AeroElectric-List Digest Archive

Tue 01/29/19


Total Messages Posted: 6



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 07:10 AM - Connectors (John M Tipton)
     2. 08:01 AM - Re: Connectors (Carlos Trigo)
     3. 08:28 AM - Re: Re: Battery (Ernest Christley)
     4. 09:58 AM - Charging System Capacitors (Paul Millner)
     5. 02:27 PM - Re: Connectors (Peter Pengilly)
     6. 04:31 PM - BendixKing KX-155 repair help (jdubner)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:10:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Connectors
    From: "John M Tipton" <john@tiptonuk.eu>
    Hi Guys I've been given a batch of these connectors, does anyone know any details, do they get squeezed (the metal connector is quit strong, but if so what squeezer is used) or they for soldering - the wire size is about 20/22awg. Regards John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487346#487346 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/thumbnail_img_1174_152.jpg


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    Time: 08:01:42 AM PST US
    From: Carlos Trigo <trigo@mail.telepac.pt>
    Subject: Re: Connectors
    John Those are not connectors. The upper ones are crimping butt splicers, to join 2 wires by crimping them. The lower ones are heat-shrink splicers, to join wires by inserting them inside and apply heat till they shrink and hold the wires Regards Carlos Enviado do meu iPhone No dia 29/01/2019, s 15:09, John M Tipton <john@tiptonuk.eu> escreveu: > > Hi Guys > > I've been given a batch of these connectors, does anyone know any details, do they get squeezed (the metal connector is quit strong, but if so what squeezer is used) or they for soldering - the wire size is about 20/22awg. > > Regards > > John > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487346#487346 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/thumbnail_img_1174_152.jpg > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:28:07 AM PST US
    From: Ernest Christley <echristley@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Battery
    Like I said, our current systems are built on a lifetime of experience.=C2 - This is new technology that was not even thought of when many of the sy stems we take for granted were designed.=C2- Taking advantage of them saf ely will require extensive analysis of all costs vs benefits. One question that comes to mind is, "Is it acceptable to manage battery lif e in the same way we manage fuel in the tank?" On Monday, January 28, 2019, 5:19:33 PM EST, Ken Ryan <keninalaska@gmai l.com> wrote: Keep in mind that output is highly dependent upon sun angle (time of year, time of day) and cloud cover. On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 12:37 PM Ernest Christley <echristley@att.net> wrot e: Consider the following in conjunction with the charge controller.=C2- I' m limited to day-VFR, and my bladder keeps my flying legs down to 2 hours. =C2- My running current draw is somewhere down around 10 amps.=C2- With a couple of these plastered to the top of my wings, and a battery appropri ately sized for a couple hours of runtime, would I EVER run out of electron s before fuel?=C2- At around $110, these would definitely be cheaper than a mechanical electron pusher.=C2- Without relays and crowbars, et. al., I would expect the wiring to be MUCH simpler.=C2- The weight is quoted as "less than 5 lbs", so lighter than all but the smallest of generators (?). This would be a major departure from years of lessons learned in the aircra ft community, but. . . WindyNation 100 Watt 12V Flexible Solar Panel with Monocrystalline Solar Ce lls | eBay | | | | $114.99 | | | | | | | WindyNation 100 Watt 12V Flexible Solar Panel with Monocrystalline Solar... WindyNation 1 00Watt (12 volt) Flexible Monocyrstalline Solar Panel with Mo nocrystalline Solar Cells. WindyNatio... | | | On Monday, January 28, 2019, 3:05:17 PM EST, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <n uckolls.bob@aeroelectric.com> wrote: eBay thing 183558004137 It would appear that this specific one works with a sun-basedcontribution o f 6 to 18 volts. There are unquestionably some shabby reasonable choices accessiblefo r the Do-It-Yourselfer.=C3=AF=C2=C2=BD Much more are accessible for Lithiumbat teries. =C2- These do look intereseting . . . I've got =C2- some on order. =C2- Bob . . .


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    Time: 09:58:16 AM PST US
    From: Paul Millner <millner@me.com>
    Subject: Charging System Capacitors
    Hi Bob et al. My '76 Cessna Cardinal has three capacitors in the charging system. I'm wondering if all of these are still considered part of theconventional wisdom, or how that has evolved over time. 1) There's an alternator output capacitor on the back of the alternator, such as this from Aircraft Spruce: https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/lsAlternatorfilter.php?clickkey=21026 That seems harmless enough. 2) There's a capacitor across the overvoltage relay sensor, on the regulator INPUT line, between the 5 amp field circuit breaker and the alternator half of the master switch. Some Cardinal folks have reported removing that capacitor, in conjunction with removing the OV relay in favor of a regulator that has integral OV protection, increases the likelihood of nuisance OV trips of the regulator. 3) There's a capacitor on the regulator OUTPUT to the field terminal of the alternator, mounted on the firewall in a metal box. I'm not sure these regulator-field-output filter capacitors are now considered good practice. Here's some John Schwaner tips on charging system filtering. https://www.avweb.com/news/maint/182896-1.html What's the current wisdom on these three capacitors? They occasionally explode for a variety of capacitor-deterioration reasons. Paul


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    Time: 02:27:34 PM PST US
    From: "Peter Pengilly" <Peter@sportingaero.com>
    Subject: Connectors
    John, They are a type of butt splice. See RS part no 712-2359 or TE Connectivity 6-1195131-3. If the stripes are red they are for 22 to 20awg (or possibly 18awg) wire. The heat shrink goes over one of the wires, then crimp on the metal part to each wire. An open side crimper is required, such as https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/products/4445693/, but they can be expensive... They are smaller diameter than the conventional PIDG butt splice. Peter -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com <owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com> On Behalf Of John M Tipton Sent: 29 January 2019 15:10 Subject: AeroElectric-List: Connectors --> <john@tiptonuk.eu> Hi Guys I've been given a batch of these connectors, does anyone know any details, do they get squeezed (the metal connector is quit strong, but if so what squeezer is used) or they for soldering - the wire size is about 20/22awg. Regards John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487346#487346 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/thumbnail_img_1174_152.jpg


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    Time: 04:31:01 PM PST US
    Subject: BendixKing KX-155 repair help
    From: "jdubner" <jdubner@yahoo.com>
    My ancient KX-155 quit suddenly and it's not just the display -- the unit went totally dead while in use. Opening it up I found a blown 10A fuse but replacing it did no good. The unit tries to draw enough current to blow a replacement fuse (but I'm limiting the input current to prevent that). The four large electrolytic capacitors look good (not physically puffed out) and there's no sign of a smoked component. IMO it's not worth putting more than $100 into it so taking it to an avionics shop is not an attractive option. But perhaps I can repair it myself assuming it doesn't need a part made of Unobtanium (like the display). I have a connector wiring diagram but no schematic or service manual. So my question is where do I go from here? Has anyone on this forum poked around in a KX-155 and can offer some suggestions? Thanks, Joe, Independence, OR -------- RV-8A Independence, OR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487358#487358




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