---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 07/04/18: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:25 AM - Re: Battery cables (Ron Burnett) 2. 08:18 AM - Re: Battery cables (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 3. 08:54 AM - Re: Battery cables (Rocketman1988) 4. 09:30 AM - Re: Battery cables (Robert Reed) 5. 09:48 AM - Re: Battery cables (Charlie England) 6. 10:27 AM - Re: Battery cables (John Tipton) 7. 04:33 PM - Difference Between TNC Connectors (Art Zemon) 8. 04:54 PM - Re: Difference Between TNC Connectors (A R Goldman) 9. 07:22 PM - Re: Difference Between TNC Connectors (Charlie England) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:25:16 AM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Battery cables From: Ron Burnett Art, I have a Harbor Freight set of hydraulic squeezers that work great for that. It has a big set of fittings for every size. Ron Burnett May you have the Lord's blessings today! Sent from my iPad > On Jul 3, 2018, at 11:00 PM, Art Zemon wrote: > > I soldered mine according to the instructions here: http://www.aeroelectri c.com/articles/big_term.pdf > Easy and seems like I got physically sound, low resistance connections. > > -- Art Z. > > >> On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 10:03 PM Rocketman1988 wro te: ne.com> >> >> For those who are making their own battery cables, what is the recommende d crimp? > > > -- > https://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/ > > "We do not see the world as it is. We see the world as we are." ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:18:26 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Battery cables At 05:24 AM 7/4/2018, you wrote: >Art, >I have a Harbor Freight set of hydraulic squeezers that work great >for that. It has a big set of fittings for every size. > >Ron Burnett > Take a proposed 4 or 2 awg terminal with you when you go crimp-tool shopping at HF. I purchased one a few years ago where the numbers stamped on the die-sets had no practical relationship to reality. The actual hex-holes were way to small for the numbers in evidence. Don't know if that's changed/improved but it's worth checking. When the HF hydraulic tool proved inadequate to the job, I soldered the terminals on . . . Works good, lasts a long time . . . Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:54:35 AM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Battery cables From: "Rocketman1988" Bob, That is exactly why I asked the question. It seems as if the HF dies are the WIRE size, not the wire+connector. This makes the dies FAR too small. I have had good luck with the HF crimper on 8 and 4 AWG wire by using dies that are two sizes larger, i.e. us the #4 die on #8 wire and a #2 die on #4 wire. The crimps look as they should according to the Temco website. I did a pull test on one of the #4 cables...I clamped it in a vise an hung 270 lb from it with no movement... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=481405#481405 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:30:50 AM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Battery cables From: Robert Reed Agreed that the HF dies were not as indicated, especially if using welding c ables but ignored the indicated numbers and used the die that gave the crimp ed connection that I needed. Bob Reed Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote: > > At 05:24 AM 7/4/2018, you wrote: >> Art, >> I have a Harbor Freight set of hydraulic squeezers that work great for th at. It has a big set of fittings for every size. >> >> Ron Burnett >> > > Take a proposed 4 or 2 awg terminal with > you when you go crimp-tool shopping at HF. > I purchased one a few years ago where > the numbers stamped on the die-sets had > no practical relationship to reality. > The actual hex-holes were way to small for > the numbers in evidence. > > Don't know if that's changed/improved > but it's worth checking. > > When the HF hydraulic tool proved > inadequate to the job, I soldered the > terminals on . . . > > Works good, lasts a long time . . . > > > Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:48:42 AM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Battery cables On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 10:17 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III < nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> wrote: > At 05:24 AM 7/4/2018, you wrote: > > Art, > I have a Harbor Freight set of hydraulic squeezers that work great for > that. It has a big set of fittings for every size. > > Ron Burnett > > > Take a proposed 4 or 2 awg terminal with > you when you go crimp-tool shopping at HF. > I purchased one a few years ago where > the numbers stamped on the die-sets had > no practical relationship to reality. > The actual hex-holes were way to small for > the numbers in evidence. > > Don't know if that's changed/improved > but it's worth checking. > > When the HF hydraulic