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Sat 03/24/18


Total Messages Posted: 12



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     1. 01:07 AM - Re: USB Power Supplies (BobD)
     2. 06:50 AM - Re: Not receiving posts (rnjcurtis)
     3. 09:31 AM - Re: Re: USB Power Supplies ()
     4. 04:13 PM - Re: Re: USB Power Supplies (Ernest Christley)
     5. 04:45 PM - SD-20 Troubleshooting (William Hunter)
     6. 04:58 PM - Re: Re: USB Power Supplies (Charlie England)
     7. 06:15 PM - Re: Re: USB Power Supplies (Dj Merrill)
     8. 07:14 PM - Re: Re: USB Power Supplies (Tim Olson)
     9. 08:02 PM - Re: SD-20 Troubleshooting (user9253)
    10. 08:09 PM - Re: Re: SD-20 Troubleshooting (William Hunter)
    11. 10:54 PM - Re: Re: USB Power Supplies (Daniel Hooper)
    12. 11:15 PM - Re: Re: USB Power Supplies (Bob Verwey)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:07:50 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: USB Power Supplies
    From: "BobD" <rjd@bobdawson.plus.com>
    I have fitted the two port version of this in my Europa Aircraft. I have not used it in flight yet ( only started test flying recently), but it has had some very good reviews in the UK http://www.charge4.co.uk/ -------- Bob Dawson XS TG || 912 ULS || G-NHRJ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478838#478838


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    Time: 06:50:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Not receiving posts
    From: rnjcurtis <rnjcurtis@charter.net>
    QXBwYXJlbnRseSBldmVyeW9uZSByYW4gb3V0IG9mIHByb2JsZW1zIG9yIHRoaW5ncyB0byBzYXkh IQoKUm9nZXIKCgoKU2VudCBmcm9tOiBZT0dBIFRBQkxFVCAxMCBIRCsKClJpY2hhcmQgR2lyYXJk IDxhc2xzYS5ybmdAZ21haWwuY29tPiB3cm90ZToKCj5IYXN0aGVsaXN0Z29uZWRhcms/QWxsb2Zh c3VkZGVuSXN0b3BwZWRyZWNlaXZpbmdwb3N0cy5JY2hlY2tlZHRoZU1hdHJvbmljc3NpdGV0b21h a2VzdXJlSW1zdGlsbHN1YnNjcmliZWRhbmRteWVtYWlsYWNjb3VudHRvbWFrZXN1cmVpdHdhc250 aW5hZHZlcnRlbnRseWJsb2NrZWQuQW55b25lZWxzZWhhdmluZ3RoaXNwcm9ibGVtP1JpY2stLeKA nEJsZXNzZWRhcmV0aGVjcmFja2VkLGZvcnRoZXlzaGFsbGxldGludGhlbGlnaHQu4oCdwqDCoEdy b3VjaG9NYXJ4VmlydXMtZnJlZS53d3cuYXZnLmNvbQ=


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    Time: 09:31:11 AM PST US
    From: <jim@PoogieBearRanch.com>
    Subject: Re: USB Power Supplies
    Wow! I should hope they got good reviews... Based on today's exchange rate, the Charge 4 is a bit over $257 (plus shipping)! You could purchase eight of the SteinAir version for that! Another one worthy of consideration if you need/prefer a "horizontal" charger would be the Belite Aircraft USB Dual 2.4 amp charger, which sells for $75. It can be seen at http://www.beliteaircraftstore.com/usb-dual-2-4-amp-charger/ (The single-port version can also be ordered through Aircraft Spruce, though it's a bit more expensive for some reason...) Jim Parker -------- Original Message -------- Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: USB Power Supplies From: "BobD" <rjd@bobdawson.plus.com> I have fitted the two port version of this in my Europa Aircraft. I have not used it in flight yet ( only started test flying recently), but it has had some very good reviews in the UK http://www.charge4.co.uk/ -------- Bob Dawson XS TG || 912 ULS || G-NHRJ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478838#478838


