---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 03/08/18: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:21 AM - Re: 1/4 watt Panasonic resistors (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 2. 08:36 AM - diy tablet efi (Skip) 3. 09:57 AM - Re: diy tablet efi (chris) 4. 10:06 AM - Re: diy tablet efi (Ernest Christley) 5. 11:05 AM - Re: diy tablet efi (Brian Ashton) 6. 01:11 PM - Re: 1/4 watt Panasonic resistors (Bill Maxwell) 7. 01:17 PM - Re: diy tablet efi (Bill Maxwell) 8. 07:25 PM - Re: diy tablet efi (Ernest Christley) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:21:25 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: 1/4 watt Panasonic resistors At 07:45 PM 3/7/2018, you wrote: > >I am building the Audio Isolation Amplifier detailed on the >Aeroelectric Connection. I purchased some of the residual boards >from Bob Nuckolls in late 2017. It's been a while since I've done >any board level work but I have enough self confidence (justified or >not) and experience to not have many concerns with the project. > >Anyway, a recent shoulder surgery provided the "free time" to stop >working on my plane and spend some quality time with a soldering >iron. I ordered components from Digikey and received the completed >order in just a few days. I was surprised to find the 1/4 watt >resistors appear to be (what I remember from years past) as about >the size of 1/8 resistors (i.e. just under 4 mm in length). > >These are mostly Panasonic resistors and when I go to the Panasonic >datasheet (also available on the Digikey site) the specification >shows that yes, their 1/4 resistors are about the size of what I >recall (from years back) as being 1/8 watt resistors. Materials for fabricating components have evolved over the years and many components have become smaller for their dissipation ratings. In any case, NONE of the resistors in the amplifier are thermally challenged . . . what ever you can find that fits into the slot on the board will be fine. Let us know how it works out for you. Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:36:05 AM PST US From: Skip Subject: AeroElectric-List: diy tablet efi Althought I was the first in town to have and build a pc, I am sadly out of touch with current technology. I have been reading the automotive boards, people are putting in mini computer systems with a tablet monitor and running everything, even the electric seats. So my question here, has anyone any information on putting together an inexpensive tablet based system for experimentals? I just bought a 10 inch from Walmart for $60, runs android, wifi, bluetooth. I would think it could display a gps, engine instruments, Stormy Daniels, and other stuff cheaply. Cell technology tablets aren't much more, that would keep it connected at all times? Can you get cheap weather radar on your cell phone? Yes, hopelessly out of date. Thoughts? Skip cardinalnsb@aol.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:57:10 AM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: diy tablet efi From: chris look at speeduino. do a google search csmale@bak.rr.com On 03/08/2018 08:34 AM, Skip wrote: > Althought I was the first in town to have and build a pc, I am sadly > out of touch with current technology. I have been reading the > automotive boards, people are putting in mini computer systems with a > tablet monitor and running everything, even the electric seats. So my > question here, has anyone any information on putting together an > inexpensive tablet based system for experimentals? I just bought a 10 > inch from Walmart for $60, runs android, wifi, bluetooth. > > I would think it could display a gps, engine instruments, Stormy > Daniels, and other stuff cheaply. > > Cell technology tablets aren't much more, that would keep it connected > at all times? Can you get cheap weather radar on your cell phone? > > Yes, hopelessly out of date. > > Thoughts? > > > Skip > cardinalnsb@aol.com > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:06:35 AM PST US From: Ernest Christley Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: diy tablet efi Look on the google PlayStore for Avare. It's free and open source.=C2- There is a software control radio module y ou can get for about $20, that will allow you to get ADSB-IN.=C2- I have used it, and I works well. On Thursday, March 8, 2018 12:58 PM, chris wrote: look at speeduino. do a google search=C2-=C2-=C2- csmale@bak.rr.co m On 03/08/2018 08:34 AM, Skip wrote: Althought I was the first in town to have and build a pc, I am sadly out of touch with current technology.=C2- I have been reading the automotive bo ards, people are putting in mini computer systems with a tablet monitor and running everything, even the electric seats.=C2- So my question here, ha s anyone any information on putting together an inexpensive tablet based sy stem for experimentals?=C2- I just bought a 10 inch from Walmart for $60, runs android, wifi, bluetooth. I would think it could display a gps, engine instruments, Stormy Daniels, and other stuff cheaply. Cell technology tablets aren't much more, that would keep it connected at all times?=C2- Can you get cheap weather radar on your cell phone? Yes, hopelessly out of date. Thoughts? Skip cardinalnsb@aol.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:05:50 AM PST US From: "Brian Ashton" Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: diy tablet efi I would start by splitting your learning into two groups: navigation and ECU/engine monitoring. These tips and links should get you started on the ECU for aircraft. They are from an engine manufacturer. I am just learning myself so I can=99t help you beyond what has been passed on to me: Use microsquirt, not megasquirt Don=99t use d sub connectors Go with AMP seal connector Ultra version has the AMP seal connector stock #1 failure is the connector Use single board ECU=99s as Piggy back boards make more connectors and so more points of failure They all use the same processor and firmware https://www.diyautotune.com/support/tech/ https://www.diyautotune.com/support/tech/other/displays-data/ http://www.msdroid.com/ http://www.msextra.com/doc/pdf/Megasquirt_Serial_Protocol-2014-10-28.pdf http://www.tunerstudio.com/index.php/tuner-studio http://www.microsquirt.com/ http://megasquirt.info/products/pro-controllers/microsquirt/ From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ernest