tool proved > inadequate to the job, I soldered the > terminals on . . . > > Works good, lasts a long time . . . > > > Bob . . . > I recently bought a similar (might be the same) hydraulic crimper from Jet (not the Jet Tools people; this is just a reseller of far-East stuff). https://jet.com/product/10-Ton-Hydraulic-Wire-Battery-Cable-Lug-Terminal-Crimper-Crimping-Tool-9-Dies/044de210e0e54490b3104f2933a8c4e9 I'd suggest trying this: https://www.andersonpower.com/_global-assets/downloads/pdf/conversion.pdf or do a search for 'metric to AWG conversion table'. Mine makes not perfect looking, but quite serviceable crimps using this type of conversion for the numbers stamped on the dies. Charlie ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:27:51 AM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Battery cables From: John Tipton Not so much as 'no practical relationship to reality' more of 'no practical r elationship to AWG', I think the numbers relate to square mm or something li ke that, there is a conversion guide somewhere, I'm sure it was put on here a couple of years ago John Sent from my iPad ----x--O--x---- > On 4 Jul 2018, at 5:30 pm, Robert Reed wrote: > > Agreed that the HF dies were not as indicated, especially if using welding cables but ignored the indicated numbers and used the die that gave the cri mped connection that I needed. > > Bob Reed > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 4, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote: >> >> At 05:24 AM 7/4/2018, you wrote: >>> Art, >>> I have a Harbor Freight set of hydraulic squeezers that work great for t hat. It has a big set of fittings for every size. >>> >>> Ron Burnett >>> >> >> Take a proposed 4 or 2 awg terminal with >> you when you go crimp-tool shopping at HF. >> I purchased one a few years ago where >> the numbers stamped on the die-sets had >> no practical relationship to reality. >> The actual hex-holes were way to small for >> the numbers in evidence. >> >> Don't know if that's changed/improved >> but it's worth checking. >> >> When the HF hydraulic tool proved >> inadequate to the job, I soldered the >> terminals on . . . >> >> Works good, lasts a long time . . . >> >> >> Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:33:32 PM PST US From: Art Zemon Subject: AeroElectric-List: Difference Between TNC Connectors Folks, I just discovered that Aircraft Spruce has much less expensive TNC connectors than I had previously purchased... and I need to buy one more so I want to know if I can use the cheap one. Are these equivalent, other than one being weather sealed? cheap: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/amphenol11-15370.php expensive: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/edmo2255556.php Thanks, -- Art Z. -- https://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/ *"We do not see the world as it is. We see the world as we are."* ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:54:15 PM PST US From: A R Goldman Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Difference Between TNC Connectors Art try Digikey Tncs are quite cheap and are availble from major manufacturers Digikey.com Rich Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2018, at 6:32 PM, Art Zemon wrote: > > Folks, > > I just discovered that Aircraft Spruce has much less expensive TNC connect ors than I had previously purchased... and I need to buy one more so I want t o know if I can use the cheap one. Are these equivalent, other than one bein g weather sealed? > > cheap: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/amphenol11-15370.php > > expensive: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/edmo2255556.php > > Thanks, > -- Art Z. > > -- > https://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/ > > "We do not see the world as it is. We see the world as we are." ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:22:03 PM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Difference Between TNC Connectors From: Charlie England On 7/4/2018 6:32 PM, Art Zemon wrote: > Folks, > > I just discovered that Aircraft Spruce has much less expensive TNC > connectors than I had previously purchased... and I need to buy one > more so I want to know if I can use the cheap one. Are these > equivalent, other than one being weather sealed? > > cheap: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/amphenol11-15370.php > > expensive: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/edmo2255556.php > > Thanks, > -- Art Z. > > -- > https://CheerfulCurmudgeon.com/ > > /"We do not see the world as it is. We see the world as we are."/ Check the specs on which cables each fits. Lots of other options out there, though; for instance: https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Amphenol-RF/122372?qs=8wOOb4nECAsnC3SM1sAtlw%3d%3d --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message aeroelectric-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.