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    Time: 04:13:35 PM PST US
    From: Ernest Christley <echristley@att.net>
    Subject: Re: USB Power Supplies
    Good lord, people!!=C2- You can pick these power regulators up every day that plug into a cigarette lighter for $5!=C2-=C2- They are all an LM35 7.=C2-=C2- I have a junk drawer full of them.=C2- And, the cigarette lighter jack is good for older equipment that is configured for it.=C2- W hy would anyone ever pay over $10 for one? Why is aviation expensive?=C2- Because, people are will to pay for it? On Saturday, March 24, 2018 12:32 PM, "jim@PoogieBearRanch.com" <jim@Po ogieBearRanch.com> wrote: Wow!=C2- I should hope they got good reviews...=C2- Based on today's ex change rate, the Charge 4 is a bit over $257 (plus shipping)!=C2- You could purchase eight of the SteinAir version for that!=C2- Another one worthy of consideration if you need/prefer a "horizontal" charger would be the Belite Aircraft USB Dual 2.4 amp charger, which sells for $75.=C2- It can be seen at http://www.beliteaircraftstore.com/usb-dual-2-4-amp-charger/ (The single-port version can also be ordered through Aircraft Spruce, though it's a bit more expensive for some reason...) Jim Parker -------- Original Message -------- Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: USB Power Supplies From: "BobD" <rjd@bobdawson.plus.com> I have fitted the two port version of this in my Europa Aircraft. I have not used it in flight yet ( only started test flying recently), but it has had some very good reviews in the UK http://www.charge4.co.uk/ -------- Bob Dawson XS TG || 912 ULS || G-NHRJ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478838#478838 - S - WIKI - - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.


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    Time: 04:45:23 PM PST US
    From: "William Hunter" <billhuntersemail@gmail.com>
    Subject: SD-20 Troubleshooting
    Hi All, I was hoping I could talk you into helping me troubleshoot an SD-20 with a LR3C-14 Voltage Regulator. Prior to this issue the alternator would produce 14.4 volts and about 10 amsp in cruise flight and other times when the engine is turning quickly. The isolated bus that is powered by this system is now showing 12.2 volts and 4.5 amps and then slowly the volts on that bus keep dropping so it is obvious that the alternator is not charging. The bus that it is powering is small and the only items being powered in cruise flight are the following (amps listed are the absolute max that the appliance will be pulling): VOLT REG SENSE 2 LR3C-14 Voltage Regulator BUS VOLTAGE SENSE VOLT REG FIELD 5 VOLTAGE REGULATOR FIELD Dynon SV-1000 5 SV-D1000 10" SKYVIEW DISPLAY SV COM RADIO 5 SV-COM-425 0.2amp RCV 3 amp XMT SV-AP SERVO 5 SV-AP SERVO Pitch servo 2 amps when MAX torque Roll servo 2 amps when MAX torque SV-AP POWER 3 SV-AP UNIT Can someone please provide me with some troubleshooting advice? .. Cheers!!! Bill Hunter


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    Time: 04:58:47 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: USB Power Supplies
    From: Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
    While I agree that $hundreds$ is just silly, there can be issues with cheaper (and even some less cheap) adapters. Some generate quite a bit of audio frequency and RF 'noise' that gets injected and/or transmitted into intercoms, radios, nav systems, etc. SteinAir claims to modify the ones they sell to ensure that there's no noise. Another potential issue is that a lot of tablets, especially the the self focused ones (i etc), don't play well with many aftermarket chargers. The tablet needs to hear from the charger to know it's ok to draw the full 2+ amps, or it won't quick charge; sometimes that means it will discharge faster than it will accept charge current. Charlie On 3/24/2018 6:12 PM, Ernest Christley wrote: > Good lord, people!! You can pick these power regulators up every day > that plug into a cigarette lighter for $5! They are all an LM357. > I have a junk drawer full of them. And, the cigarette lighter jack is > good for older equipment that is configured for it. Why would anyone > ever pay over $10 for one? > > Why is aviation expensive? Because, people are will to pay for it? > > > On Saturday, March 24, 2018 12:32 PM, "jim@PoogieBearRanch.com" > <jim@PoogieBearRanch.com> wrote: > > > <mailto:jim@poogiebearranch.com>> > > Wow! I should hope they got good reviews... Based on today's exchange > rate, the Charge 4 is a bit over $257 (plus shipping)! You could > purchase eight of the SteinAir version for that! > > Another one worthy of consideration if you need/prefer a "horizontal" > charger would be the Belite Aircraft USB Dual 2.4 amp charger, which > sells for $75. It can be seen at > http://www.beliteaircraftstore.com/usb-dual-2-4-amp-charger/ (The > single-port version can also be ordered through Aircraft Spruce, though > it's a bit more expensive for some reason...) > > Jim Parker > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: USB Power Supplies > From: "BobD" <rjd@bobdawson.plus.com <mailto:rjd@bobdawson.plus.com>> > Date: Sat, March 24, 2018 3:07 am > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > <mailto:aeroelectric-list@matronics.com> > > <rjd@bobdawson.plus.com <mailto:rjd@bobdawson.plus.com>> > > I have fitted the two port version of this in my Europa Aircraft. I have > not used it in flight yet ( only started test flying recently), but it > has had some very good reviews in the UK > > http://www.charge4.co.uk/ > > -------- > Bob Dawson > XS TG || 912 ULS || G-NHRJ > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus


