---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 03/28/18: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:29 AM - X-com with Garmin Speak (Todd Bartrim) 2. 05:41 AM - Re: Voltage Regulator Damage? (FLYaDIVE) 3. 05:49 AM - Re: Flap Switch (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 4. 05:56 AM - Re: Flap Switch (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 5. 06:06 AM - Re: Flap Switch (FLYaDIVE) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:29:08 AM PST US From: Todd Bartrim Subject: AeroElectric-List: X-com with Garmin Speak I have an X-com 760 and I see on their website that they are now equipped with "Garmin Speak", which will automatically select the next appropriate standby channel based on info from a compatible Garmin GPS. I recently sent the radio in for an update so it is up to date and apparently capable of this but when I inquired about how to set up this feature I was told a technician would contact me with the info. I never heard from him and several more inquiries went unanswered. This was a few months ago, so I just sent another request for info tonight, but I thought maybe someone on this list may have experience with this. Todd Bartrim C-FSTB RV9 Turbo13B ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:41:51 AM PST US From: FLYaDIVE Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Voltage Regulator Damage? Hello Art: I tried two methods of printing the schematic but neither worked. The schematic is larger than the 8.5x11 printer paper. My eyes are not as good as they use to be and reading off the screen does not give me the ability to hi-lite and make notes. >From many years of other people's the first thing I would change it the ITEM 1 Buss. The constant ON buss will bite you in the ARS (ass). At some point you WILL leave the Dome light ON and drain your battery. The constant ON for the electronic ignition, well, that you do need. Getting back to the MASTER/ALT SWITCH: YES! It is wired in correctly . BUT! The schematic does NOT show it mechanically correct. The dotted line shows the switch as both the Master and Alt being Mechanically connected ALL THE TIME. Meaning: When the Master is On the Alt is On. and you NOT having the ability to turn the Alt OFF with the Master On. I'd bet dollars to donuts you DO have separate control over the Master and Alt. SO! When you Want to or Have to separate the Alternator from the system you sure can. And... Don't worry about that garbage from ROTAX. Isn't it great having a properly designed system! Barry On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 11:37 PM, Art Zemon wrote: > Barry, > > I appreciate your thoughts but I have three separate switches: Master, > Alternator, and Backup Alternator. > For all the detail, here is my wiring diagram: https://drive.google. > com/file/d/12DhiCdTSuUNvlsmBK027yQ1mDDy5eRUl/view?usp=sharing > > Cheers, > -- Art Z. > > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 9:07 PM, FLYaDIVE wrote: > >> Art: >> >> Rotax is RATAX... Forget about IT! >> >> Now, since you are flying a Lycoming the MASTER should be a SPLIT >> MASTER/ALTERNATOR. >> Automatically with a Split Master when you shut off the Master you also >> shut off the Alternator. >> If the Alternator (ALT) is OFF you removed voltage from the Field of the >> Alternator. >> NO DAMAGE will be done to the Alternator or the ACU. >> >> Barry >> >> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 9:13 PM, Art Zemon wrote: >> >>> Folks, >>> >>> I am writing my POH, patterning it after the POH for a Vans RV-12. That >>> manual has a warning, "Do not turn off the Master switch with the >>> engine running except in an EMERGENCY situation. Running the engine >>> with the Master Switch off may damage the voltage regulator." >>> >>> I have a Lycoming motor with B&C voltage regulators, LR3C-14 >>> and SB1B-14. >>> >>> I have never seen a warning like in the RV-12. Is this something >>> Rotax-specific? Should I have a similar warning in my POH? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> -- Art Z. >>> >>> -- >>> https://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/ >>> >>> *"If I am not for myself, who is for me? And if I am only for myself, >>> what am I? And if not now, when?" Hillel* >>> >> >> > > > -- > https://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/ > > *"If I am not for myself, who is for me? And if I am only for myself, what > am I? And if not now, when?" Hillel* > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:11 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Flap Switch At 05:13 PM 3/27/2018, you wrote: >Aircraft Spruce # 11-11337 > >Sent >from the Yahoo Mail app. Get yours! > >On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 2:51 PM, Pat Hatch > wrote: ><pat_hatch@msn.com> > >Bob, perhaps you can help me find a SPDT (1-5) switch for flap >control where the bat doesn't rotate. Years ago you published a >piece on how to make a little flap lever out of a solid piece of >aluminum that goes over the toggle and gets held there by a couple >of set screws. The only ones I have found all have bats or toggles >that rotate and this is not good. Do you recall which switch it was? Thanks! Yes . . . You need a switch that with a restrained handle such as the Honeywell 2TL1-5. The Dash 5 is a 3 position that is stable in two extremes and spring loaded out of the third? Is this the action your seeking? Shop around a bit . . . they come in all $sizes$ . . . https://goo.gl/FQfTRF https://goo.gl/va48he Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:56:25 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Flap Switch At 05:13 PM 3/27/2018, you wrote: >Aircraft Spruce # 11-11337 > >Sent >from the Yahoo Mail app. Get yours! > >On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 2:51 PM, Pat Hatch > wrote: ><pat_hatch@msn.com> >Bob, perhaps you can help me find a SPDT (1-5) switch for flap >control where the bat doesn't rotate. Years ago you published a >piece on how to make a little flap lever out of a solid piece of >aluminum that goes over the toggle and gets held there by a couple >of set screws. The only ones I have found all have bats or toggles >that rotate and this is not good. Do you recall which switch it was? Thanks! Yes . . . You need a switch that with a restrained handle such as the Honeywell 2TL1-5. The Dash 5 is a 3 position that is stable in two extremes and spring loaded out of the third? Is this the action your seeking? Shop around a bit . . . they come in all $sizes$ . . . https://goo.gl/FQfTRF https://goo.gl/va48he Emacs! Found a picture of this switch with the nuts removed. You can see the end of the handle shaft. Anyone who supplies this kind of switch as a MilSpec device will probably have the same feature. Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:09 AM PST US From: FLYaDIVE Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Flap Switch Pat: If you LQQK into the switch where the 'bat' enters AND you see a rubber shield. Those switches have a dust/moisture barrier and they do not rotate. You can make the lever out of aluminum, hardwood or even use a 3D printer. If you use set-screws do a little grinding on the bat to make a flat for the set-screw to bite into. Barry On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 8:48 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III < nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> wrote: > At 05:13 PM 3/27/2018, you wrote: > > Aircraft Spruce # 11-11337 > > Sent from the Yahoo Mail app. Get yours! > > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 2:51 PM, Pat Hatch > wrote: > > Bob, perhaps you can help me find a SPDT (1-5) switch for flap control > where the bat doesn't rotate. Years ago you published a piece on how to > make a little flap lever out of a solid piece of aluminum that goes over > the toggle and gets held there by a couple of set screws. The only ones I > have found all have bats or toggles that rotate and this is not good. Do > you recall which switch it was? Thanks! > Yes . . . > > You need a switch that with a restrained > handle such as the Honeywell 2TL1-5. > > The Dash 5 is a 3 position that is stable > in two extremes and spring loaded out of the > third? Is this the action your seeking? > > Shop around a bit . . . they come in all > $sizes$ . . . > > https://goo.gl/FQfTRF > > https://goo.gl/va48he > > > Bob . . . > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message aeroelectric-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.