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1. 05:15 AM - Re: 3PDT switch swap for relay? (Airdog77)
2. 05:15 AM - Re: 3PDT switch swap for relay? (Airdog77)
3. 07:44 AM - Garmin magnetometer installation considerations (Rod Smith)
4. 11:33 AM - Re: Fw: Re: King KX145 pin out, pin 10 (rayj)
5. 11:48 AM - Re: About those 'Copper Tops' (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
6. 11:48 AM - Re: Garmin magnetometer installation considerations (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
7. 11:59 AM - Re: Fw: Re: King KX145 pin out, pin 10 (rayj)
8. 12:28 PM - Re: Garmin magnetometer installation considerations (Charlie England)
9. 12:37 PM - Re: Garmin magnetometer installation considerations (Stein Bruch)
10. 01:36 PM - Who's Got the Time? (Owen Baker)
11. 01:43 PM - Re: Garmin magnetometer installation considerations (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
12. 01:59 PM - AEC9005 and AEC9009 etched circuit boards (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
13. 08:00 PM - Re: Who's Got the Time? (Ron Burnett)
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Subject: | Re: 3PDT switch swap for relay? |
>From what I understand it's SUPPOSED to provide a good reading over water, but
hasn't been specifically tested yet for that functionality. Some of the canard
folks were asking the same question.
In short, specs say yes, but hasn't been tested on an actual flying canard that
I know of.
Joe, thanks a million for your diagrams and great advice! All of it is super helpful!
Warm Regards,
Wade
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Airdog
Wade Parton
Building Long-EZ 916WP
www.longezpush.com
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Subject: | Re: 3PDT switch swap for relay? |
>From what I understand it's SUPPOSED to provide a good reading over water, but
hasn't been specifically tested yet for that functionality. Some of the canard
folks were asking the same question.
In short, specs say yes, but hasn't been tested on an actual flying canard that
I know of.
Joe, thanks a million for your diagrams and great advice! All of it is super helpful!
Warm Regards,
Wade
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Airdog
Wade Parton
Building Long-EZ 916WP
www.longezpush.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=467333#467333
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Subject: | Garmin magnetometer installation considerations |
I'm ready to run wiring in my Bearhawk wings. The only place that remotely meets
Garmin's requirements for magnetometer mounting is in the wing tip. The installation
manual says that if mounted in a metal wing, there should not be local
grounding, all wiring should be twisted pairs. I assume I can use a battery
drill to make twisted pairs. How tightly should the wires be twisted (turns/inch
etc). The only logical place to run the wiring for the magnetometer is in the
same conduit with the rest of the wiring. Does this present a problem?
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Subject: | Re: Fwd: Re: King KX145 pin out, pin 10 |
The manual I have is the "Maintenance/Overhaul Manual 5110". It
completely fills a 2" ring binder.
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN
The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty,
understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system.
And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness,
egotism and self-interest are the traits of success. And while men
admire the quality of the first they love the produce of the second.
-John Steinbeck, novelist, Nobel laureate (1902-1968)
On 03/14/2017 01:20 AM, rayj wrote:
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> Bob,
>
> I have a copy of the manual I scanned in several years ago. I scanned
> at a high resolution. I believe it fills 5+ DVDs. I sent a copy to Bob
> N. He may have created a smaller copy of it. I would be willing to sell
> the copy I have, if you're interested in having a paper copy. I also
> have a KX-145 and vor head, if you're interested in having one for spare
> parts.
>
> Raymond Julian
> Kettle River, MN
>
> The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty,
> understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system.
> And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness,
> egotism and self-interest are the traits of success. And while men
> admire the quality of the first they love the produce of the second.
> -John Steinbeck, novelist, Nobel laureate (1902-1968)
>
> On 03/13/2017 10:16 PM, stickid wrote:
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>> I am looking for a manual for the KX-145 and wondering if you would be
>> able to send me a scanned copy please.
