---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 05/18/17: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:13 AM - Re: CS-02 = POS (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 2. 06:17 AM - Re: Re: IVO Prop current limiter (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 3. 07:10 AM - Re: IVO Prop current limiter (kfav8r) 4. 07:53 AM - Re: CS-02 = POS (William Hunter) 5. 01:35 PM - Re: IVO Prop current limiter (Dennis Glaeser) 6. 04:13 PM - Re: CS-02 = POS (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:13:49 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CS-02 = POS At 10:52 AM 5/17/2017, you wrote: >The Grand Rapids CS-02 is a POS!!! > >I bought one and while wiring it up it fell apart. The wires snap >onto the ring with a plastic clip and this clip is VERY fragile. > >Grand Rapids replaced it for free and the second one fell apart >during the assembly so I will not go that route again. > >Can someone please give me a suggestion for a ring type current >sensor that I can use in lieu of the GS-02? The sensor itself is okay, it's the choice of connectors. Those are not designed for life under the hood . . . I used them INSIDE totally enclosed appliances and even then, they're secured mechanically against vibration induced disconnect. I designed that line of sensors into B&C's standby alternator controller decades ago and it has performed well. But you do need to solder the leads on . . . and Grand Rapids would do well by their customers to rethink their choice of attachment. B&C ships the sensor with lead wires already installed. Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:17:52 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: IVO Prop current limiter At 11:34 AM 5/17/2017, you wrote: > >Pictures attached... Okay, I think I know what your problem might be. The LEDS in the design are not mounted on the board and leadwires out to panel mounted LEDS are subject to noise ingress and premature tripping of the stall limiter. Just for grins, try mounting some LEDS right on the board and remove the long lead wires. In the time since I sketched that idea out, I've incorporated some new technologies into similar applications . . . micro-processors. That IVO prop current limiter could be easily redesigned to eliminate the naturally 'twitchy' latching system I used on the original design . . . gee . . . how long has that been? Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:10:22 AM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: IVO Prop current limiter From: "kfav8r" I'll give that a shot, Bob. Thanks. That's what everyone asks me about building this plane, "gee, how long has that been!?" :) -------- Doug Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469415#469415 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:53:31 AM PST US From: "William Hunter" Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: CS-02 = POS Bob, When you say "B&C ships the sensor with lead wires already installed" are you saying that B&C sells a product like the CS-02? I looked on their website but cannot find it. Also, do you know what the metal terminal that snaps into the plug on the L60 alternator is called? B&C has EXCELLENT customer service and sent me some replacements for FREE and that is exceptionally cool however I need to by some more of these connectors for car projects I have going on however the support guy did not know the product name of the terminal. .. THANKS!!! Bill Hunter From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert L. Nuckolls, III Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 6:12 AM Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: CS-02 = POS At 10:52 AM 5/17/2017, you wrote: The Grand Rapids CS-02 is a POS!!! I bought one and while wiring it up it fell apart. The wires snap onto the ring with a plastic clip and this clip is VERY fragile. Grand Rapids replaced it for free and the second one fell apart during the assembly so I will not go that route again. Can someone please give me a suggestion for a ring type current sensor that I can use in lieu of the GS-02? The sensor itself is okay, it's the choice of connectors. Those are not designed for life under the hood . . . I used them INSIDE totally enclosed appliances and even then, they're secured mechanically against vibration induced disconnect. I designed that line of sensors into B&C's standby alternator controller decades ago and it has performed well. But you do need to solder the leads on . . . and Grand Rapids would do well by their customers to rethink their choice of attachment. B&C ships the sensor with lead wires already installed. Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:35:59 PM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: IVO Prop current limiter From: "Dennis Glaeser" There is no date on your circuit diagram, but my PDF has a file date of June 2010. Time flies when you are having fun :-) Dennis Glaeser (original requester for this circuit). Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469424#469424 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:13:20 PM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: CS-02 = POS At 09:51 AM 5/18/2017, you wrote: >Bob, > >When you say "B&C ships the sensor with lead wires already >installed" are you saying that B&C sells a product like the >CS-02? I looked on their website but cannot find it. > The picture you posted appears to be the three pins on a hall-effect sensor threaded onto a current carrying conductor. We use the AmpLoc series devices similar to what I thought I see in your picture. Emacs! I can install a harness on the sensor for you if it would help. >Also, do you know what the metal terminal that snaps into the plug >on the L60 alternator is called? B&C has EXCELLENT customer service >and sent me some replacements for FREE and that is exceptionally >cool however I need to by some more of these connectors for car >projects I have going on however the support guy did not know the >product name of the terminal. I believe the generic 1/4" fast-on terminals fit those spades on the alternator. There are some un-insulated, brass terminals that fit inside a plastic housing which in turn becomes a 2-wire plug. Those terminals are uninsulated and barb on the back side that engages a latching cavity inside the plug. I've seen them as loose parts at B&C but don't know where they get them. They'd probably sell you some. 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