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Sun 11/05/17


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     0. 05:28 AM - Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution Today! (Matt Dralle)
     1. 05:20 AM - Re: Ground wire for LED lights (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     2. 05:38 AM - Ray Allen Trim Servos and Garmin GAD 27 (Michael Easley)
     3. 06:26 AM - Re: Ray Allen Trim Servos and Garmin GAD 27 (GTH)
     4. 08:54 AM - Re: Ray Allen Trim Servos and Garmin GAD 27 (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:28:13 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make
    A Contribution Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator


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    Time: 05:20:13 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Ground wire for LED lights
    At 09:10 PM 11/4/2017, you wrote: > >Interesting. My Aveo nav/strobe LEDs are perfectly quiet in my Bose A20s. > >On 11/4/2017 8:03 PM, Rick Beebe wrote: >>I agree, but fwiw I can hear my aeroled strobes in my headset. To >>be fair I could hear the Whelan strobe they replaced and I re-used >>the same wires. At some point I plan to investigate but it's not >>obnoxious to make it a priority. >>--Rick Running a noise problem to ground is a bit like playing the board game Clue . . . you sift through the features of your airplane's configuration more to eliminate answers than to confirm them. Sometimes the answers pop up immediately, maybe not. You already have an antagonist . . . and sorta have a victim. Chapter 17 of the 'Connection http://tinyurl.com/pt97pha describes the 'rules of the game' for sifting clues. Only after your victim and propagation pathway are discovered are you ready to effect a remedy. But as long as the Z-15 guidelines for grounding are observed, the remedy will not be found lurking in a ground-loop. Bob . . .


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    Time: 05:38:49 AM PST US
    From: "Michael Easley" <mikeeasley@aol.com>
    Subject: Ray Allen Trim Servos and Garmin GAD 27
    I have 4-way hat switches on my sticks. I've used both the RAC REL-2 Relay Decks and later switched to a SafetyTrim for the elevator trim. For reference. Description of Relay Deck. This device converts the momentary contact action of the ROS-4 4-way switch, or any SPST pushbutton switch, into a DPDT action that is necessary to operate Ray Allen servos. Description of RAC Switch. The RS2 rocker switch is designed to electrically short the actuator motor to ground (-) when released. This stops the actuator motor without any coasting, allowing precise positioning of the actuator. The GAD 27, part of my G3X panel, is supposed to be a trim controller. I does the mixing, variable speed control, etc., but I can't find any reference to it working correctly with the RAC servos. So do I need relay decks, or not? If so, where? Between the switches and the GAD 27, between the GAD 27 and the autopilot servos, or between the autopilot servos and the trim servos? Thanks, Mike


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    Time: 06:26:50 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Ray Allen Trim Servos and Garmin GAD 27
    From: GTH <gilles.thesee@free.fr>
    Le 05/11/2017 14:35, Michael Easley a crit : > > The GAD 27, part of my G3X panel, is supposed to be a trim controller. > I does the mixing, variable speed control, etc., but I cant find any > reference to it working correctly with the RAC servos. So do I need > relay decks, or not? If so, where? Between the switches and the GAD > 27, between the GAD 27 and the autopilot servos, or between the > autopilot servos and the trim servos? > Mike and all, FWIW, the Garmin G3X Install Manual v 5 states 5A current output for each of the trim motors, see page 23.3. Pages 24.9 through 27.11 show example wirings with direct stick switch arrangement and no relay. Also the RAC trim installation sheet shows a 1 A fuse or breaker. So I think you should be OK with no relays. Of course once the system is installed, a precautionary current measurement is in order. What you didn't mention is whether you are using GSA28 A/P servos or not ? Hope this helps, -- Best regards, Gilles http://contrails.free.fr http://lapierre.skunkworks.free.fr


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    Time: 08:54:28 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com>
    Subject: Re: Ray Allen Trim Servos and Garmin GAD 27
    > >So I think you should be OK with no relays. Of course once the >system is installed, a precautionary current measurement is in order. >What you didn't mention is whether you are using GSA28 A/P servos or not ? The RAC actuators draw very low currents. I've seen them powered with an array of AA alkaline cells with YEARS of service. I think they draw about 100 mA. Bob . . .




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