Christley Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 9:06 AM Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: diy tablet efi Look on the google PlayStore for Avare. It's free and open source. There is a software control radio module you can get for about $20, that will allow you to get ADSB-IN. I have used it, and I works well. On Thursday, March 8, 2018 12:58 PM, chris > wrote: look at speeduino. do a google search csmale@bak.rr.com On 03/08/2018 08:34 AM, Skip wrote: Althought I was the first in town to have and build a pc, I am sadly out of touch with current technology. I have been reading the automotive boards, people are putting in mini computer systems with a tablet monitor and running everything, even the electric seats. So my question here, has anyone any information on putting together an inexpensive tablet based system for experimentals? I just bought a 10 inch from Walmart for $60, runs android, wifi, bluetooth. I would think it could display a gps, engine instruments, Stormy Daniels, and other stuff cheaply. Cell technology tablets aren't much more, that would keep it connected at all times? Can you get cheap weather radar on your cell phone? Yes, hopelessly out of date. Thoughts? Skip cardinalnsb@aol.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:11:14 PM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: 1/4 watt Panasonic resistors From: Bill Maxwell These days most new quarter watt resistors are of metal film composition and are of a size more akin to the 1/8 watters of a few years ago. They tend to be of tighter tolerance too, thanks to the mode of manufacture but fortunately are still cheap. Bill On 9/03/2018 3:20 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote: > At 07:45 PM 3/7/2018, you wrote: >> >> I am building the Audio Isolation Amplifier detailed on the >> Aeroelectric Connection. I purchased some of the residual boards >> from Bob Nuckolls in late 2017. It's been a while since I've done >> any board level work but I have enough self confidence (justified or >> not) and experience to not have many concerns with the project. >> >> Anyway, a recent shoulder surgery provided the "free time" to stop >> working on my plane and spend some quality time with a soldering >> iron. I ordered components from Digikey and received the completed >> order in just a few days. I was surprised to find the 1/4 watt >> resistors appear to be (what I remember from years past) as about the >> size of 1/8 resistors (i.e. just under 4 mm in length). >> >> These are mostly Panasonic resistors and when I go to the Panasonic >> datasheet (also available on the Digikey site) the specification >> shows that yes, their 1/4 resistors are about the size of what I >> recall (from years back) as being 1/8 watt resistors. > > Materials for fabricating components have > evolved over the years and many components > have become smaller for their dissipation > ratings. In any case, NONE of the resistors > in the amplifier are thermally challenged . . . > what ever you can find that fits into the > slot on the board will be fine. > > Let us know how it works out for you. > > > Bob . . . > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:17:41 PM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: diy tablet efi From: Bill Maxwell There are a few projects that I have come across on the net, Skip althoughI can't find any links at the the moment. One problem with the pad based approach though is the visibility of the TFT screen in bright sunlight. The tablets using oled (also known as amoled) TFT s displays are the best in this regard but not many manufacturers are using them. Samsung were a couple of years ago but even they seem to have now followed the general market trend and discontinued them. On 9/03/2018 3:34 AM, Skip wrote: > Althought I was the first in town to have and build a pc, I am sadly > out of touch with current technology. I have been reading the > automotive boards, people are putting in mini computer systems with a > tablet monitor and running everything, even the electric seats. So my > question here, has anyone any information on putting together an > inexpensive tablet based system for experimentals? I just bought a 10 > inch from Walmart for $60, runs android, wifi, bluetooth. > > I would think it could display a gps, engine instruments, Stormy > Daniels, and other stuff cheaply. > > Cell technology tablets aren't much more, that would keep it connected > at all times? Can you get cheap weather radar on your cell phone? > > Yes, hopelessly out of date. > > Thoughts? > > > Skip > cardinalnsb@aol.com > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:25:02 PM PST US From: Ernest Christley Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: diy tablet efi I spent quite a bit of time last year using a Android tablet and a Android phone (Samsung 5) for navigation.=C2- Granted, my canopy is tinted, but I never had an issue with the sun being to bright to use them. On Thursday, March 8, 2018 4:18 PM, Bill Maxwell wrote: There are a few projects that I have come across on the net, Skip althou ghI can't find any links at the the moment. One problem with the pad based approach though is the visibility of the TFT screen in bright sunlight. The tablets using oled (also known as amoled) TFT s displays are the best in t his regard but not many manufacturers are using them. Samsung were a couple of years ago but even they seem to have now followed the general market tr end and discontinued them. On 9/03/2018 3:34 AM, Skip wrote: Althought I was the first in town to have and build a pc, I am sadly out of touch with current technology.=C2- I have been reading the automotive bo ards, people are putting in mini computer systems with a tablet monitor and running everything, even the electric seats.=C2- So my question here, ha s anyone any information on putting together an inexpensive tablet based sy stem for experimentals?=C2- I just bought a 10 inch from Walmart for $60, runs android, wifi, bluetooth. I would think it could display a gps, engine instruments, Stormy Daniels, and other stuff cheaply. Cell technology tablets aren't much more, that would keep it connected at all times?=C2- Can you get cheap weather radar on your cell phone? Yes, hopelessly out of date. Thoughts? 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