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1. 06:13 AM - Re: CS-02 = POS (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
2. 06:17 AM - Re: Re: IVO Prop current limiter (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
3. 07:10 AM - Re: IVO Prop current limiter (kfav8r)
4. 07:53 AM - Re: CS-02 = POS (William Hunter)
5. 01:35 PM - Re: IVO Prop current limiter (Dennis Glaeser)
6. 04:13 PM - Re: CS-02 = POS (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
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At 10:52 AM 5/17/2017, you wrote:
>The Grand Rapids CS-02 is a POS!!!
>
>I bought one and while wiring it up it fell apart. The wires snap
>onto the ring with a plastic clip and this clip is VERY fragile.
>
>Grand Rapids replaced it for free and the second one fell apart
>during the assembly so I will not go that route again.
>
>Can someone please give me a suggestion for a ring type current
>sensor that I can use in lieu of the GS-02?
The sensor itself is okay, it's the choice of
connectors. Those are not designed for life
under the hood . . .
I used them INSIDE totally enclosed appliances
and even then, they're secured mechanically
against vibration induced disconnect.
I designed that line of sensors into B&C's
standby alternator controller decades ago and
it has performed well.
But you do need to solder the leads on . . . and
Grand Rapids would do well by their customers
to rethink their choice of attachment. B&C ships
the sensor with lead wires already installed.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: IVO Prop current limiter |
At 11:34 AM 5/17/2017, you wrote:
>
>Pictures attached...
Okay, I think I know what your problem
might be. The LEDS in the design are
not mounted on the board and leadwires
out to panel mounted LEDS are subject
to noise ingress and premature tripping
of the stall limiter.
Just for grins, try mounting some
LEDS right on the board and remove the
long lead wires.
In the time since I sketched that idea
out, I've incorporated some new technologies
into similar applications . . . micro-processors.
That IVO prop current limiter could be easily
redesigned to eliminate the naturally 'twitchy'
latching system I used on the original
design . . . gee . . . how long has that
been?
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: IVO Prop current limiter |
I'll give that a shot, Bob. Thanks.
That's what everyone asks me about building this plane, "gee, how long has that
been!?" :)
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Doug
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469415#469415
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Bob,
When you say "B&C ships the sensor with lead wires already installed" are
you saying that B&C sells a product like the CS-02? I looked on their
website but cannot find it.
Also, do you know what the metal terminal that snaps into the plug on the
L60 alternator is called? B&C has EXCELLENT customer service and sent me
some replacements for FREE and that is exceptionally cool however I need to
by some more of these connectors for car projects I have going on however
the support guy did not know the product name of the terminal.
..
THANKS!!!
Bill Hunter
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[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert L.
Nuckolls, III
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CS-02 = POS
At 10:52 AM 5/17/2017, you wrote:
The Grand Rapids CS-02 is a POS!!!
I bought one and while wiring it up it fell apart. The wires snap onto the
ring with a plastic clip and this clip is VERY fragile.
Grand Rapids replaced it for free and the second one fell apart during the
assembly so I will not go that route again.
Can someone please give me a suggestion for a ring type current sensor that
I can use in lieu of the GS-02?
The sensor itself is okay, it's the choice of
connectors. Those are not designed for life
under the hood . . .
I used them INSIDE totally enclosed appliances
and even then, they're secured mechanically
against vibration induced disconnect.
I designed that line of sensors into B&C's
standby alternator controller decades ago and
it has performed well.
But you do need to solder the leads on . . . and
Grand Rapids would do well by their customers
to rethink their choice of attachment. B&C ships
the sensor with lead wires already installed.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: IVO Prop current limiter |
There is no date on your circuit diagram, but my PDF has a file date of June 2010.
Time flies when you are having fun :-)
Dennis Glaeser (original requester for this circuit).
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469424#469424
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At 09:51 AM 5/18/2017, you wrote:
>Bob,
>
>When you say "B&C ships the sensor with lead wires already
>installed" are you saying that B&C sells a product like the
>CS-02? I looked on their website but cannot find it.
>
The picture you posted appears to be the
three pins on a hall-effect sensor threaded
onto a current carrying conductor.
We use the AmpLoc series devices similar to
what I thought I see in your picture.
Emacs!
I can install a harness on the sensor for you
if it would help.
>Also, do you know what the metal terminal that snaps into the plug
>on the L60 alternator is called? B&C has EXCELLENT customer service
>and sent me some replacements for FREE and that is exceptionally
>cool however I need to by some more of these connectors for car
>projects I have going on however the support guy did not know the
>product name of the terminal.
I believe the generic 1/4" fast-on terminals fit those
spades on the alternator. There are some un-insulated,
brass terminals that fit inside a plastic housing
which in turn becomes a 2-wire plug. Those
terminals are uninsulated and barb on the back
side that engages a latching cavity inside
the plug. I've seen them as loose parts at
B&C but don't know where they get them. They'd
probably sell you some.
Bob . . .
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