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Sat 08/26/17


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     1. 04:47 AM - Re: Tips for Building a Wiring Harness (C&K)
     2. 10:01 AM - Re: Non-aero app: 120/240 AC through 24vdc switch? (jonlaury)
     3. 02:18 PM - Re: Tips for Building a Wiring Harness (Chuck Birdsall)
     4. 03:32 PM - Re: Tips for Building a Wiring Harness (jonlaury)
     5. 03:48 PM - Re: Tips for Building a Wiring Harness (David Saylor)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:47:26 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Tips for Building a Wiring Harness
    From: C&K <yellowduckduo@gmail.com>
    Over the years I'm surprised at how many little additions and changes I've made. They would have been easier if I'd been more careful about marking both ends of every wire. Some of my changes were not as well documented as the original build which didn't help. Using mostly white wire because it was cheaper and easily available didn't help. Obviously access to wiring will become more difficult later so the little things will help later on. Using lacing instead of tie wraps worked well for me. Ken On 25/08/2017 11:14 PM, Art Zemon wrote: > Folks, > > I have all but two of the components for my instrument panel in-hand > so it's time to start building the wiring harness. Other than obvious > stuff, like draw it out on paper before starting to solder and crimp, > do you have any tips or suggestions for how to construct this complex > piece of wire and connectors? > > Thanks, > -- Art Z. > > -- > https://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/ > > /"If I am not for myself, who is for me? And if I am only for myself, > what am I? And if not now, when?" Hillel/


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    Time: 10:01:42 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Non-aero app: 120/240 AC through 24vdc switch?
    From: "jonlaury" <jonlaury@impulse.net>
    Bob, Here's the schematic, and late breaking...the ballast mfgr engineer informed me that the max inrush for the ballast is 101 A. Combined with the Pwr Supply's 40A inrush, rough duty for a 5A switch. Thanks for looking at this, John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472216#472216 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/meanwell_rs_100_24_spec_196.pdf http://forums.matronics.com//files/m4_wireout_122.pdf


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    Time: 02:18:57 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Tips for Building a Wiring Harness
    From: Chuck Birdsall <cbirdsall6@cox.net>
    Art, Here's my tuppence worth ... Implement your harness build with the idea I mind that you're going to have to get into it again at a later date and when you're a bit older than you are now... - service loops so you can remove items for maintenance - make things a "modular" as you can without adding excessive complexity -- if you build it so that all or significant parts can be removed without a big hassle it makes it easier later to modify or repair - it's very helpful to have the panel on the bench, with the trays and components installed ... wire it from the back of the panel on the bench, power and test on the bench and then install in the airplane. - color code where possible and within reasonable budget constraints ( red=power, black=ground, yellow=lighting, etc) - (use the same color wires on multi-conductor cables to do the same job throughout ... if you use the blue striped wire as an audio low on one headphone jack, do it for all of them) - label wires. I use a Bee3+ heat shrink printer, but white heat shrink and a sharpie would be cheaper and just as effective. - build a neat harness. Plan ahead as much as possible. It's a 3-d puzzle. Think about flight control movement and possible interference issues. I start with the fattest bunch first (com/nav audio lines), plan the route of the first one and then add in one at a time, sizing to fit the route for each. Then go with the next fattest bunch. I use cheap zip ties as temporary stays and then lace up when done and remove the zip ties (carefully) - where you use connectors to join harnesses, build it so it's impossible to hook the wrong ones together (if you have three sets of 9-pin mini molex connectors, it's too easy to confuse em) - offset shield ties, soldered junctions, etc at the point of entry into the connector backshells so they don't all wind up at the same place in the wire bundle, making an unwieldy lump. Chuck On Aug 26, 2017, at 06:46, C&K <yellowduckduo@gmail.com> wrote: Over the years I'm surprised at how many little additions and changes I've made. They would have been easier if I'd been more careful about marking both ends of every wire. Some of my changes were not as well documented as the original build which didn't help. Using mostly white wire because it was cheaper and easily available didn't help. Obviously access to wiring will become more difficult later so the little things will help later on. Using lacing instead of tie wraps worked well for me. Ken > On 25/08/2017 11:14 PM, Art Zemon wrote: > Folks, > > I have all but two of the components for my instrument panel in-hand so it's time to start building the wiring harness. Other than obvious stuff, like draw it out on paper before starting to solder and crimp, do you have any tips or suggestions for how to construct this complex piece of wire and connectors? > > Thanks, > -- Art Z. > > -- > https://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/ > > /"If I am not for myself, who is for me? And if I am only for myself, what am I? And if not now, when?" Hillel/


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    Time: 03:32:29 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Tips for Building a Wiring Harness
    From: "jonlaury" <jonlaury@impulse.net>
    Over time, I found the text made with fine pt Sharpie on white heat shrink fades/runs. Wish I had stayed with my original method of inkjet printed on white paper then cut into strips to be inserted inside clear heat shrink. They are crisp and legible, years later. Tag your circuits with masking tape/Sharpie. Precut heat shrink to slide as many as you need on a wire, and pick a time just to insert labels and shrink the covers. Goes pretty quick that way. Use Red for power, Black for ground. Additional color coding consistency. Try to keep it simple and use your wirebook to denote deviations. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=472230#472230


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    Time: 03:48:37 PM PST US
    From: David Saylor <saylor.dave@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Tips for Building a Wiring Harness
    I find it helpful to run all the serial wires into one side of a single connector, then jumper as necessary with the other side of the connector. Put the main end of it someplace where you can pull it out from under the panel and work on it in your lap. My experience is that there are always things that want another flavor of serial data, and it makes it easy to distribute. I've used 100-pin CPC connectors in the past. --Dave On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Art Zemon <art@zemon.name> wrote: > Folks, > > I have all but two of the components for my instrument panel in-hand so > it's time to start building the wiring harness. Other than obvious stuff, > like draw it out on paper before starting to solder and crimp, do you have > any tips or suggestions for how to construct this complex piece of wire and > connectors? > > Thanks, > -- Art Z. > > -- > https://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/ > > *"If I am not for myself, who is for me? And if I am only for myself, what > am I? And if not now, when?" Hillel* >




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