>> Thanks
>> Bob R
>> Winnipeg Canada
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=467277#467277
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Subject: | Re: About those 'Copper Tops' |
At 11:10 PM 3/14/2017, you wrote:
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>Apropos of this, I have a maybe-novel idea about how to test a bunch
>of competing battery brands, easily. I don't know if I made this up,
>or read about it somewhere but...
>
>Connect them in series, and discharge the battery of cells through a
>dummy load. That way, at any given time, they've all passed the same
>number of electrons/coulombs of charge. Periodically disconnect the
>load and measure each cell's no-load terminal voltage. The cells
>that die first should be obvious.
This is a useful comparative test for evaluating
the relative condition of an array of cells . . .
with limitations. It doesn't yield 'baseline' data,
i.e. a quantitative measurement of contained
energy. When I did the first pass at this study
I had a nifty $100, 12-Bit DAS purchased
previously for a Beech flight test program.
Pairing this device with an array of AA cell
holders loaded with 5 ohm resistors allowed me
to run batches of cells down at the same time.
The data yielded was analyzed in software I can't
run under Win7 . . . software that coughed up a
scrip file that plotted results to a graph in
AutoCAD.
Emacs!
The Phase II test is being accomplished one cell
at a time using a West Mountain Radio battery
tester and its companion software. The earlier
tests were conducted under a constant resistance
load; Phase II is constant current. In both instances,
the analysis yielded a Watt-Hours value for energy
yielded by each cell.
The disadvantage is lack of batch-processing
capability. The advantage is that software supplied
by WMR runs in my more modern computers and also
yields quantitative data.
Still got a soft spot in my heart for that $low$
DAS. It ran under Win95 off the parallel port
of the laptop. It would gather 1000 samples per
second of 12-bit data. In about two weeks of
hammer-n-sawing at the bench, I had fabricated
and installed a pitch-trim study on the Beechjet
that yielded some really nice data . . . along
with foundation for fixing a problem that was
costing the company $millions$.
Those were exciting times . . .
Bob . . .
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Subject: | Re: Garmin magnetometer installation considerations |
At 09:38 AM 3/15/2017, you wrote:
>I'm ready to run wiring in my Bearhawk wings. The only place that
>remotely meets Garmin's requirements for magnetometer mounting is in
>the wing tip. The installation manual says that if mounted in a
>metal wing, there should not be local grounding, all wiring should
>be twisted pairs. I assume I can use a battery drill to make twisted
>pairs. How tightly should the wires be twisted (turns/inch etc). The
>only logical place to run the wiring for the magnetometer is in the
>same conduit with the rest of the wiring. Does this present a problem?
How many pairs
Bob . . .
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Subject: | Re: Fwd: Re: King KX145 pin out, pin 10 |
Bob,
Just noticed your subject line.
Looking at the diagram I have I believe #10 is the center of the nav
antenna coax. There are 2 connectors. This is on the longer of the 2,
***NOT*** the one that connects to the KI-205.
If you need more info, let me know.
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN
The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty,
understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system.
And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness,
egotism and self-interest are the traits of success. And while men
admire the quality of the first they love the produce of the second.
-John Steinbeck, novelist, Nobel laureate (1902-1968)
On 03/13/2017 10:16 PM, stickid wrote:
>
> I am looking for a manual for the KX-145 and wondering if you would be able to
send me a scanned copy please.
> Thanks
> Bob R
> Winnipeg Canada
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=467277#467277
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Garmin magnetometer installation considerations |
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Subject: | Garmin magnetometer installation considerations |
Garmin doesn't recommend open non-shielded wire for the GMU (twisted or
not). You'll note from the install manual is specifically calls out a 2
conductor shielded wire and a 3 conductor shielded wire (one of each) run to
the GMU. This is the simplest and cleanest way to do the install as well.the
wires are already twisted, already shielded and can be run together. Look
at page 24-5 in the install manual (rev. AA) for details. The power, Ground
and RS-232 share the three conductor wire with the shield getting sunk to
the signal ground on the GMU. I'd recommend just following that install
guide..after hundreds of these we've wired this way there hasn't been any
issues yet.