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    Time: 06:15:53 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: USB Power Supplies
    From: Dj Merrill <deej@deej.net>
    On 3/24/2018 7:12 PM, Ernest Christley wrote: > Why would anyone ever pay over $10 for one? Slightly more than $10 (I paid $12 without the cable), but these work great to charge both Android and iPad devices at the same time, dual 2.4 amp ports (4.8 amps total), with no spurious RF emissions that I've been able to notice. $20 including a cable is still a pretty good deal: https://www.amazon.com/SCOSCHE-Lightning-Micro-USB-Charge-Charger/dp/B01AG16KZQ/ Slightly cheaper on Ebay, search there for "scosche usbc242m" -Dj -- Dj Merrill - N1JOV - EAA Chapter 87 Currently Flying: Glastar Previously: Cessna 150 - Glasair 1 FT - Grumman AA1B


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    Time: 07:14:18 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: USB Power Supplies
    I use these as well, in 2 planes and many cars. Tim > On Mar 24, 2018, at 8:15 PM, Dj Merrill <deej@deej.net> wrote: > > >> On 3/24/2018 7:12 PM, Ernest Christley wrote: >> Why would anyone ever pay over $10 for one? > > Slightly more than $10 (I paid $12 without the cable), but these work great to charge both Android and iPad devices at the same time, dual 2.4 amp ports (4.8 amps total), with no spurious RF emissions that I've been able to notice. > > $20 including a cable is still a pretty good deal: > > https://www.amazon.com/SCOSCHE-Lightning-Micro-USB-Charge-Charger/dp/B01AG16KZQ/ > > Slightly cheaper on Ebay, search there for "scosche usbc242m" > > -Dj > > -- > Dj Merrill - N1JOV - EAA Chapter 87 > Currently Flying: Glastar > Previously: Cessna 150 - Glasair 1 FT - Grumman AA1B > > > >


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    Time: 08:02:07 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: SD-20 Troubleshooting
    From: "user9253" <fransew@gmail.com>
    Do you have the B and C trouble shooting manual? http://www.bandc.aero/pdfs/BC410-H_Technical_Manual.pdf There is also a troubleshooting guide in the LR3C Manual. http://www.bandc.aero/pdfs/LR3C_Installation_Manual.pdf#page=8 -------- Joe Gores Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478857#478857


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    Time: 08:09:22 PM PST US
    From: William Hunter <billhuntersemail@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: SD-20 Troubleshooting
    Thanks Joe... greatly appreciated Thanks, Bill Hunter On Sat, Mar 24, 2018, 20:06 user9253 <fransew@gmail.com> wrote: > > Do you have the B and C trouble shooting manual? > http://www.bandc.aero/pdfs/BC410-H_Technical_Manual.pdf > > There is also a troubleshooting guide in the LR3C Manual. > http://www.bandc.aero/pdfs/LR3C_Installation_Manual.pdf#page=8 > > -------- > Joe Gores > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478857#478857 > >


