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1. 03:25 AM - Re: Battery cables (Ron Burnett)
2. 08:18 AM - Re: Battery cables (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
3. 08:54 AM - Re: Battery cables (Rocketman1988)
4. 09:30 AM - Re: Battery cables (Robert Reed)
5. 09:48 AM - Re: Battery cables (Charlie England)
6. 10:27 AM - Re: Battery cables (John Tipton)
7. 04:33 PM - Difference Between TNC Connectors (Art Zemon)
8. 04:54 PM - Re: Difference Between TNC Connectors (A R Goldman)
9. 07:22 PM - Re: Difference Between TNC Connectors (Charlie England)
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| Subject: | Re: Battery cables |
Art,
I have a Harbor Freight set of hydraulic squeezers that work great for that.
It has a big set of fittings for every size.
Ron Burnett
May you have the Lord's blessings today!
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> On Jul 3, 2018, at 11:00 PM, Art Zemon <art@zemon.name> wrote:
>
> I soldered mine according to the instructions here: http://www.aeroelectri
c.com/articles/big_term.pdf
> Easy and seems like I got physically sound, low resistance connections.
>
> -- Art Z.
>
>
>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 10:03 PM Rocketman1988 <Rocketman@etczone.com> wro
te:
ne.com>
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>> For those who are making their own battery cables, what is the recommende
d crimp?
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> https://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Battery cables |
At 05:24 AM 7/4/2018, you wrote:
>Art,
>I have a Harbor Freight set of hydraulic squeezers that work great
>for that. It has a big set of fittings for every size.
>
>Ron Burnett
>
Take a proposed 4 or 2 awg terminal with
you when you go crimp-tool shopping at HF.
I purchased one a few years ago where
the numbers stamped on the die-sets had
no practical relationship to reality.
The actual hex-holes were way to small for
the numbers in evidence.
Don't know if that's changed/improved
but it's worth checking.
When the HF hydraulic tool proved
inadequate to the job, I soldered the
terminals on . . .
Works good, lasts a long time . . .
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Battery cables |
Bob,
That is exactly why I asked the question.
It seems as if the HF dies are the WIRE size, not the wire+connector. This makes
the dies FAR too small. I have had good luck with the HF crimper on 8 and
4 AWG wire by using dies that are two sizes larger, i.e. us the #4 die on #8 wire
and a #2 die on #4 wire. The crimps look as they should according to the
Temco website. I did a pull test on one of the #4 cables...I clamped it in a
vise an hung 270 lb from it with no movement...
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=481405#481405
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| Subject: | Re: Battery cables |
Agreed that the HF dies were not as indicated, especially if using welding c
ables but ignored the indicated numbers and used the die that gave the crimp
ed connection that I needed.
Bob Reed
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> On Jul 4, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <nuckolls.bob@aeroele
ctric.com> wrote:
>
> At 05:24 AM 7/4/2018, you wrote:
>> Art,
>> I have a Harbor Freight set of hydraulic squeezers that work great for th
at. It has a big set of fittings for every size.
>>
>> Ron Burnett
>>
>
> Take a proposed 4 or 2 awg terminal with
> you when you go crimp-tool shopping at HF.
> I purchased one a few years ago where
> the numbers stamped on the die-sets had
> no practical relationship to reality.
> The actual hex-holes were way to small for
> the numbers in evidence.
>
> Don't know if that's changed/improved
> but it's worth checking.
>
> When the HF hydraulic tool proved
> inadequate to the job, I soldered the
> terminals on . . .
>
> Works good, lasts a long time . . .
>
>
> Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Battery cables |
On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 10:17 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <
nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> wrote:
> At 05:24 AM 7/4/2018, you wrote:
>
> Art,
> I have a Harbor Freight set of hydraulic squeezers that work great for
> that. It has a big set of fittings for every size.
>
> Ron Burnett
>
>
> Take a proposed 4 or 2 awg terminal with
> you when you go crimp-tool shopping at HF.
> I purchased one a few years ago where
> the numbers stamped on the die-sets had
> no practical relationship to reality.
> The actual hex-holes were way to small for
> the numbers in evidence.
>
> Don't know if that's changed/improved
> but it's worth checking.