Cheers,
Stein
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert L.
Nuckolls, III
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Garmin magnetometer installation
considerations
At 09:38 AM 3/15/2017, you wrote:
I'm ready to run wiring in my Bearhawk wings. The only place that remotely
meets Garmin's requirements for magnetometer mounting is in the wing tip.
The installation manual says that if mounted in a metal wing, there should
not be local grounding, all wiring should be twisted pairs. I assume I can
use a battery drill to make twisted pairs. How tightly should the wires be
twisted (turns/inch etc). The only logical place to run the wiring for the
magnetometer is in the same conduit with the rest of the wiring. Does this
present a problem?
How many pairs
Bob . . .
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Subject: | Who's Got the Time? |
3/15/2017
Hello Fellow Aeroelectric Listers, A recent posting using the subject:
=9CTack vs Hobbs=9D (sic) generated many responses and
opinions.
With that level of interest maybe reading an article discussing the
subject of aeronautical time recording might add to our fellow listers
knowledge.
Please see the article: =9CWho=99s Got The Time?=9D
that can be found on page 36 of the October 2015 issue of Kitplanes
magazine.
If you don=99t have access to that magazine and article I may be
able to provide (upon request) a reasonable copy of the article.
Owen C. Baker
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Subject: | Garmin magnetometer installation considerations |
At 02:34 PM 3/15/2017, you wrote:
>Garmin doesn=92t recommend open non-shielded wire
>for the GMU (twisted or not). You=92ll note from
>the install manual is specifically calls out a 2
>conductor shielded wire and a 3 conductor
>shielded wire (one of each) run to the GMU. This
>is the simplest and cleanest way to do the
>install as well=85the wires are already twisted,
>already shielded and can be run together. Look
>at page 24-5 in the install manual (rev. AA) for
>details. The power, Ground and RS-232 share the
>three conductor wire with the shield getting
>sunk to the signal ground on the GMU. I=92d
>recommend just following that install
>guide=85.after hundreds of these we=92ve wired this
>way there hasn=92t been any issues yet.
>
>Cheers,
>Stein
>
Agreed. I've got a B@%%-load of 3-conductor
shielded. You can use it for both the 2 and
3-conductor pathways . . . just ignore one
wire in the bundle.
How much do you need to make the necessary
runs?
Bob . . .
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Subject: | AEC9005 and AEC9009 etched circuit boards |
Emacs!
I'm still getting the odd request for boards to fabricate the
AEC9009 Audio Isolation Amplifier http://tinyurl.com/z28sc83
and/or
AEC9005 Aux Battery/LV Warn Modules http://tinyurl.com/6mvso29
Had an opportunity to piggy-back some of these boards onto
the order for another program . . . with a bit of an
'upgrade'. Unlike the previous offers, these boards are
solder-masked and silk-screened, hence a bit more expensive.
$25 each for either one postage paid. Email me directly.
Bob . . .
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Subject: | Re: Who's Got the Time? |
Owen,
Would love to read the article or some quotes from it.
Thanks,
Ron Burnett
May you have the Lord's blessings today!
Sent from my iPad
> On Mar 15, 2017, at 3:24 PM, Owen Baker <bakerocb@cox.net> wrote:
>
> 3/15/2017
>
> Hello Fellow Aeroelectric Listers, A recent posting using the subject:
=9CTack vs Hobbs=9D (sic) generated many responses and opinions.
>
> With that level of interest maybe reading an article discussing the subjec
t of aeronautical time recording might add to our fellow listers knowledge.
>
> Please see the article: =9CWho=99s Got The Time?=9D that
can be found on page 36 of the October 2015 issue of Kitplanes magazine.
>
> If you don=99t have access to that magazine and article I may be abl
e to provide (upon request) a reasonable copy of the article.
>
> Owen C. Baker
>
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