---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 01/28/19: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:44 AM - Re: Re: Garmin Aera660 powered from aircraft bus (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 2. 08:44 AM - Re: Alternator Lead Wiring Component? (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 3. 12:03 PM - Re: Re: Battery (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 4. 01:32 PM - Re: Re: Battery (Ernest Christley) 5. 02:18 PM - Re: Re: Battery (Ken Ryan) 6. 07:08 PM - Re: Alternator Lead Wiring Component? (farmrjohn) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:44:19 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Garmin Aera660 powered from aircraft bus At 04:46 PM 1/26/2019, you wrote: > >Hi Bob > >I've managed to get hold of a Garmin GPS lead, and the plug that >goes into the unit has four pins, two are dormant, the other two are >12v + & -, the cigar plug once dismantled has indeed a glass fuse >link, so all good for 12v fused to the aircraft bus. > >Which does raise one other question, the fuse looks like 1/4amp, how >do I fuse this (and other items like 'steam gauge lighting') which >have only light gauge wires, the smallest fuse available for the bus is 1amp 1A will be fine Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:44:24 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Alternator Lead Wiring Component? At 02:46 PM 1/26/2019, you wrote: > >I'm trying to sort the wiring layout on my newly acquired plane. It >has a TCM 60 alternator and Zeftronics 15100 regulator which has (I) >(A) (S) (F) terminals. The (S) terminal is not being used. The >alternator has a single Field terminal and a Bus terminal. There >are two wires coming off the Bus terminal, one to the bus, and the >other that goes through what looks like either a condensor or >capacitor then to the (A) terminal on the regulator. The regulator >is powered via the cockpit switch, noise suppressor, then the (I) >terminal. My question is what is the condensor/capacitor component, >and what does it do? > > That's a 'noise filter' which is probably not necessary. Those were electrically effective only on noise emissions in the low Loran/ADF/Broadcast frequencies. Assuming your alternator DOES make some noise, it's unlikely to be a factor with modern avionics. Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:03:27 PM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Battery > >eBay thing 183558004137 > >It would appear that this specific one works >with a sun-based contribution of 6 to 18 > >volts. There are unquestionably some shabby >reasonable choices accessible for the > >Do-It-Yourselfer.=EF=BD Much more are accessible for Lithium batteries. These do look intereseting . . . I've got some on order. Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:32:57 PM PST US From: Ernest Christley Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Battery Consider the following in conjunction with the charge controller.=C2- I' m limited to day-VFR, and my bladder keeps my flying legs down to 2 hours. =C2- My running current draw is somewhere down around 10 amps.=C2- With a couple of these plastered to the top of my wings, and a battery appropri ately sized for a couple hours of runtime, would I EVER run out of electron s before fuel?=C2- At around $110, these would definitely be cheaper than a mechanical electron pusher.=C2- Without relays and crowbars, et. al., I would expect the wiring to be MUCH simpler.=C2- The weight is quoted as "less than 5 lbs", so lighter than all but the smallest of generators (?). This would be a major departure from years of lessons learned in the aircra ft community, but. . . 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I've got =C2- some on order. =C2- Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:18:28 PM PST US From: Ken Ryan Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Battery Keep in mind that output is highly dependent upon sun angle (time of year, time of day) and cloud cover. On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 12:37 PM Ernest Christley wrote: > Consider the following in conjunction with the charge controller. I'm > limited to day-VFR, and my bladder keeps my flying legs down to 2 hours. > My running current draw is somewhere down around 10 amps. With a couple of > these plastered to the top of my wings, and a battery appropriately sized > for a couple hours of runtime, would I EVER run out of electrons before > fuel? At around $110, these would definitely be cheaper than a mechanica l > electron pusher. Without relays and crowbars, et. al., I would expect th e > wiring to be MUCH simpler. The weight is quoted as "less than 5 lbs", so > lighter than all but the smallest of generators (?). > > This would be a major departure from years of lessons learned in the > aircraft community, but. . . > > > WindyNation 100 Watt 12V Flexible Solar Panel with Monocrystalline Solar > Cells | eBay > > > $114.99 > WindyNation 100 Watt 12V Flexible Solar Panel with Monocrystalline Solar. .. > > WindyNation 1 00Watt (12 volt) Flexible Monocyrstalline Solar Panel with > Monocrystalline Solar Cells. WindyNatio... > > > > > On Monday, January 28, 2019, 3:05:17 PM EST, Robert L. Nuckolls, III < > nuckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> wrote: > > > eBay thing 183558004137 > > It would appear that this specific one works with a sun-based contributio n > of 6 to 18 > > volts. There are unquestionably some shabby reasonable choices accessible > for the > > Do-It-Yourselfer.=C3=AF=C2=C2=BD Much more are accessible for Lithium batteries. > > > These do look intereseting . . . I've got > some on order. > > > Bob . . . > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:08:59 PM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Alternator Lead Wiring Component? From: "farmrjohn" Thanks for the information. There is also a noise filter on the lead from the control switch to the (I) terminal on the regulator. They must not do any harm since the radio is clear. I'll just leave well enough alone. 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