of soldering with the Metcal, and the precision
of the Curie-point temperature control system. It's the soldering equivalent
of driving a Ferrari or Lamborghini. But boy do you pay for it.
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> On Feb 19, 2017, at 12:47, johnbright <john_s_bright@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
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> Thanks Bob, I went ahead and bought the Hakko FX888D-23BY your link pointed to.
Just under $100.
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> John Bright, RV-6A, at Finish Kit
> Continental Titan IOX-360, 8.5:1, vertical sump, SDSEFI EM-5, injectors in heads.
> Aeroelectric Z-12.
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