AeroElectric-List Digest Archive

Sun 10/22/17


Total Messages Posted: 8



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:39 PM - Re: Inexpensive voltage data logger (Charlie England)
     2. 01:19 PM - Arduino project (Alec Myers)
     3. 02:36 PM - Re: Arduino project (Peter Pengilly)
     4. 03:26 PM - Re: Re: Inexpensive voltage data logger (GTH)
     5. 04:58 PM - Battery charger / power supply (Art Zemon)
     6. 05:26 PM - Re: Battery charger / power supply (Sebastien)
     7. 05:45 PM - Re: Battery charger / power supply (David Lloyd)
     8. 10:04 PM - Re: Battery charger / power supply (jim)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:39:48 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Inexpensive voltage data logger
    From: Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
    This looks interesting. I bought one a couple of years ago, but never got around to trying it out. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Promo-iCP12-5mV-6-Ch-PC-Analog-USB-Oscilloscope-Unlimited-Logger-IO-DAQ-ADC-/122756578319?hash=item1c94dcbc0f:g:mfUAAOSwys5WUMMB There's also a series of systems with a lot more ins/outs that (I think) originated 'down under', but can be sourced in the USA, now. They're built around PICxxx chips, and come with a free BASIC language to program their features. The cool trick with these is that any VGA compatible display makes them real time monitors + data logging. http://geoffg.net/maximite.html Charlie --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus


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    Time: 01:19:01 PM PST US
    From: Alec Myers <alec@alecmyers.com>
    Subject: Arduino project
    This is probably of more interest to the aerodynamicists than the avionics people, but I built a data logger around a BNO055 orientation sensor and a BMP280 pressure sensor, an Adafruit Feather M0 datalogger (Arduino with built-in microSD slot), GPS module and LCD screen. It records GPS position and altitude, pressure altitude, ground speed, acceleration, heading, pitch and roll angles, and some other miscellaneous bits, twice every second. I used it to get data for some experiments in spiral dive instability and the following phugoid (if you don=99t damp it out yourself) in the recovery. All the modules have code libraries already written, so putting the software together was quite easy. One thing I found helpful was to have a display so I could log the sequence number whenever I began a test or manoeuvre. Saved scrolling through reams of data over a thirty minute flight to find the 60 seconds I wanted.


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    Time: 02:36:29 PM PST US
    From: "Peter Pengilly" <Peter@sportingaero.com>
    Subject: Arduino project
    Alec, Could you possibly send me your email address off list to peter at sportingaero dot com? I was an aerodynamicist before I moved over to avionics and would be really interested to know more about this device. Regards, Peter From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alec Myers Sent: 22 October 2017 21:17 Subject: AeroElectric-List: Arduino project This is probably of more interest to the aerodynamicists than the avionics people, but I built a data logger around a BNO055 orientation sensor and a BMP280 pressure sensor, an Adafruit Feather M0 datalogger (Arduino with built-in microSD slot), GPS module and LCD screen. It records GPS position and altitude, pressure altitude, ground speed, acceleration, heading, pitch and roll angles, and some other miscellaneous bits, twice every second. I used it to get data for some experiments in spiral dive instability and the following phugoid (if you don=99t damp it out yourself) in the recovery. All the modules have code libraries already written, so putting the software together was quite easy. One thing I found helpful was to have a display so I could log the sequence number whenever I began a test or manoeuvre. Saved scrolling through reams of data over a thirty minute flight to find the 60 seconds I wanted.


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    Time: 03:26:41 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Inexpensive voltage data logger
    From: GTH <gilles.thesee@free.fr>
    Le 21/10/2017 08:32, Eric Page a crit : > > I've played around with one of these a bit and it seemed to work quite well. > > http://preview.tinyurl.com/ya7pg9sg > Hi all, Thanks a lot for so many quick answers and kind offers ! I really do appreciate. I'm feeling a little "green" for programming a sophisticated multi channel DAQ card within a few days. Time is a factor, and my fellow builder is getting a bit nervous seeing his voltmeter oscillating randomly between 14 and 15 V instead of the solid 14 V the Rotax always produced to date. So for the time being I think I'll stick with the basic and inexpensive Maplin N70DP https://www.maplin.co.uk/p/maplin-usb-dc-voltage-data-logger-n70dp Now I'm embarrassed to say I'll have to choose between two most kind proposals from two gentlemen on this 'List ! Thanks again, -- Best regards, Gilles http://contrails.free.fr http://lapierre.skunkworks.free.fr


