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1. 05:27 AM - Re: Tosten grip wiring with car-relay for trim (Achille)
2. 07:12 AM - Re: Question about Z19RB and OVP/Beaker and size wire (Achille)
3. 08:28 AM - Re: Re: Tosten grip wiring with car-relay for trim (GTH)
4. 08:29 AM - Re: Re: Tosten grip wiring with car-relay for trim (GTH)
5. 09:45 AM - Re: Re: Question about Z19RB and OVP/Beaker and size wire (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
6. 09:52 AM - Re: Re: Tosten grip wiring with car-relay for trim (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
7. 02:58 PM - Re: Tosten grip wiring with car-relay for trim (Achille)
8. 06:21 PM - Re: Tosten grip wiring with car-relay for trim (user9253)
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| Subject: | Re: Tosten grip wiring with car-relay for trim |
Thank you bob,
I haven't see the response before and I answered in other topic.
I will try it and I will come back to tell if it run better or not. (if it run
well also to tell what it was bad if it can help anyone.)
I find relay a bit slow for the motor trim operation, we haven't another solution
to wire it with another system ? (transistor ? I don't know well what is it,
I just read that on internet)
Thank you !
Mickal
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| Subject: | Re: Question about Z19RB and OVP/Beaker and size wire |
Hello again,
Just to ask a question about this OVP wiring.
I have a filter with it (b&c complet OVP system) for the relay I didn't put it
to wire it like the diagram, but the filter have to be add or not in my system
?
What is his fonction ?
Mickal
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| Subject: | Re: Tosten grip wiring with car-relay for trim |
Le 23/06/2017 14:26, Achille a crit :
>
> Thank you bob,
>
> I haven't see the response before and I answered in other topic.
>
> I will try it and I will come back to tell if it run better or not. (if it run
well also to tell what it was bad if it can help anyone.)
>
> I find relay a bit slow for the motor trim operation, we haven't another solution
to wire it with another system ? (transistor ? I don't know well what is
it, I just read that on internet)
>
Achille,
Just in case you happen to be happier posting in French, do not hesitate
to mail me personal in French.
Could you explain what you find so slow in relay operation, especially
considering that most trims are slow operating ?
N'hsite pas discuter en franais !
Best regards,
--
Amicalement,
Gilles
http://contrails.free.fr
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| Subject: | Re: Tosten grip wiring with car-relay for trim |
Le 23/06/2017 14:26, Achille a crit :
> I find relay a bit slow for the motor trim operation, we haven't another solution
to wire it with another system ? (transistor ? I don't know well what is
it, I just read that on internet)
>
Achille,
Just in case you happen to be happier posting in French, do not hesitate
to mail me personal in French.
Could you explain what you find so slow in relay operation, especially
considering that most trims are slow operating ?
N'hsite pas discuter en franais !
Best regards,
--
Amicalement,
Gilles
http://contrails.free.fr
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| Subject: | Re: Question about Z19RB and OVP/Beaker and size |
wire
At 09:11 AM 6/23/2017, you wrote:
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>Hello again,
>
>Just to ask a question about this OVP wiring.
>
>I have a filter with it (b&c complet OVP system) for the relay I
>didn't put it to wire it like the diagram, but the filter have to be
>add or not in my system ?
>
>What is his fonction ?
The OVP system was configured for use with
a permanent magnet alternator. The filter
is only used with these machines. Your
internally regulated alternator only needs
the OV protection module.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Tosten grip wiring with car-relay for trim |
At 07:26 AM 6/23/2017, you wrote:
>
>Thank you bob,
>
>I haven't see the response before and I answered in other topic.
>
>I will try it and I will come back to tell if it run better or not.
>(if it run well also to tell what it was bad if it can help anyone.)
>
>I find relay a bit slow for the motor trim operation, we haven't
>another solution to wire it with another system ? (transistor ? I
>don't know well what is it, I just read that on internet)
What do you mean my "slow"? Running
speed of the motor? Response delay to
pilot input?
Virtually every trim system I've worked on
over the past 40+ years is controlled by
relays. They're smaller and perhaps a
little bit faster than the suggested
automotive relays . . . but the difference
would be described as a few milliseconds.
The relays can be replaced with transistors
but let's see if it's really necessary.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Tosten grip wiring with car-relay for trim |
Yes in respons to pilot input.
Little input didn't run the motor, a bit large input pass through the value desired.
(no possible to adjust it precisely) but maybe it's not the fault of the
relay. More in the trim system made with a spring, which can increase the imprecision,
taking into account your response.
If all system are made with this kind of relay or close to, I will think about
all system before looking on the electrical part so.
(photo not very important helpful but a least we can see the motor)
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| Subject: | Re: Tosten grip wiring with car-relay for trim |
If I understand correctly, it is difficult to adjust the desired trim position
because pressing the switch either does not run the motor long enough or else
it runs too long and overshoots.
More precise control can be achieved by using a lower voltage to run the motor.
But the motor may fail to start if operated with a lower voltage. The solution
may be to operate the motor with a PWM (pulse width modulated) voltage.
The type of relay used has little affect on the trim speed or travel.
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Joe Gores
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