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    Time: 10:54:38 PM PST US
    From: Daniel Hooper <enginerdy@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: USB Power Supplies
    This attitude makes it almost impossible to make a good quality one for a re asonable price for the OBAM market. You=99re competing with junky $10 units that don=99t even delive r their advertised power rating=94 and people think they can just buil d their own with a 7805..... Short answer: you can, but it will be useless, and if it does somehow work i t will dissipate more power in heat than it delivers to the device. These power supplies are deceptively complicated between the efficiency, noi se, and interface requirements for the different devices. Don=99t be so quick to pan the good ones, because at least in this cas e, if you want a =98good=99 one you=99re probably going to have to pay for it. Daniel > On Mar 24, 2018, at 6:12 PM, Ernest Christley <echristley@att.net> wrote: > > Good lord, people!! You can pick these power regulators up every day that plug into a cigarette lighter for $5! They are all an LM357. I have a j unk drawer full of them. And, the cigarette lighter jack is good for older e quipment that is configured for it. Why would anyone ever pay over $10 for o ne? > > Why is aviation expensive? Because, people are will to pay for it? > > > On Saturday, March 24, 2018 12:32 PM, "jim@PoogieBearRanch.com" <jim@Poogi eBearRanch.com> wrote: > > > > Wow! I should hope they got good reviews... Based on today's exchange > rate, the Charge 4 is a bit over $257 (plus shipping)! You could > purchase eight of the SteinAir version for that! > > Another one worthy of consideration if you need/prefer a "horizontal" > charger would be the Belite Aircraft USB Dual 2.4 amp charger, which > sells for $75. It can be seen at > http://www.beliteaircraftstore.com/usb-dual-2-4-amp-charger/ (The > single-port version can also be ordered through Aircraft Spruce, though > it's a bit more expensive for some reason...) > > Jim Parker > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: USB Power Supplies > From: "BobD" <rjd@bobdawson.plus.com> > Date: Sat, March 24, 2018 3:07 am > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > > > I have fitted the two port version of this in my Europa Aircraft. I have > not used it in flight yet ( only started test flying recently), but it > has had some very good reviews in the UK > > http://www.charge4.co.uk/ > > -------- > Bob Dawson > XS TG || 912 ULS || G-NHRJ > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478838#478838 > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List > http://forums.matronics.com > <= Add some info to the Matronics Email List Wiki! > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > >


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    Time: 11:15:23 PM PST US
    From: Bob Verwey <bob.verwey@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: USB Power Supplies
    Cheap=interference with radio systems (don't ask how I know)..and fire risk...should I go on? <grin> Best... Bob Verwey 082 331 2727 On 25 March 2018 at 01:12, Ernest Christley <echristley@att.net> wrote: > Good lord, people!! You can pick these power regulators up every day that > plug into a cigarette lighter for $5! They are all an LM357. I have a > junk drawer full of them. And, the cigarette lighter jack is good for > older equipment that is configured for it. Why would anyone ever pay over > $10 for one? > > Why is aviation expensive? Because, people are will to pay for it? > > > On Saturday, March 24, 2018 12:32 PM, "jim@PoogieBearRanch.com" > <jim@PoogieBearRanch.com> wrote: > > > > Wow! I should hope they got good reviews... Based on today's exchange > rate, the Charge 4 is a bit over $257 (plus shipping)! You could > purchase eight of the SteinAir version for that! > > Another one worthy of consideration if you need/prefer a "horizontal" > charger would be the Belite Aircraft USB Dual 2.4 amp charger, which > sells for $75. It can be seen at > http://www.beliteaircraftstore.com/usb-dual-2-4-amp-charger/ (The > single-port version can also be ordered through Aircraft Spruce, though > it's a bit more expensive for some reason...) > > Jim Parker > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: USB Power Supplies > From: "BobD" <rjd@bobdawson.plus.com> > Date: Sat, March 24, 2018 3:07 am > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > > > I have fitted the two port version of this in my Europa Aircraft. I have > not used it in flight yet ( only started test flying recently), but it > has had some very good reviews in the UK > > http://www.charge4.co.uk/ > > -------- > Bob Dawson > XS TG || 912 ULS || G-NHRJ > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=478838#478838 > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List > http://forums.matronics.com > <= Add some info to the Matronics Email List Wiki! > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > >




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