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    Time: 04:58:17 PM PST US
    From: Art Zemon <art@zemon.name>
    Subject: Battery charger / power supply
    Would this be good for my plane after I have an engine and for testing the panel now? https://m.harborfreight.com/2815-amp-automatic-microprocessor-controlled-battery-charger-63299.html -- Art Z. Sent from my phone. Please excuse brevity and bizarre typos.


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    Time: 05:26:56 PM PST US
    From: Sebastien <cluros@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Battery charger / power supply
    The problem I see with that charger Art is that it will not act as a power supply. If you want to test the panel or power the aircraft, that charger will turn itself off automatically if it sees the drain. I would go with something like this that has a power supply mode. This one will supply 5A continuously while you work. If I'm going to have the master on more than a couple minutes I plug it into ground power to support the battery. https://www.amazon.ca/NOCO-G7200-7-2-Amp-Battery-Maintainer/dp/B004LWTHP2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1508718168&sr=8-1&keywords=genius+charger+7200 On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 4:56 PM, Art Zemon <art@zemon.name> wrote: > Would this be good for my plane after I have an engine and for testing the > panel now? > https://m.harborfreight.com/2815-amp-automatic-microprocessor-controlled- > battery-charger-63299.html > > -- Art Z. > > Sent from my phone. Please excuse brevity and bizarre typos. >


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    Time: 05:45:52 PM PST US
    From: "David Lloyd" <skywagon@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: Battery charger / power supply
    Hi Art, I think you are asking 2 questions about battery and panel test. If you are just trying to keep a good battery charged/maintained, there ar e several low cost "maintainers" out there. Harbor F. has one for about $5 - 10, depending on their crazy sales ads. It is small and works for "main taining" only. Not for charging a flat battery or testing panels as its cu rrent ability is too low. The only detail to note in its use... is to measure the float voltage once it has stabilized the charging level of the battery. My suggestion is that it should "float" about 13.2 to 13.4 v. Others may disagree. If it is no t that, save your receipt, return it and get another unit. The older style units, with a little case modification, could be adjusted to the correct v oltage range. Not sure the current models can be adjusted. Now, for general charging/maintaining and panel testing, I believe the unit you suggested should work fine. Keep in mind that it's top current abilit y is 15 amps. So, don't fire up the panel and accessories to more than app rox. 12 amps or so. All should be fine. Let us know if use this unit how it performs. . . . Dave --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- ----- Original Message ----- From: Art Zemon To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 4:56 PM Subject: AeroElectric-List: Battery charger / power supply Would this be good for my plane after I have an engine and for testing th e panel now? https://m.harborfreight.com/2815-amp-automatic-microprocessor-controlled- battery-charger-63299.html -- Art Z. Sent from my phone. Please excuse brevity and bizarre typos. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus


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    Time: 10:04:52 PM PST US
    From: "jim" <jimkale@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: Battery charger / power supply
    I read with interest the battery charging information. I agree that a battery charger/maintainer is the way to go. I do not get the cheap (made in China battery chargers) the life expectancy of some of the cheap parts in them is too much of an issue for me. All it takes is for a resistor, or capacitor to go out and the charger to go into a high voltage mode and you have a melt down on your battery. It could possibly catch fire and burn your airplane up. I pay a little more and get one of the high quality BATTERY MINDER charger/maintainers. They have a proven reputation and are built with high quality parts. They also have circuits to prevent high runaway voltage just in case one of the critical parts fail. Think about what you are risking with a battery charger malfunction. Fortunately, most of the time, if there is a part failure, they just shut down, and drain your battery to zero. Then you get to buy another battery and another charger. From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Art Zemon Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 6:56 PM Subject: AeroElectric-List: Battery charger / power supply Would this be good for my plane after I have an engine and for testing the panel now? https://m.harborfreight.com/2815-amp-automatic-microprocessor-controlled- battery-charger-63299.html -- Art Z. Sent from my phone. Please excuse brevity and bizarre typos.




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