>
> When the HF hydraulic tool proved
> inadequate to the job, I soldered the
> terminals on . . .
>
> Works good, lasts a long time . . .
>
>
> Bob . . .
>
I recently bought a similar (might be the same) hydraulic crimper from Jet
(not the Jet Tools people; this is just a reseller of far-East stuff).
https://jet.com/product/10-Ton-Hydraulic-Wire-Battery-Cable-Lug-Terminal-Crimper-Crimping-Tool-9-Dies/044de210e0e54490b3104f2933a8c4e9
I'd suggest trying this:
https://www.andersonpower.com/_global-assets/downloads/pdf/conversion.pdf
or do a search for 'metric to AWG conversion table'.
Mine makes not perfect looking, but quite serviceable crimps using this
type of conversion for the numbers stamped on the dies.
Charlie
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| Subject: | Re: Battery cables |
Not so much as 'no practical relationship to reality' more of 'no practical r
elationship to AWG', I think the numbers relate to square mm or something li
ke that, there is a conversion guide somewhere, I'm sure it was put on here a
couple of years ago
John
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> On 4 Jul 2018, at 5:30 pm, Robert Reed <robertr237@att.net> wrote:
>
> Agreed that the HF dies were not as indicated, especially if using welding
cables but ignored the indicated numbers and used the die that gave the cri
mped connection that I needed.
>
> Bob Reed
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 4, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <nuckolls.bob@aeroel
ectric.com> wrote:
>>
>> At 05:24 AM 7/4/2018, you wrote:
>>> Art,
>>> I have a Harbor Freight set of hydraulic squeezers that work great for t
hat. It has a big set of fittings for every size.
>>>
>>> Ron Burnett
>>>
>>
>> Take a proposed 4 or 2 awg terminal with
>> you when you go crimp-tool shopping at HF.
>> I purchased one a few years ago where
>> the numbers stamped on the die-sets had
>> no practical relationship to reality.
>> The actual hex-holes were way to small for
>> the numbers in evidence.
>>
>> Don't know if that's changed/improved
>> but it's worth checking.
>>
>> When the HF hydraulic tool proved
>> inadequate to the job, I soldered the
>> terminals on . . .
>>
>> Works good, lasts a long time . . .
>>
>>
>> Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Difference Between TNC Connectors |
Folks,
I just discovered that Aircraft Spruce has much less expensive TNC
connectors than I had previously purchased... and I need to buy one more so
I want to know if I can use the cheap one. Are these equivalent, other than
one being weather sealed?
cheap: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/amphenol11-15370.php
expensive: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/edmo2255556.php
Thanks,
-- Art Z.
--
https://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/
*"We do not see the world as it is. We see the world as we are."*
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| Subject: | Re: Difference Between TNC Connectors |
Art try Digikey
Tncs are quite cheap and are availble from major manufacturers
Digikey.com
Rich
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> On Jul 4, 2018, at 6:32 PM, Art Zemon <art@zemon.name> wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> I just discovered that Aircraft Spruce has much less expensive TNC connect
ors than I had previously purchased... and I need to buy one more so I want t
o know if I can use the cheap one. Are these equivalent, other than one bein
g weather sealed?
>
> cheap: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/amphenol11-15370.php
>
> expensive: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/edmo2255556.php
>
> Thanks,
> -- Art Z.
>
> --
> https://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/
>
> "We do not see the world as it is. We see the world as we are."
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| Subject: | Re: Difference Between TNC Connectors |
On 7/4/2018 6:32 PM, Art Zemon wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I just discovered that Aircraft Spruce has much less expensive TNC
> connectors than I had previously purchased... and I need to buy one
> more so I want to know if I can use the cheap one. Are these
> equivalent, other than one being weather sealed?
>
> cheap: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/amphenol11-15370.php
>
> expensive: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/edmo2255556.php
>
> Thanks,
> -- Art Z.
>
> --
> https://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/
>
> /"We do not see the world as it is. We see the world as we are."/
Check the specs on which cables each fits.
Lots of other options out there, though; for instance:
https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Amphenol-RF/122372?qs=8wOOb4nECAsnC3SM1sAtlw%3d%3d
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